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Post by Bob Schlapowitz on Jul 9, 2014 18:11:21 GMT -5
How about Marc Mero. Arrive in 1996 to a good push, spends most of 1997 injured, spends 1998 being totally overshadowed by Sable, gone by 1999.
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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 9, 2014 18:21:21 GMT -5
MEGA HI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by James Fabiano on Jul 9, 2014 18:21:58 GMT -5
If he did the interpretive dance routine from the Scooby cartoon, he would have gotten over. (Okay, I meant I would be entertained, but....) Yeah, Outback Jack anyone? Based on the similar attention he got with vignettes, Beaver Cleavage? Someone said Dr. Death getting KOed by Bart Gunn. How about BART GUNN himself? Brakus? The bust that didn't make it to TV, even..."Megaman" Tom Magee? He better come with a mega buster and energy tanks or I'm going to be very disappointed. They could repackage jobber Scott McGhee as "Protoman" Scott McGhee.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 18:29:43 GMT -5
No. While Mistico Sin Cara may not have been all that he should have from an in-ring standpoint, he sold merch regardless so I have little doubt that the WWE made a lot of money on the deal. Compare that to the time, money and effort the WWE have spent pushing Randy Orton. I have a hard time believing that they have ever had a real bump in buyrates or ticket sales because Orton was there, but he remains at the top of the card, being adequate at best which just isn't enough to justify all that effort. When someone is pushed for a decade, they should be something special but Orton has never shown signs of greatness and likely never will. The funny thing about Orton is that he could have been bigger than what he was. It has always been that the WWE seems to do the opposite push for him at critical times. When the fans don't care for him or want another guy at the top (like, say, Christian), they push the hell out of him, but when he's getting reactions and they are interested (2009 against Triple H, 2006 against Hogan, and even when he first won the WHC, although that was botched), they ruin it in the end.
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Post by steamboat1 on Jul 9, 2014 19:03:21 GMT -5
Biggest bust ever...RVD as WWE champ.
OOOOOOOOH. The other kind of bust.
Hulk Hogan's 1993 comeback. Ratings and attendance didn't change one iota and they pumped a ton of money into hyping him for Wrestlemania.
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Post by tms on Jul 9, 2014 19:16:44 GMT -5
Bam Bam Bigelow's initial push in 1987 could also be a candidate. They seemed to have BIG plans for him back then. He was constantly teaming with Hogan, had alot of focus. Then he has that countout loss at WM 4, and then disappears for 5 years. Bam Bam's the textbook example of bad booking meeting the glass ceiling. He was an ELITE talent and SHOULD have been a top 5 name of his (or any) era, especially as a pre-Austin badass face. He doesn't meet the criteria for "bust" because he never received booking support commensurate with his talent.
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Post by tms on Jul 9, 2014 19:18:21 GMT -5
Words can't describe how horrible the Captain N show was. Ugh.
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Post by The Trashman on Jul 9, 2014 19:50:19 GMT -5
Sin Cara was much less of a bust than Nathan Jones or even Lex Luger.
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Post by dreamer75 on Jul 9, 2014 21:39:50 GMT -5
What about the Patriot? He came in as a big deal and was DOA almost from his debut.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Jul 9, 2014 21:43:30 GMT -5
You know... to be honest, the original Sin Cara just may be the biggest 'bust' in WWE history. They had the huge signing announcement and press release. He was touted as the first major move of the Triple H talent relations era. Just about the only thing you can say about Sin Cara is that WWE probably made some money off of merchandise. Lots of injuries. Lots of 'botches.' A wellness violation. Even one of his first big T-shirts was a 'botch' and had to be pulled.
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Post by Malcolm on Jul 9, 2014 21:44:26 GMT -5
Tazz. What a debut, then he was a joke. Too many Injuries, he had to call it quits
Unfortunately someone thought it was a good idea to give him a commentary headset and for over the past 10 years we've suffered...
I'd still take Tazz over Lawler any day of the week.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Jul 9, 2014 22:28:20 GMT -5
all things considered, Kennedy's a great choice. all that stuff handed to him and all they have to show for it is Hornswoggle being Vince's "son".
Scott Steiner has to be a bust, too. guy was built up as the guy who was going to take down Triple H only to show up in the worst shape of his career and ramble his way though a bunch of incoherent speeches that became memes. he got demoted to the midcard pretty quickly.
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Post by Racksman on Jul 9, 2014 22:34:34 GMT -5
I can't see straight. Big Show, Mark Henry and Brock Lesnar even being brought up once in a thread about biggest busts is just...
I mean, holy shit, for real?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 9, 2014 22:40:30 GMT -5
I can't see straight. Big Show, Mark Henry and Brock Lesnar even being brought up once in a thread about biggest busts is just... I mean, holy shit, for real? Big Show kind of is a bust. Yeah he's kind of over, but they really didn't get much out of him as they put into him. They tried so hard to push him, but he's not really a draw. He really isn't doing anything productive. And even if they stop pushing him and job him out, they only book him to work with people who are already long established, so he isn't "making" anyone either.
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Post by Racksman on Jul 9, 2014 22:43:33 GMT -5
I can't see straight. Big Show, Mark Henry and Brock Lesnar even being brought up once in a thread about biggest busts is just... I mean, holy shit, for real? Big Show kind of is a bust. Yeah he's kind of over, but they really didn't get much out of him as they put into him. No. Just...No. I am usually up for a debate on something, but NO. HOW THE HELL IS BIG SHOW A BUST?! Numerous time World Champion, a rather legendary figure in wrestling. He had a rough for year or two because of his attitude but he was still young. And now he's been there for 15 years. How in the HELL is that a bust?!
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Post by Racksman on Jul 9, 2014 22:44:25 GMT -5
I just...holy shit, I'm sorry.
WHAT ABOUT MARC MERO OR KERRY VON ERICH OR PUBLIC ENEMY?! ACTUAL, NOTABLE BUSTS.
yea i mad.
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Post by Racksman on Jul 9, 2014 22:46:52 GMT -5
EDIT: NOT A BUST.
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Post by canceled4truth on Jul 9, 2014 23:13:58 GMT -5
Calling Randy Orton a bust is like calling Michael Vick a bust.
Sure, they didn't revolutionize their sport like some people predicted, but they both have had pretty f***ing good careers with some aweomse moments even with their personal issues. Not an all-time great, but not a bust either.
On the other hand, calling Big Show a bust is like calling Allen Iverson or Eli Manning a bust. Who cares if they never destroyed the league? They're still making it into the Hall of Fame.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 9, 2014 23:16:22 GMT -5
Calling Randy Orton a bust is like calling Michael Vick a bust. Sure, they didn't revolutionize their sport like some people predicted, but they both have had pretty f***ing food careers with some aweomse moments even with their personal issues. Not an all-time great, but not a bust either. I don't think anyone is disputing Orton's accomplishments so much as they're regarding him as a bust because he's not as big of a star as the company wants him to be in spite of all those accomplishments.
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Jul 9, 2014 23:19:25 GMT -5
Orton isn't a bust. Yeah, Orton got pushed hard, and never became a Crossover Star to show for it...
But Orton never had the personality to be a Crossover Star either.
I'll be the first to admit that he hasn't lived up to his potential. You can see it when he goes through his hot streaks where suddenly he's putting on amazing matches week to week, and then goes back to going through the motions again.
But I really don't think he was ever going to be the guy to usher in "the new boom period". And I doubt WWE ever thought that either. They just saw him as being young enough at the time to be a long-term Main Eventer.
Which he has.
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