EVOLVE is being rebooted

[mcmahonfan85]

from PWInsider:

EVOLVE ANNOUNCES REBOOT OF PROMOTION, FULL DETAILS
by Mike Johnson @ 6:23 PM on 7/9/2014

EVOLVE officially announced they were rebooting aspects of their promotion today.
In an email release to their mailing list, the following was announced:

We are going to use the break to start a new chapter for EVOLVE in Florida. Chapter 2 will see a reboot of the DVD series. We are going to put EVOLVE 31, EVOLVE 32 and EVOLVE 33 into immediate DVD production. These events will be designed to be a great point to jump in and follow the EVOLVE/DGUSA series on DVD. We will then work backwards and get the older DGUSA/EVOLVE shows out on DVD. We want to remind you that every DGUSA/EVOLVE event in history is available at www.WWNLive.com to watch anytime. When you buy one of these iPPVs, you own it for unlimited access.

EVOLVE: Chapter 2 will see the return of Records, but with a new, simpler twist. Records will be tracked on each weekend. At the end of the weekend, the Records will be used to determine a top ten rankings. At this point, all Records will reset to zero and everything is about the rankings. These rankings will determine the matches on the following EVOLVE weekend. We realize with double and tripleshots that we will have multiple wrestlers with the same Record after the weekend. In this case, we will use tie breakers including fan response, past results, quality of opposition and who had the most dominant victories. Much more on this will become clear during EVOLVE 31, EVOLVE 32 and EVOLVE 33 in Florida.


EVOLVE will be running Florida the weekend of 8/9 with a triple shot, with events Friday 8/8 at the The Orpheum in Ybor City, FL, Saturday 8/9 at the Orlando Downtown Recreation Complex in Orlando, FL and 8/10 in Jacksonville, FL at the 1904 Music Hall featuring EVOLVE Champion Chris Hero, Open The Freedom Gate Champion Ricochet, Matt Sydal, Drew Galloway, Johnny Gargano, Rich Swann, AR Fox, Tony Nese with Su Young, Trent Baretta, Caleb Konley, Drew Gulak, Biff Busick, Timothy Thatcher and more.

For more, visit www.DGUSA.tv.

[Sin Cara Tres]

Oh cool, they're finally releasing DVDs that should have cam out a year ago.

[KAMALARAMBO: BOOMSHAKALAKA!!!]

Honestly, it needs it.

[OldDirtyBernie]

Yeah, but didn't TNA have Angle come out and say they were rebooting their product at the NYC Tapings, then they just continued BAU?

[froggyfrog]

lol nice try gabe

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This is just unnecessarily convoluted. Why not just maintain public win/loss records and have them help drive the booking (but not totally control it) without all of the subjective bullshit? There's no need to wipe slates and there's definitely no need for all of those tiebreakers.

If they want to do it this way they should just keep track of wins/losses, post an official Top Ten after each set of shows and hype matches according to guys being undefeated/similar records/needing a win/etc. This is just them trying to keep themselves from getting painted into a corner with booking by using a really overly complicated system for no reason.

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Ugh. The problem with this records approach is Gabe wanting to have his cake and eat it too (A phrase that makes no sense to me, but you know what I mean). He wants us to pretend like records matter but doesn't want to have to be trapped by having to give everybody a certain amount of wins to do it. Either go all out or abandon it.

This is hardly the problem with Evolve/DGUSA though. The promotions feel totally lifeless in a ton of ways. MAJOR overhauls are needed, and honestly I think they're just too far gone.

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I guess they wanted a Glaceon instead of a Sylveon.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

Jul 10, 2014 0:15:25 GMT -5 @rrnew said:

Ugh. The problem with this records approach is Gabe wanting to have his cake and eat it too (A phrase that makes no sense to me, but you know what I mean). He wants us to pretend like records matter but doesn't want to have to be trapped by having to give everybody a certain amount of wins to do it. Either go all out or abandon it.

This is hardly the problem with Evolve/DGUSA though. The promotions feel totally lifeless in a ton of ways. MAJOR overhauls are needed, and honestly I think they're just too far gone.

I honestly think the WWN promotions should just be merged under one banner. One company with one name and one set of champions.

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Jul 10, 2014 1:13:09 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

Jul 10, 2014 0:15:25 GMT -5 @rrnew said:

Ugh. The problem with this records approach is Gabe wanting to have his cake and eat it too (A phrase that makes no sense to me, but you know what I mean). He wants us to pretend like records matter but doesn't want to have to be trapped by having to give everybody a certain amount of wins to do it. Either go all out or abandon it.

This is hardly the problem with Evolve/DGUSA though. The promotions feel totally lifeless in a ton of ways. MAJOR overhauls are needed, and honestly I think they're just too far gone.

I honestly think the WWN promotions should just be merged under one banner. One company with one name and one set of champions.

That would be way to simple 

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In the UFC, while rankings are important. It's not the be all end all, as they will often book matches based on marketability, as opposed to who may actually deserves it.

So if rankings aren't determining everything in a legit sport. Why should they in a fake one?

[Brood Lone Wolf Funker]

They should have held B sooner

[A Platypus Rave]

Crisis on Infinite Evolves...

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Jul 10, 2014 0:15:25 GMT -5 @rrnew said:

Ugh. The problem with this records approach is Gabe wanting to have his cake and eat it too (A phrase that makes no sense to me, but you know what I mean). He wants us to pretend like records matter but doesn't want to have to be trapped by having to give everybody a certain amount of wins to do it. Either go all out or abandon it.

This is hardly the problem with Evolve/DGUSA though. The promotions feel totally lifeless in a ton of ways. MAJOR overhauls are needed, and honestly I think they're just too far gone.

The actual have your cake phrase is often misunderstood due to some mix-ups in terms these days (given it's 500 or so years old as a phrase), but it thoroughly means "you can't eat your cake and then still have a slice sitting on your plate" as opposed to "you can't have a cake then eat it!" (/language wanker) so you're entirely correct in using it here.

Again, I don't get why Evolve doesn't just carry on as usual. What benefit does a reboot give to the product? And why have the DVDs many people wanted for a year and a half failed to materialize up until now? Come on, Gabe...

[A Platypus Rave]

Jul 10, 2014 9:47:04 GMT -5 @pauledraperously said:

Jul 10, 2014 0:15:25 GMT -5 @rrnew said:

Ugh. The problem with this records approach is Gabe wanting to have his cake and eat it too (A phrase that makes no sense to me, but you know what I mean). He wants us to pretend like records matter but doesn't want to have to be trapped by having to give everybody a certain amount of wins to do it. Either go all out or abandon it.

This is hardly the problem with Evolve/DGUSA though. The promotions feel totally lifeless in a ton of ways. MAJOR overhauls are needed, and honestly I think they're just too far gone.

The actual have your cake phrase is often misunderstood due to some mix-ups in terms these days (given it's 500 or so years old as a phrase), but it thoroughly means "you can't eat your cake and then still have a slice sitting on your plate" as opposed to "you can't have a cake then eat it!" (/language wanker) so you're entirely correct in using it here.

Yeah, the phrase makes perfect sense here.

[Magic knows Black Lives Matter]

God, it really is just one L after another for Gabe at this point. Like watching somebody fall off a big tree and hit every branch on the way down.

[OVO 40 hunched over like he 80]

Ok let's stop pretending evolve and dgusa aren't the same shit, just merge them both and have the wrestlers evolve....congratulations your Rich Swann has turn into Onyx.

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Geez, way to make wrestling sound really, really boring.

They're going way ott with the rankings thing. Its dry, very dry.

Which sucks, because they've got a lot of cool guys on their roster and it seems like the better way to go would be to have wrestlers petition fans via youtube/social media/whatever to cast votes for them to be put into a #1 contender's bout, be it traditional match, 3way, fatal 4way, whatever.

That way there's still some control about who gets the title, but also fans will want to tune into see their guy vie for the spot.

Then you build the undercard stories based smaller feuds or wrestlers trying to win over more fan love so they can be voted into the #1 contender's match.

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Jul 10, 2014 11:08:32 GMT -5 @personman01 said:

Geez, way to make wrestling sound really, really boring.

They're going way ott with the rankings thing. Its dry, very dry.

Which sucks, because they've got a lot of cool guys on their roster and it seems like the better way to go would be to have wrestlers petition fans via youtube/social media/whatever to cast votes for them to be put into a #1 contender's bout, be it traditional match, 3way, fatal 4way, whatever.

That way there's still some control about who gets the title, but also fans will want to tune into see their guy vie for the spot.

Then you build the undercard stories based smaller feuds or wrestlers trying to win over more fan love so they can be voted into the #1 contender's match.

It sounds like wreslting put through a computer program.

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Jul 10, 2014 10:17:15 GMT -5 Magic knows Black Lives Matter said:

God, it really is just one L after another for Gabe at this point. Like watching somebody fall off a big tree and hit every branch on the way down.

Considering how long this has been going on, how tall is the tree Gabe's fallen from?!