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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 21:00:17 GMT -5
This is a transcript from the Undisputed Wrestling Show.
Cornette on TNA Director of Creative Writing David Lagana: "It's like they are on f---ing acid. I know Dave Lagana, I like Dave Lagana, would never let him close to the f---ing book. He doesn't know how to book wrestling because the only experience he had was booking 'sports entertainment.'"
Cornette on TNA Vice President of Television Production and Director of Talent Relations John Gaburick: "The f---ing goof they hired to be the head of their creative, the Big John character (Gaburick), was an out of work friend of Kevin Dunn's who gave a pity job to to produce Tough Enough. He's never booked a f---ing fart after a dinner at Taco Bell."
Cornette on TNA Creative Writer Matt Conway: "Matt Conway is the guy who Dixie (Carter) put on the creative team when it was Jeff (Jarrett) and Dutch (Mantel) and (Vince) Russo, I'm sorry I threw up a little in my mouth, because they weren't telling her what was going on. So she took some stooge who worked in the office, he's a fine kid, but he don't know shit from apple butter about how to f---ing book wrestling. She put him on the creative team so he could stooge to her about what they were talking about behind her back."
Cornette on TNA Ring Announcer and member of creative team Christy Hemme: "I can't say this without laughing out loud! They just put Christy Hemme on the f---ing booking team! What the f---, she couldn't book Lassie at a pet shop! She's a nice girl, but what the f---!"
Cornette on the state of wrestling today: "If I stop to dwell on the state of wrestling today, it was literally making me an insane person. That is why I just ignore it for the most part. If you care about the business and if you want to see the business succeed, the things that people do that are the people who are in charge will drive you insane."
His reaction to him finding out that Christy was on the team must have been priceless.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 21:04:17 GMT -5
Can't say that I disagree with much of what Cornette says, my problem is that he sucks at booking as well, IMO.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Jul 2, 2014 21:07:36 GMT -5
Pot meet Kettle
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 2, 2014 21:13:58 GMT -5
This might have carried more weight with me if we didn't know he was the douche who let Colt slip between his fingers, and treated Steen and Generico rather shittily. He's frankly a dinosaur.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 21:17:14 GMT -5
The obviously cure for TNA's woes is to hire the Headbangers.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jul 2, 2014 21:24:49 GMT -5
I love hearing Cornette talk old school stuff, his knowledge is second to none, but when it comes to modern wrestling I wish he'd shut up. Actually, I wish someone would have the balls to have him book 6 months or so of modern TNA, put up or shut up. Kayfabe Commentaries, Highspots, or someone that isn't the kid diddler if you're seeing this, give him 2012 or preferably 2013 and let's see what he can do because if his ROH run is any indication, I think I'd rather have Russo.
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Post by Racksman on Jul 2, 2014 21:28:11 GMT -5
I am by no means a TNA fan currently, but stop giving this asshole any sort of limelight. He's never been a good booker. SMW sucked and he almost killed Ring of Honor. He's just as bad if not worse in certain aspects than Russo.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jul 2, 2014 21:33:54 GMT -5
Listened to that interview, he still holds a grudge against Santino because of his firing. From what I have heard from others that were there, Cornette is one of the only few who still feels he was in the right for doing what he did.
The guy had a great mind.........in the past, but he has ZERO idea how to run wrestling today and how to act professionally because back in the day, he could be a backstage bully, book shows, and get away with it.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 2, 2014 21:52:18 GMT -5
Can't say that I disagree with much of what Cornette says, my problem is that he sucks at booking as well, IMO. It's not so much that as the fact that if it happened pre-1986, Corny ain't interested.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 21:54:08 GMT -5
It puzzles me a bit how everyone was automatically "Christy is bound to suck at this job!" Like, jeez, give her a chance. Why is it that she automatically is going to be bad at it?
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Post by bob on Jul 2, 2014 21:54:26 GMT -5
this could be sour grapes because he was fired for threatening to kill Russo
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Post by thegame415 on Jul 2, 2014 21:55:25 GMT -5
The same brand of entertainment that's C show was getting higher ratings than an A show.
Can people please stop the sports entertainment rants and realize that's what makes money? Not saying you have to agree with it, or even like it.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Jul 2, 2014 21:55:41 GMT -5
Well he not wrong on this matter but his style isn't any better. Jim is a great personality and a fun guy to listen too but he too old for book current generation of wrestlers. That just the reality of it all. It's like he knows what wrestling should be but he only knows how to book it as if it was the 80's. The same brand of entertainment that's C show was getting higher ratings than an A show. Can people please stop the sports entertainment rants and realize that's what makes money? Not saying you have to agree with it, or even like it. It doesn't always make money. TNA problem is they are booking like the WWE and Fans want something different. They want a choice. Just because WWE makes a ton of money doesn't mean ALL wrestling needs to be like them to be successful and that what all wrestling fans want. I mean if everyone was like the WWE it would be like the only restaurant in the world is McDonald's. Not everyone wants that and people like the idea of there's other things. What wrestling needs is a place that is more adult related. WWE can have the PG and the kids and someone else can target the older people. Fans want options. That what made the Monday night wars great because we had a choice and WCW and WWE wasn't the same. They where not booking there angles the SAME way. TNA is so much like WWE it's sad.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jul 2, 2014 22:01:05 GMT -5
This might have carried more weight with me if we didn't know he was the douche who let Colt slip between his fingers, and treated Steen and Generico rather shittily. He's frankly a dinosaur. To be fair...... -Steen was a dick to him in general, and kinda to the company. He wanted to take Steen off of TV for 6 months so he can get in better shape and he would come back to a big push, and that didn't end up happening. He talked about it on his podcast, there was also a pay issue he had with Steen, I'd have to go back and listen to that. Steen was a pain to deal with apparently. -He said El Generico was the best seller he's seen since Ricky Morton, he just didn't get the gimmick. -He doesn't believe funny can draw money, and in general, he's right. Most of the top guys don't really use humour, or when they do, it's unintentional and not just doing something funny for the sake of it. Plus, he also feels that guys need to go away from a company for awhile so the fans can miss them. EY was a comedy character for years, and one reason people didn't get into his title run was because, he was a comedy character for years.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 2, 2014 22:03:16 GMT -5
This might have carried more weight with me if we didn't know he was the douche who let Colt slip between his fingers, and treated Steen and Generico rather shittily. He's frankly a dinosaur. To be fair...... -Steen was a dick to him in general, and kinda to the company. He wanted to take Steen off of TV for 6 months so he can get in better shape and he would come back to a big push, and that didn't end up happening. He talked about it on his podcast, there was also a pay issue he had with Steen, I'd have to go back and listen to that. Steen was a pain to deal with apparently. -He said El Generico was the best seller he's seen since Ricky Morton, he just didn't get the gimmick. -He doesn't believe funny can draw money, and in general, he's right. Most of the top guys don't really use humour, or when they do, it's unintentional and not just doing something funny for the sake of it. Plus, he also feels that guys need to go away from a company for awhile so the fans can miss them. EY was a comedy character for years, and one reason people didn't get into his title run was because, he was a comedy character for years. Kurt Angle takes a massive dump all over his argument. Hell, Foley, Rock, and even Austin have shown you can be funny AND credible. He seems to think they are mutually exclusive. I think he has some merit to his arguments, but he's also missing a huge failure in his reasoning.
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jul 2, 2014 22:07:21 GMT -5
To be fair...... -Steen was a dick to him in general, and kinda to the company. He wanted to take Steen off of TV for 6 months so he can get in better shape and he would come back to a big push, and that didn't end up happening. He talked about it on his podcast, there was also a pay issue he had with Steen, I'd have to go back and listen to that. Steen was a pain to deal with apparently. -He said El Generico was the best seller he's seen since Ricky Morton, he just didn't get the gimmick. -He doesn't believe funny can draw money, and in general, he's right. Most of the top guys don't really use humour, or when they do, it's unintentional and not just doing something funny for the sake of it. Plus, he also feels that guys need to go away from a company for awhile so the fans can miss them. EY was a comedy character for years, and one reason people didn't get into his title run was because, he was a comedy character for years. Kurt Angle takes a massive dump all over his argument. Hell, Foley, Rock, and even Austin have shown you can be funny AND credible. He seems to think they are mutually exclusive. I think he has some merit to his arguments, but he's also missing a huge failure in his reasoning. How much comedy did Austin do on the way up to his main run. Again, all his comedy came from this crazy man doing crazy things. He wasn't trying to make people laugh when he drove a zamboni to the ring. Same goes with The Rock. I guess it depends on the comedy, and I tried to make that distinction. Cornette has brought up this reasoning. A guy slips and falls on the street, and the groceries go flying everywhere. It looks funny and most people would laugh at that. If a guy looks around to see if people are watching, then purposely slips and falls, you're just doing that to try and get a laugh. When Kurt Angle was heated up, they liked to have him be ultra serious. Same with Rock, like, his would insult people, which was funny, but he was always serious and always took his opponent serious. Also, before I go to bed, one comment on Generico. I feel that he didn't want to book El Generico, but give him Sami Zayn, and Cornette would make him the top baby face.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 2, 2014 22:08:19 GMT -5
This might have carried more weight with me if we didn't know he was the douche who let Colt slip between his fingers, and treated Steen and Generico rather shittily. He's frankly a dinosaur. He is objectively incorrect about Colt Cabana and El Generico but I have to give him some credit, him and Steen seem to have a great dislike for each other but he still gave Steen the world and booked Steen in one of the best storylines ever ("my name is Kevin Steen. And f*** Ring of Honor") so he's not unreasonable. I thought his vision of ROH was alright, I liked a lot of the feuds during his time but it just wasn't Ring of Honor. I don't think he's fit to take upstart companies like ROH and lead them to bigger things but he's a good, sensible booker never the less.
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Post by Ragnal on Jul 2, 2014 22:11:02 GMT -5
This might have carried more weight with me if we didn't know he was the douche who let Colt slip between his fingers, and treated Steen and Generico rather shittily. He's frankly a dinosaur. -He doesn't believe funny can draw money, and in general, he's right. Most of the top guys don't really use humour, or when they do, it's unintentional and not just doing something funny for the sake of it. Plus, he also feels that guys need to go away from a company for awhile so the fans can miss them. EY was a comedy character for years, and one reason people didn't get into his title run was because, he was a comedy character for years. Well, it's not that the top guys DON'T use humor, it's just that when they do, it's John Cena and photoshop jokes that are painful to sit through.
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Post by cabbageboy on Jul 2, 2014 22:40:07 GMT -5
Cornette knows how to book redneck wrestling for a niche audience. Even in OVW his stuff was kind of an acquired taste and frankly paled in comparison to even latter day USWA style booking. Watch Cornette era OVW and then watch Heyman booked OVW from 2005-06 and judge for yourself which is better. There were weeks under Heyman that OVW was the best wrestling show on that week, and I can't seriously say that about Cornette.
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Post by Seth Drakin of Monster Crap on Jul 2, 2014 22:57:10 GMT -5
Cornette knows how to book redneck wrestling for a niche audience. Even in OVW his stuff was kind of an acquired taste and frankly paled in comparison to even latter day USWA style booking. Watch Cornette era OVW and then watch Heyman booked OVW from 2005-06 and judge for yourself which is better. There were weeks under Heyman that OVW was the best wrestling show on that week, and I can't seriously say that about Cornette. And that is why WWE is not going to allow Paul Heyman to go to any other company, because they know that Paul still has some good ideas in him that could help a company that is definitely going to want to be the alternative. Cornette, WWE could care less where he goes or what he says because to them, he doesn't matter anymore and to most people, he couldn't be a guy who could book something that could be a great alternative to WWE.
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