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Sept 12, 2006 3:45:18 GMT -5
Post by -Lithium- on Sept 12, 2006 3:45:18 GMT -5
...do some people hate on womens wrestling?
Sometimes like with Trish/Mickie at Wrestlemania 22 (besides Edge/Foley) the womens match can be the best match on the card...
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Sept 12, 2006 3:48:32 GMT -5
Post by nottombosley on Sept 12, 2006 3:48:32 GMT -5
Because for every Trish vs. Mickie there are 17 Dawn Marie vs. Torrie Wilson's. I remember Trish and Victoria putting on some damn good matches and thinking Bull Nakano was great in the mid-90's, but bad women's wrestling has generally always far outweighed the good. EDIT: Forgot about Molly!!
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Sept 12, 2006 3:58:30 GMT -5
Post by Timmy8271 on Sept 12, 2006 3:58:30 GMT -5
Cause women's wrestling is boring unless it's in japan. I can tolerate it in mexico but i just watch WWE women's wrestling for the looks. And now that trish is gone, who's next.
I just watched the Jaguar vs Lioness match from 85ish and was amazed. You will never see that kind of match in WWE, Shimmer or TNA.
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Sept 12, 2006 4:01:35 GMT -5
Post by -Lithium- on Sept 12, 2006 4:01:35 GMT -5
Cause women's wrestling is boring unless it's in japan. See those are the kinda coments are talking about. Not saying womens wrestling can be bad but not all of it is (in America)...
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Sept 12, 2006 4:06:21 GMT -5
Post by THE Dinobot on Sept 12, 2006 4:06:21 GMT -5
I'm just surprised anything could think Mickie James of all people could have a good match. Not even with someone like VIctoria or Molly could that happen.
As far as in the States goes, just check out SHIMMER for some outstanding ladies wrestling. It'll totally change anyone's opinion on how to look at it.
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Sept 12, 2006 4:31:34 GMT -5
Post by Powder/The Professor on Sept 12, 2006 4:31:34 GMT -5
Its filler. While I do respect the talent to correctly do moves without killing yourself and others, I just dont like it. I prefer "regular/normal" wrestling. I never liked it though.
"Women, ruined the sport..........thats what happened to Wrestling, Man" - Sinbad - Necassary Roughness.
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Sept 12, 2006 10:27:48 GMT -5
Post by American Nightmare on Sept 12, 2006 10:27:48 GMT -5
SHIMMER, thats all i have to say
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bagsley
Samurai Cop
Demolition Bear is da king of Ruthless.
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Sept 12, 2006 11:19:50 GMT -5
Post by bagsley on Sept 12, 2006 11:19:50 GMT -5
Things like the DIVA search kill it for me
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Sept 12, 2006 11:21:12 GMT -5
Post by Spankymac is sick of the swiss on Sept 12, 2006 11:21:12 GMT -5
As long as Daizee Haze and LuFisto are still active, I will never hate women's wrestling. However, crap like Torrie Wilson vs. Random diva no. 314 does stretch my patience a little.
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therob
Hank Scorpio
Mcginley to Slim's O'neil
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Sept 12, 2006 11:21:37 GMT -5
Post by therob on Sept 12, 2006 11:21:37 GMT -5
Japanese women wrestling is great. american womens wrestling is so meh.
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Sept 12, 2006 12:44:52 GMT -5
Post by 'Smart' Mark Poindexter on Sept 12, 2006 12:44:52 GMT -5
I don't hate on Women's wrestling...I hate on DIVA wrestling.
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Sept 12, 2006 13:14:36 GMT -5
Post by emoney3265 on Sept 12, 2006 13:14:36 GMT -5
It's only about the T&A... for WWE. You can have good looking women wrestling like Traci and Mickie and Gail Kim... and to some extent, Lita. The management's need to have real wrestlers who care about it. Not these little hoes now-a-days. They don't allow Mickie to do much cuz everyone else sucks. I like it when they actually wrestle instead of having women win DIVA Search's and Back to School Paddle on a Pole matches.
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Sept 12, 2006 13:25:03 GMT -5
Post by Deacon Kevorkian on Sept 12, 2006 13:25:03 GMT -5
Cause women's wrestling is boring unless it's in japan. Kudo vs. Toyoda if anyone needs proof of that.
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Sept 12, 2006 13:31:07 GMT -5
Post by HMARK Center on Sept 12, 2006 13:31:07 GMT -5
No need to go into detail about women's wrestling in Japan; some of the greatest matches in Japanese history (or wrestling history, for that matter) were women's matches.
In America, SHIMMER is basically the only real hope I see for it being taken any bit seriously. The limited SHIMMER stuff I've seen (mostly the showcases they put on at some ROH shows) has been very, very good. It's almost strange, after all these years of being conditioned to associate women's wrestling with gratuitous sexual stuff, to actually see two women absolutely wail on each other with stiff chops and well-done submission holds.
It does seem like it's gaining some steam, too, so hopefully that leads to more good stuff (give ROH credit, they do a fine job of promoting their "little brother/sister" promotions (FIP and SHIMMER) when they get the chance to).
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Hank Scorpio
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Sept 12, 2006 14:53:49 GMT -5
Post by BHB on Sept 12, 2006 14:53:49 GMT -5
Because i almost always prefer to watch men's wrestling over women's wrestling, unless it's a Khali match.
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Sept 12, 2006 15:04:37 GMT -5
Post by Ultimo Chocula on Sept 12, 2006 15:04:37 GMT -5
I don't hate on Women's wrestling...I hate on DIVA wrestling. second.
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The Good Ol' Days
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Sept 12, 2006 16:14:29 GMT -5
Post by Hiroshi Hase on Sept 12, 2006 16:14:29 GMT -5
Mostly because of the T&A factor.
I could never see myself having more interest in a Trish/Lita feud than a Angle/RVD feud. As someone mentioned, it's always filler.
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Sept 12, 2006 16:23:07 GMT -5
Post by Two-Time Champ Darth Violence on Sept 12, 2006 16:23:07 GMT -5
The problem is that women's wrestling in WWE (and all major US promotions) has been treated like a joke for so long, that no one can take it seriously. It's not just WWE either...WCW had Madusa and Rhonda Singh doing plenty of stupid stuff brfore the promotion folded. Then there was GLOW, WEW, etc.
SHIMMER is a glimmer of hope, but I think that women's wrestling in the US is always going to be a tough sell. It doesn't have to be that way, but you're fighting 20 years worth of baggage to succeed.
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Samurai Cop
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Sept 12, 2006 16:32:04 GMT -5
Post by Bedlam LadyD on Sept 12, 2006 16:32:04 GMT -5
I don't hate on Women's wrestling...I hate on DIVA wrestling. second. Third. I love watching some of the Women's matches outside of the WWE, and I loved quite a lot of them in the WWE when the matches were actually between wrestling females, as opposed to people like Torrie Wilson. I'll say that Candice is a lil' better then before, she's improving better then Ashley at least, but I still hate many of the matches the 'E has. I can't stand those damned T & A matches, nor the stupid beauty contests. I absolutely detest the DivaSearch simply because it is EyeCandy for untalented bimbos who just want some money. Go watch some of the J-Women Wrestlers. They'll kick your ass without breaking a sweat.
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Sept 12, 2006 16:32:54 GMT -5
Post by samachine on Sept 12, 2006 16:32:54 GMT -5
Because most women who aren't from Japan suck at wrestling.
Then because of the low bar the girls that are <i>decent</i> get the hell overrated out of them. Like Trish Stratus, Allison Danger, Lacey, etc.
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