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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:43:34 GMT -5
Please have her replace one of these guys. Please. It would instantly make watching Raw and SD far more enjoyable.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:44:39 GMT -5
It wouldn't matter, because once you're on the main shows, you have Vince or whoever yelling in your headset telling you to say all sorts of nonsense.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jul 9, 2014 20:45:37 GMT -5
I've heard from other people that she isn't really that good on commentary. Maybe it's inexperience but let's not over-exaggerate how great she is at it because she's new.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:46:30 GMT -5
How confused will people be when Renee does commentary on RAW and people start having to say she sucks?
I mean we're not going to pretend JBL just magically became bad the exact instant he switched to RAW because that just happened to be the day he lost it, right?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:47:44 GMT -5
I've heard from other people that she isn't really that good on commentary. Maybe it's inexperience but let's not over-exaggerate how great she is at it because she's new. Who's over-exaggerating how she is on commentary?
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Post by BD Punk AKA SUSPENDED! on Jul 9, 2014 20:47:56 GMT -5
I've heard Renee on NXT a few times and she's not bad. I'd rather listen to her any day over JBL and King
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Post by Andrew is Good on Jul 9, 2014 20:48:59 GMT -5
They should just have Renee and Tom Phillips do Smackdown. He's not too bad either as just the straight man announcer. Hell, bring up William Regal too, have the whole NXT commentary team do Smackdown. And Raw maybe.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jul 9, 2014 20:49:26 GMT -5
I've heard from other people that she isn't really that good on commentary. Maybe it's inexperience but let's not over-exaggerate how great she is at it because she's new. Who's over-exaggerating how she is on commentary? Well to say she'll be an improvement on Jibble/King/Cole when it's Vince controlling the way the commentators speak, seems odd to me when Renee has her own faults and then has to follow suit with how the veteran call matches.
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Post by Sin Cara Tres on Jul 9, 2014 20:50:30 GMT -5
If Renee is going to commentate the main shows, they can never have a guest commentate.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:52:04 GMT -5
Renee on RAW could be even worse with Vince on the line, god knows how that'd work with female commentary.
Cole: *random stuff*
Lawler: *random stuff*
Renee: "That reminds me of that time I blew the entire roster in Tijuana!"
Lawler: *googly eyes* *Awooga car horn sound effect from the 20s as camera zooms in and out on his face, boing sound effect*
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Post by Perd on Jul 9, 2014 20:53:32 GMT -5
It wouldn't matter, because once you're on the main shows, you have Vince or whoever yelling in your headset telling you to say all sorts of nonsense. I wish they'd do a separate audio feed for network subscribers, of Vince yelling at the three stooges.
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jul 9, 2014 20:54:36 GMT -5
Renee can be god-awful on commentary at NXT, but that's because she's for some reason trying to get over a persona of "bitches is crazy, am I right, fellas? I'm the cool chick you like hanging out with!" If she drops that, she'll probably be fine.
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Post by Phil Parent on Jul 9, 2014 20:55:24 GMT -5
She'd replace...King? He'll be 65 next year, how much longer can he keep going?
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Jul 9, 2014 20:55:48 GMT -5
It wouldn't matter, because once you're on the main shows, you have Vince or whoever yelling in your headset telling you to say all sorts of nonsense. I wish they'd do a separate audio feed for network subscribers, of Vince yelling at the three stooges. I eventually figured out what you meant, but at first I thought you were saying the network should air a show of Vince watching Three Stooges shorts and yelling at the TV. I can get behind that.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:57:20 GMT -5
She'd replace...King? He'll be 65 next year, how much longer can he keep going? Pat Summerall, NFL commentator, was doing play-by-play into his 70's when he retired.
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Post by Perd on Jul 9, 2014 20:57:21 GMT -5
I wish they'd do a separate audio feed for network subscribers, of Vince yelling at the three stooges. I eventually figured out what you meant, but at first I thought you were saying the network should air a show of Vince watching Three Stooges shorts and yelling at the TV. I can get behind that. Your idea is better.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 20:59:15 GMT -5
Who's over-exaggerating how she is on commentary? Well to say she'll be an improvement on Jibble/King/Cole when it's Vince controlling the way the commentators speak, seems odd to me when Renee has her own faults and then has to follow suit with how the veteran call matches. Vince gives them lines and such but Vince doesn't control everything since thing they talk about. A big problem that a lot of people have with Cole, King and JBL is the fact they spend time not commentating on the match, bad small talk, bad jokes and the whole works. A great amount of that is based on who they are as people rather than what Vince says. Don't pretend that Vince gives Lawler these horrible lines each and every Raw because that's clearly on Jerry here.
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Post by Sparkybob on Jul 9, 2014 21:20:26 GMT -5
Well to say she'll be an improvement on Jibble/King/Cole when it's Vince controlling the way the commentators speak, seems odd to me when Renee has her own faults and then has to follow suit with how the veteran call matches. Vince gives them lines and such but Vince doesn't control everything since thing they talk about. A big problem that a lot of people have with Cole, King and JBL is the fact they spend time not commentating on the match, bad small talk, bad jokes and the whole works. A great amount of that is based on who they are as people rather than what Vince says. Don't pretend that Vince gives Lawler these horrible lines each and every Raw because that's clearly on Jerry here. The brass doesn't want the commentators to call moves anymore, Stone Cold and Cena mention how the announcers job is more to tell story or try to add entertainment to the match by telling stories or making jokes or giving backstory etc. Renee on Raw isn't suddenly going to be calling moves and having serious discussions, she'll be like the boys and make jokes tell irrelevant stories and shill stuff. Maybe her stuff will be entertaining but I can't foresee a large improvement at all especially how she calls women matches.
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Post by keezy on Jul 9, 2014 21:28:17 GMT -5
I'm still sticking with my opinion that she's as informative as someone talking through a movie and telling you everything that's going on.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 21:32:52 GMT -5
Vince gives them lines and such but Vince doesn't control everything since thing they talk about. A big problem that a lot of people have with Cole, King and JBL is the fact they spend time not commentating on the match, bad small talk, bad jokes and the whole works. A great amount of that is based on who they are as people rather than what Vince says. Don't pretend that Vince gives Lawler these horrible lines each and every Raw because that's clearly on Jerry here. The brass doesn't want the commentators to call moves anymore, Stone Cold and Cena mention how the announcers job is more to tell story or try to add entertainment to the match by telling stories or making jokes or giving backstory etc. Renee on Raw isn't suddenly going to be calling moves and having serious discussions, she'll be like the boys and make jokes tell irrelevant stories and shill stuff. Maybe her stuff will be entertaining but I can't foresee a large improvement at all especially how she calls women matches. And as I said, a lot amount of this is based on who JBL, Cole and King are as people rather than what the officials tell them to do. Vince doesn't give them the bad jokes, he doesn't give them the bad small talk lines, he doesn't give them those types of things and that's really crucial in this situation. That's based upon how they act themselves. Regardless if she's "calling moves" or "having serious discussions" the fact remains that Renee as a character isn't going to be spouting these comments that JBL, Cole and King themselves make up purely because she's not them. That depends on the commentator. From that it's based on if you think Renee is more enjoyable than Lawler, Cole and King outside of Vince's lines and that depends on the person as a whole. With that said I stick by my initial statement in this thread. Please have her replace one of those guys. Rest assured we won't be hearing Renee say any of Lawler's one-liners.
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