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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 9, 2014 6:03:46 GMT -5
In honor of Sin Cara-mania, I thought to myself... with someone as hyped as he was and for someone as "expected to be" a main guy for the WWE Roster, and what they got in return, is Sin Cara the biggest Bust to ever set foot in the E?
Now keep in mind there have been really crappy wrestlers, gimmicks, runs, but take into consideration how much stock WWE put into those guys, and the stock WWE put into Cara. I can't think of many that top the Scooby Doo Loving Luchadore...
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 9, 2014 6:11:40 GMT -5
I'd argue that Mark Henry was a bigger bust. The amount of hype they had for him, plus the ten-year contract, they genuinely thought he would be a huge megastar.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 6:12:19 GMT -5
Nope. Always gonna be Ryback.
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Post by TGM on Jul 9, 2014 6:14:04 GMT -5
I think during Lesnar's first year they invested in him so heavily that post-Wrestlemania 20 just seems like a big blur to me without him. He was the only thing that really kept me watching WWE regularly after the Invasion. I think they did well to bring Cena and Batista to the top in his absence, but they must've had plans for Lesnar for the next fifteen years when he decided to quit, I think that's the biggest bust.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 9, 2014 6:14:47 GMT -5
Nope. Always gonna be Ryback. Yeah but... I still think Ryback has a semblance of a chance to get a re-push. Plus, his "Big Guy" shtick is getting over with fans now.
I think Ryback was a matter of being pushed too early and too strong. At least Ryback could put on something of a match, Cara screwed up every match he was in just about, and in bad fashion, not to mention badly timed injuries, and failing a wellness test
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 9, 2014 6:16:16 GMT -5
I think during Lesnar's first year they invested in him so heavily that post-Wrestlemania 20 just seems like a big blur to me without him. He was the only thing that really kept me watching WWE regularly after the Invasion. I think they did well to bring Cena and Batista to the top in his absence, but they must've had plans for Lesnar for the next fifteen years when he decided to quit, I think that's the biggest bust.
I don't see him as the biggest bust when he won titles, had good matches, and beat the streak.
Yeah he left, and yeah it was really horribly timed but I don't consider Lesnar a bust considering he will go into the Hall of Fame without a doubt now.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 6:16:50 GMT -5
That would go to Kharma, even though it was just unfortunate timing that she got pregnant at the time of her debut.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 9, 2014 6:17:39 GMT -5
Nathan Jones, and it's not even close, if we're talking invested money, effort, and time for nothing in return. He was bad enough to where even marks knew he was godawful.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 9, 2014 6:18:25 GMT -5
That would go to Kharma, even though it was just unfortunate timing that she got pregnant at the time of her debut. Karma was a bust yeah... but I still think Cara had more weight to what was expected of him. What with the marketing, and the expectation. I believe he was the first big signing of Trips getting real power in the back and him doing bad wasn't a good thing.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 6:19:33 GMT -5
Nathan Jones, and it's not even close, if we're talking invested money, effort, and time for nothing in return. He was bad enough to where even marks knew he was godawful. Oh my god, I almost forgot about the Colossus of Leaky Boobs.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 9, 2014 6:19:35 GMT -5
Nathan Jones, and it's not even close, if we're talking invested money, effort, and time for nothing in return. He was bad enough to where even marks knew he was godawful. Has he debuted for TNA yet?
That's been a rumor for like 8 years lol.
Also Nathans theme is a guilty pleasure for me. But yeah, he's up there as a big bust considering he was going to be Takers partner at Mania...
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Post by berlynwright on Jul 9, 2014 6:20:20 GMT -5
I think during Lesnar's first year they invested in him so heavily that post-Wrestlemania 20 just seems like a big blur to me without him. He was the only thing that really kept me watching WWE regularly after the Invasion. I think they did well to bring Cena and Batista to the top in his absence, but they must've had plans for Lesnar for the next fifteen years when he decided to quit, I think that's the biggest bust. noone should question Paul Heyman's client who broke the Undertaker's undefeated streak at wrestlemania
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 9, 2014 6:23:44 GMT -5
They didnt put Sin in main events or anything, so I'll say no.
Also, Lesnar is in no way a bust, even if he did leave.
To me, a bust would be someone they put at the top of the card consistently, that never sustained it, or justified it. Del Rio maybe?
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Post by JCBaggee on Jul 9, 2014 6:25:13 GMT -5
One could argue long term that Mark Henry paid off. He's well known for his Attitude Era run as Sexual Chocolate, and "The Hand", and his last few years he's had a stellar run with his Hall of Pain gimmick.
Ryback isn't a bust yet, as he can still get back on top of the mountain. He has had a pretty spectacular fall from grace, though.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 9, 2014 6:25:14 GMT -5
No. While Mistico Sin Cara may not have been all that he should have from an in-ring standpoint, he sold merch regardless so I have little doubt that the WWE made a lot of money on the deal.
Compare that to the time, money and effort the WWE have spent pushing Randy Orton. I have a hard time believing that they have ever had a real bump in buyrates or ticket sales because Orton was there, but he remains at the top of the card, being adequate at best which just isn't enough to justify all that effort. When someone is pushed for a decade, they should be something special but Orton has never shown signs of greatness and likely never will.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 9, 2014 6:26:25 GMT -5
They didnt put Sin in main events or anything, so I'll say no. Also, Lesnar is in no way a bust, even if he did leave. To me, a bust would be someone they put at the top of the card consistently, that never sustained it, or justified it. Del Rio maybe? Del Rio would be up there
Cara was always a constant focus to me though, like they were REALLY pushing him to try and get him to that main event status. He got all the gimmicks, the marketing, and really had a lot going for him, all he had to do was perform, and he just screwed himself.
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Post by The Lach is very tired on Jul 9, 2014 6:35:12 GMT -5
Nathan Jones, and it's not even close, if we're talking invested money, effort, and time for nothing in return. He was bad enough to where even marks knew he was godawful. Worst Australian export since those coin purses made from Kangaroo scrotums.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Jul 9, 2014 6:41:13 GMT -5
No. While Mistico Sin Cara may not have been all that he should have from an in-ring standpoint, he sold merch regardless so I have little doubt that the WWE made a lot of money on the deal. Compare that to the time, money and effort the WWE have spent pushing Randy Orton. I have a hard time believing that they have ever had a real bump in buyrates or ticket sales because Orton was there, but he remains at the top of the card, being adequate at best which just isn't enough to justify all that effort. When someone is pushed for a decade, they should be something special but Orton has never shown signs of greatness and likely never will. It's a shame can't market his Randy Orton Cocaine...
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 6:53:37 GMT -5
I always felt like Ludvig Borga ended up being a big waste of time with him basically just disappearing (due to injury) after being rocketed towards the top.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 9, 2014 6:59:21 GMT -5
Lord Tensai anyone?
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