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Post by Muskrat on Jul 22, 2014 10:31:38 GMT -5
I've been a mark for Brock since I first saw him at a house show in Winnipeg in 2001, it was his first match on the road with WWE. Can't wait to see him get the belt again
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 10:33:17 GMT -5
I love the fact that Brock probably got paid a couple of hundred thousand to stand in the ring and hop around.
Kick all of their asses, Brock!
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Post by abjordans on Jul 22, 2014 11:13:06 GMT -5
This doesn't even work anymore since technically I was sold Summerslam back in Feb. when I subscribed to WWE Network and I don't know how to cancel my subscription even if I wanted to...
But...
Paul Heyman sold me Summerslam last night. That is how it is done.
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Post by Rican on Jul 22, 2014 12:15:16 GMT -5
Ever since he ended the streak he's been like this shadow looming over the WWE to inevitably return and bring doom to all. Him just standing there last night while Heyman sang his praises made him seem like a f***ing god of destruction and it was awesome. ALL HAIL THE CONQUEROR.
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Post by Kiaraa on Jul 22, 2014 13:01:09 GMT -5
Please, Brock makes his once every two month appearance on Raw *Yawn* boooorriiinnnngggggg!! Just like him in the ring - boring and pedestrian. You can tell he has no passion whatsoever, he's just there to collect a paycheck. There's NO way he wins at Summer Slam because that would entail having to make an actual commitment to being on Raw more often, oh wait, he could just keep sending Paul Heyman out to speak for him and then he could make his one appearance on Raw, jump around on his feet, mean mug the camera, grunt a bit then let Heyman talk and go to the back but really is that what being the champion is about? Isn't it about SO much more and being an ambassador for the company, the "face" of it if you will? Lesnar won't let anything change the schedule he has worked out in his contract and that schedule isn't enough appearances and face time for a champion so I think he loses at Summer Slam.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 22, 2014 13:07:22 GMT -5
A champion who only wrestles on PPVs and ONLY appears one or two times a month is my ideal scenario. I'm sure some of you remember my rants about how world champions shouldn't be on TV more than lower midcarders as it makes them seem far too normal/unimportant/without prestige.
You should NOT be having your world champion appearing more than midcard champions, the midcard belts are the TV titles, and the World Titles should be the draw for PPV events.
If your world champion doesn't feel like a special attraction then you have the wrong build for superstars.
That's why I liked The Rock as champion, he didn't turn up all the time, he felt larger than life and got ovations whenever he did appear. Same as Brock gets. Your World Champion should NOT be on TV every week, they should NOT feel like a high brand version of a Kofi Kingston or Dolph Ziggler. The World Championship needs prestige by only being seen/defended on shows you HAVE to pay to see.
I'm looking forward to it, I just hope the WWE keeps the notion of the World Title being defended on PPV for every champion in future. It'll stop champions getting injured so much in real life, it will give them longevity on TV and in health, and it'll make them bigger attractions.
Also, I hope the person who beats him is a fan favourite, you should only make people with the best reactions the champion. Don't settle for second best, park that title on the biggest draw/best performer until someone better appears to take their throne.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 22, 2014 15:06:15 GMT -5
Please, Brock makes his once every two month appearance on Raw *Yawn* boooorriiinnnngggggg!! Just like him in the ring - boring and pedestrian. You can tell he has no passion whatsoever, he's just there to collect a paycheck. There's NO way he wins at Summer Slam because that would entail having to make an actual commitment to being on Raw more often, oh wait, he could just keep sending Paul Heyman out to speak for him and then he could make his one appearance on Raw, jump around on his feet, mean mug the camera, grunt a bit then let Heyman talk and go to the back but really is that what being the champion is about? Isn't it about SO much more and being an ambassador for the company, the "face" of it if you will? Lesnar won't let anything change the schedule he has worked out in his contract and that schedule isn't enough appearances and face time for a champion so I think he loses at Summer Slam. I don't care about the face of the company stuff. Him being boring and pedestrian in the ring--well boring is subjective, the pedestrian part just ain't true. I don't care about the passion for THIS BUSINESS! If anything, he's a whole lot smarter that he is doing it for the paycheck. So long as he brings the awesome, and he does, he can demand they pay him in straight cash immediately for all I care. Brock Lesnar is awesome.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 23, 2014 3:23:00 GMT -5
Please, Brock makes his once every two month appearance on Raw *Yawn* boooorriiinnnngggggg!! Just like him in the ring - boring and pedestrian. You can tell he has no passion whatsoever, he's just there to collect a paycheck. There's NO way he wins at Summer Slam because that would entail having to make an actual commitment to being on Raw more often, oh wait, he could just keep sending Paul Heyman out to speak for him and then he could make his one appearance on Raw, jump around on his feet, mean mug the camera, grunt a bit then let Heyman talk and go to the back but really is that what being the champion is about? Isn't it about SO much more and being an ambassador for the company, the "face" of it if you will? Lesnar won't let anything change the schedule he has worked out in his contract and that schedule isn't enough appearances and face time for a champion so I think he loses at Summer Slam. Some of this is opinion based but saying he's pedestrian is flat out untrue. Whether you appreciate the quality of his matches lately (and they've not all been great, but that's largely been out of his hands given Big Show was injured, Triple H for some reason booked him as a chickenshit heel and Taker got a concussion) he has done some insane stuff and his matches are always something different to what else is on the show because of the UFC elements he brings in.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 23, 2014 3:41:08 GMT -5
Please, Brock makes his once every two month appearance on Raw *Yawn* boooorriiinnnngggggg!! Just like him in the ring - boring and pedestrian. You can tell he has no passion whatsoever, he's just there to collect a paycheck. There's NO way he wins at Summer Slam because that would entail having to make an actual commitment to being on Raw more often, oh wait, he could just keep sending Paul Heyman out to speak for him and then he could make his one appearance on Raw, jump around on his feet, mean mug the camera, grunt a bit then let Heyman talk and go to the back but really is that what being the champion is about? Isn't it about SO much more and being an ambassador for the company, the "face" of it if you will? Lesnar won't let anything change the schedule he has worked out in his contract and that schedule isn't enough appearances and face time for a champion so I think he loses at Summer Slam. Some of this is opinion based but saying he's pedestrian is flat out untrue. Whether you appreciate the quality of his matches lately (and they've not all been great, but that's largely been out of his hands given Big Show was injured, Triple H for some reason booked him as a chickenshit heel and Taker got a concussion) he has done some insane stuff and his matches are always something different to what else is on the show because of the UFC elements he brings in. Indeed. The Extreme Rules match vs. Cena was fantastic, despite the result, and the match with Punk was even better. Brock vs. Cena will be great.
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Jul 23, 2014 6:08:56 GMT -5
Some of this is opinion based but saying he's pedestrian is flat out untrue. Whether you appreciate the quality of his matches lately (and they've not all been great, but that's largely been out of his hands given Big Show was injured, Triple H for some reason booked him as a chickenshit heel and Taker got a concussion) he has done some insane stuff and his matches are always something different to what else is on the show because of the UFC elements he brings in. Indeed. The Extreme Rules match vs. Cena was fantastic, despite the result, and the match with Punk was even better. Brock vs. Cena will be great. But it's not even about quality, that can be subjective - saying that spots like the spinebuster on the stairs, Brock throwing himself at Cena on the apron like a human missile, the way Cena bled like a stuck pig, the way the Punk match went all over the ringside area; that isn't pedestrian, at least not by WWE standards.
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Post by King Devitt on Jul 25, 2014 23:38:38 GMT -5
I'm a Brock Lesnar guy. Always have been. And that last segment, and Heyman's fantastic promo cemented that even further. Go forth mighty Smiter, Streak Conqueror, all around Badass Brock. Bring us the head of John Cena. Bring us his world title! yes! yes! a million times yes!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 0:46:17 GMT -5
So how pissed will people be if Cena wins
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 1:42:47 GMT -5
So how pissed will people be if Cena wins Quite a few, but I think the bigger problem would be that it'd remind people buying the Network you're getting the same old shit in the main event and if you renew you'd be receiving that month after month until Wrestlemania 31. Outrage isn't the thing to fear for the WWE right now, it's people not caring due to the product going downhill since April in most regards. Some bright spots, sure, but for every great Shield member build, there's Cesaro being ruined, Bryan having to take an indefinite amount of time off, diminishing returns of older stars (RVD/Jericho) and Cena/Orton/Kane being the MAIN EVENT SCENE. So Brock is important solely to shake things up in the main event scene, gives more time to other feuds on TV, takes Cena away from the title which he should NEVER go near again -he's too big for it and just diminishes the value of the belt as it's like he doesn't give a toss about it with him feeling disingenuous- AND lest we forget that Brock Lesnar is a bigger name than Cena. The bigger name should have the belt 90% of the time, Cena's not that guy any more.
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Post by Amazing Kitsune on Jul 26, 2014 2:17:08 GMT -5
All hail the Beast Incarnate!
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Post by Slingshot Suplay on Jul 26, 2014 10:15:39 GMT -5
I enjoyed that time he threw a sofa at Miz.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Jul 26, 2014 11:06:16 GMT -5
I enjoyed that time he threw a sofa at Miz. I think we all did.
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Post by Jiren on Jul 26, 2014 11:53:56 GMT -5
A champion who only wrestles on PPVs and ONLY appears one or two times a month is my ideal scenario. I'm sure some of you remember my rants about how world champions shouldn't be on TV more than lower midcarders as it makes them seem far too normal/unimportant/without prestige. You should NOT be having your world champion appearing more than midcard champions, the midcard belts are the TV titles, and the World Titles should be the draw for PPV events. If your world champion doesn't feel like a special attraction then you have the wrong build for superstars. That's why I liked The Rock as champion, he didn't turn up all the time, he felt larger than life and got ovations whenever he did appear. Same as Brock gets. Your World Champion should NOT be on TV every week, they should NOT feel like a high brand version of a Kofi Kingston or Dolph Ziggler. The World Championship needs prestige by only being seen/defended on shows you HAVE to pay to see. I'm looking forward to it, I just hope the WWE keeps the notion of the World Title being defended on PPV for every champion in future. It'll stop champions getting injured so much in real life, it will give them longevity on TV and in health, and it'll make them bigger attractions. Also, I hope the person who beats him is a fan favourite, you should only make people with the best reactions the champion. Don't settle for second best, park that title on the biggest draw/best performer until someone better appears to take their throne. Have RAW/SD focus on building Midcard/Tag/Divas divisions, If the Champ is on RAW/SD then have it be in as hype capacity ONLY Sort the damn things out first, Who challenges for what. I hate this Willy Nilly attitude to titles currently going on
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