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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 16, 2014 21:25:46 GMT -5
Anyone know the full story on this? I believe he only showed up for one show, which was a minor miracle since he was still under contract to WCW at the time, or at least I think he was. I guess Hall was too "extreme" even for ECW.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 16, 2014 21:31:17 GMT -5
It was really common in ECW, people who swing through only a handful of times, Sid being another example.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Jul 16, 2014 21:57:21 GMT -5
He did 2 shows. One was a house show in Schenectady (which I went to) and the other was a TV taping in Poughkeepsie.
At the Schenectady show, he was a surprise that no one knew about, save for the internet fans. This was before I was into dirtsheets and the like, so we had no idea. We were right by the entrance and talking to Atlas security the whole night. One guy sitting near us was your prototype "IWC member," complaining about the NYS Athletic Commission not letting them use tables and weapons. The one security guard kept saying they have something special planned, and IWC guy kept asking if it was Hall. No one believed him, but when Hall came out, for a place with maybe 400 people, the pop was massive. From what I can recall, its the only instance of a "Holy Shit" chant just for someone being at an event.
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Post by cjh on Jul 16, 2014 21:58:36 GMT -5
WCW fired Hall in October 2000 after not using him since February (leading to Kevin Nash constantly bringing him up on Nitro and Thunder despite being asked to not do it).
Afterwards, he worked two ECW shows one weekend in November, but there wasn't much chance to follow up as ECW didn't run any events after that until Massacre on 34th Street 3 weeks later. There were rumors that Hall would work that show, but he didn't.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2014 22:25:20 GMT -5
While we're on the subject of random dude's showing up in ECW, what was the deal with Arn showing up around 94 or so? Was that part of that talent trade that WCW had going on or what?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 0:22:29 GMT -5
While we're on the subject of random dude's showing up in ECW, what was the deal with Arn showing up around 94 or so? Was that part of that talent trade that WCW had going on or what? I have that on my When Worlds Collide dvd. It was Arn/Terry Funk vs Sabu/Bobby Eaton. The show happened in May after Arn and Eaton had "invaded" ECW the month before. I don't know what the deal was though sorry.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Jul 17, 2014 0:29:59 GMT -5
While we're on the subject of random dude's showing up in ECW, what was the deal with Arn showing up around 94 or so? Was that part of that talent trade that WCW had going on or what? I believe it was the settlement of a lawsuit Paul E filed against WCW for something I can't remember. Some will say it was because WCW used a PPV name that ECW had trademarked but that's not it.
Anyway ECW got some money and could pick a couple guys to work one of their shows. Paul E. chose Anderson and Eaton. They were brought in as the dream partners of Terry Funk and Sabu respectively.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 17, 2014 1:32:26 GMT -5
Is it true that Shane Douglas and Candido kicked him out of the lockerroom? They're not tough guys, and I get the impression ol Scott is not one to be f***ed with.
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Post by TGM on Jul 17, 2014 4:59:20 GMT -5
Is it true that Shane Douglas and Candido kicked him out of the lockerroom? They're not tough guys, and I get the impression ol Scott is not one to be f***ed with. He has killed a man before. Something I believe Kevin Nash blames for his drinking and drug abuse.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 17, 2014 15:56:27 GMT -5
Is it true that Shane Douglas and Candido kicked him out of the lockerroom? They're not tough guys, and I get the impression ol Scott is not one to be f***ed with. He has killed a man before. Something I believe Kevin Nash blames for his drinking and drug abuse. Yeah he revealed it on that espn special, that's why I don't buy Shane and Skip kicking him out of the lockerroom
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Post by weaselboy on Jul 17, 2014 16:03:55 GMT -5
If I remember correctly his opponent was Big Sal E Graziano, which to me seems absolutely mental. I also remember that it was a (literal) squash match with Hall just falling within seconds to his finisher. EC-Dub made a big deal out of it, he was on the front page of their website for a while.
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Post by 2 time pro bowler Fred Dryer on Jul 17, 2014 16:29:34 GMT -5
If I remember correctly his opponent was Big Sal E Graziano, which to me seems absolutely mental. I also remember that it was a (literal) squash match with Hall just falling within seconds to his finisher. EC-Dub made a big deal out of it, he was on the front page of their website for a while. From OWW: November 10, 2000 – ECW: Scott Hall and Jerry Lynn defeated Justin Credible and Rhino. November 11, 2000 – ECW: Sal E. Graziano defeated Scott Hall. Scott Hall defeated Justin Credible.
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Post by weaselboy on Jul 17, 2014 16:34:57 GMT -5
If I remember correctly his opponent was Big Sal E Graziano, which to me seems absolutely mental. I also remember that it was a (literal) squash match with Hall just falling within seconds to his finisher. EC-Dub made a big deal out of it, he was on the front page of their website for a while. From OWW: November 10, 2000 – ECW: Scott Hall and Jerry Lynn defeated Justin Credible and Rhino. November 11, 2000 – ECW: Sal E. Graziano defeated Scott Hall. Scott Hall defeated Justin Credible. Wow that is even more crazy! Why would you bring in a big name, have hime lose to a morbidly obese non-wrestler, then have him beat the recent former World Champion on the same show!
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Jul 17, 2014 18:09:23 GMT -5
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Scott Hall's ECW debut at the house show in Schenectady, NY.
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Post by TGM on Jul 17, 2014 18:12:04 GMT -5
God I hated Scott Hall's white "blood" costume. Was it some kind of rib?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2014 18:45:49 GMT -5
God I hated Scott Hall's white "blood" costume. Was it some kind of rib? I liked it. When you saw the black and white you knew that Scott Hall was coming.
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Post by Ashy Larry on Jul 17, 2014 18:56:41 GMT -5
There are two sides to that story, I remember hearing that Hall walked off giving a "whatever" look after Shane tried to mouth off to him. Shane was already a hypocrite by then (taking shots at WCW despite being a part of the company that year and bashing Flair despite Flair putting him over). Candido was a good guy (God rest his soul), but he wasn't very stand-up-ish since he let Tammy sleep with other wrestlers. Nash threw ECW under the bus numerous times afterward in shoot interviews saying they had no impact, despite having the highest ppv buyrates for their reunion show in 2005.
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Post by agent817 on Jul 17, 2014 19:38:45 GMT -5
God I hated Scott Hall's white "blood" costume. Was it some kind of rib? I had always thought that the white blood tights were supposed to go with how he represented the "nWo Black & White" and had to wear the right flags despite still having his red and black tights before that. I sometimes crack up at how the whole nWo thing acted like it was a gang thing and had to have the right colors, even though Curt Hennig still wore his neon blue or orange singlets from time to time. Pardon if I derailed the topic a bit.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Jul 17, 2014 20:35:53 GMT -5
Is it true that Shane Douglas and Candido kicked him out of the lockerroom? They're not tough guys, and I get the impression ol Scott is not one to be f***ed with. Supposedly, but that was several months earlier. Basically Hall was either gone from WCW or on one of his many "breaks" he had with them in the later years. Douglas talked about it on one of the DVD's he put out during his Hardcore Homecoming tour a few years back. Despite trying to portray himself as the great hero of the story, Douglas just made himself sound like a total dick throughout. Basically they were doing a show near where Hall lived (I think it was Florida) and he met up with Justin Credible to just hang out. Credible asked if Hall wanted to go to the show, and Hall said sure but was worried about the heat he might have with some of the guys (like Douglas). So Credible talked to Tommy Dreamer if it would be ok if Scott Hall came to the show and hung out backstage. Dreamer, not being a total dick, didn't see a problem and said sure. This got back to Shane Douglas who threw a fit over it. Hall and Credible got to the arena, White Castle burgers in hand supposedly, and were immediately greeted by Douglas, Candido, Bigelow and Tracey Smothers. Hall tried to be amiable and make amends, but Douglas didn't want to hear it and basically tore into him before telling him to leave, which Hall did without further incident. A couple of months later, after Douglas had left for WCW, Hall returned to ECW to work those two shows for a weekend. He made a tentative agreement to work more, but his demons basically put the kibosh on that before that had a chance to go anywhere.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 17, 2014 20:40:31 GMT -5
There are two sides to that story, I remember hearing that Hall walked off giving a "whatever" look after Shane tried to mouth off to him. Shane was already a hypocrite by then (taking shots at WCW despite being a part of the company that year and bashing Flair despite Flair putting him over). Candido was a good guy (God rest his soul), but he wasn't very stand-up-ish since he let Tammy sleep with other wrestlers. Nash threw ECW under the bus numerous times afterward in shoot interviews saying they had no impact, despite having the highest ppv buyrates for their reunion show in 2005. To be fair, Tammy was/is an adult woman and can make her own decisions, however poor they often have been. Besides, it's honestly pretty possible he was just a cuckold and didn't have an issue with it.
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