The Curse of Wrestlemania 30...

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

I have been thinking about this for so long. And with every passing RAW, it continues to build and build. I really think that since Wrestlemania 30, the event where we all said "THE WWE IS CHANGING FOR THE BETTER!" ...We have been on a slippery slope, that we can NOT escape from. I'll now look at some of the downturns I have seen since WrestleMania 30... 

PLEASE KEEP IN MIND THERE ARE MY PERSONAL OPINIONS AND MAY NOT REFLECT YOURS BUT I DO KNOW THAT I AM NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO SHARES THESE SENTIMENTS. WITH THIS IN MIND, I BEGIN. 

Daniel Bryan won the Title. Surely, a Triumphant reign was in store after all of his hard work, dedication, and more. Instead, we got a very bad feud with Kane, and then he got hurt so badly that we don't know when he will be back. And even if he HADN'T been injured, his feud with Kane would have CONTINUED. So he had to surrender the title, and now... for the 15th time, Cena has it... Now Bryan can't help an injury, but since I'm going by Curse Law here, it matters. I'm sure it's a real thing. As for Cena holding the belt, I'm not really upset about that, I'm more upset that this guys has held the belt 15 times in a 10 year career, remembering distinctly he went a full year without holding it in mind... but Lesnar's probably hopefully going to kill him, so the less of a Cena Title Reign we get, the better...  

Intercontinental Title. Coming off a wave of momentum from WrestleMania 30, Bad News would win the Intercontinental Title, and go on to get more and more over wherever he seemed to go... only to get a Shoulder Injury, have to give up the title, and give it to a Miz, who had only been back for two weeks, in a Battle Royal. Miz's character just is not clicking with live crowds. I know the point is he is supposed to be a delusional movie star that we aren't supposed to care about, but with that should come booing, or support for the fact that we do hate this guy, but Miz just gets as much of a reaction as Del Rio gets anymore, meaning nothing...  

The US Title... Ambrose lost it in a Battle Royal to Sheamus, who doesn't need it, doesn't do anything with it, and frankly is only holding it so he can say "I GOT A TITLE FELLA! I'M IMPORTANT!" basically keeping it in the same obscurity it has been in for what feels like years now. Coming out of WrestleMania 30 the Champions were Bryan, Ambrose, and later Barrett. Now they are Cena, Sheamus, and Miz... I feel like we've gone back in time in the worst way...

Divas Title. Paige won in a shocker after WrestleMania, after AJ retained. AJ just straight up disappears, and Paige despite coming in hot with the crowd, died out quickly due to meaningless feuds and because of the stagnant character she'd been given. On top of that, the fact she had to fight Alicia Fox like 10 times. She stayed in Transitional Champion Purgatory, until AJ eventually came back and won it in a second. One stupid friendship storyline coupled with Sloppy Match with an obvious turn into a blood feud later, we have HOPEFULLY, what will be Paige's hope to get Management off of her back. I could also go into the fact that Eva Marie, Cameron, and Rosa Mendes also exist in the Divas Division but this is long enough right?

Cesaro... oh god, where do I even START, with Cesaro? He won the Battle Royal at Mania, when he was his most over in terms of a FACE reaction, he dumped Zeb, and joined ANOTHER heel manager coming off maybe the most HEEL thing you could ever do, ending Takers Streak in Paul Heyman. This resulted in Cesaro's reaction dying in confusion, feuds which went nowhere with Van Dam, no longer using the Giant Swing which got him a large chunk of his reaction, and OF COURSE, changing his theme. Cesaro has gone from a main eventer, to a lost in the shuffle midcarder, and it all could have been avoided if someone in the back had the tiniest of common sense. From a man who seemed aimed to face Lesnar, to a Kissass of anyone who will take him as Paul Heyman dropped him offscreen. Did I mention Swagger now has all the reaction Cesaro used to have and Cesaro now has the reactions Swagger used to have? What Twilight Zone IS THIS??

Adam Rose. I love Bo Dallas and I was willing to give Adam Rose a chance, but his shtick has gotten so stale, and so old. There are only so many matches I can take where the same thing is happening, the same promos and "I HATE BUNNIES MAGGLE!" are happening, and so any pointless ad shills during WWE Programming I can take. Adam Rose used to be Leo Kruger. I would have rather seen Leo Kruger. Adam Rose I said from the beginning would go nowhere and it looks like I am being proven right. He is nothing but Midcard at best and he's losing any momentum he had at the beginning. I know I sound like a Lemon, but with so many more talented guys in NXT that have been down there long enough like SAMI ZAYN, Rose just feels like a huge waste of time. 

In WrestleMania 30, we had Corporate Kane get his ass kicked by the now defunct Shield (Who believe it or not, none of them are on this list, as I believe all three are some of the brightest spots right now, especially Ambrose) in less than 5 minutes. This then resulted in Kane donning the mask, and main-eventing in a match for thee title, THREE TIMES, in 2014. Look, I know Kanes a part of the storyline, but I know I'm not alone in saying that Kane has really lost his edge. And the fact he is being used over other talent that could be utilized is just baffling to some, again, especially because of how he was portrayed, at WrestleMania 30. The phrase "Ugh, Kane" might as well be more trademarked than THE DEMON KANE at this point.

Bray Wyatt and The Wyatts seem to be stuck in an endless limbo which they can not escape. For Rowan and Harper it is almost winning the tag titles, and despite deserving it NEVER WINNING THE TAG TITLES. Over and over, despite the fact these guys work so well together, the result in the end is always the same, Usos win, Wyatts lose. Bray after concluding his abysmal feud with Cena, has now started a feud with Jericho where he lost to the Codebreaker. Can I say I don't mind Bray losing but I wish he would have lost in a better way, like maybe passing out to the Walls, or something... just not a Codebreaker, which has been a setup move since like 2011, just end Bray right there. Harper and Rowan at least had to have everything thrown at them to lose at Battleground, Bray just seemed to go right down with a Whimper. Bray and Harper are two guys who could be fighting for a world title, but aren't. Rowan's ok, but I don't think the World Title is for him right now. A feud with Sheamus for the US Title? Why not, they seem to be Bizarro Brothers anyway. I just want to see the Wyatts start winning again, it's quite frustrating to see a dominant faction like them keep losing like they do when something Career Altering is at stake. I know some people are down on Wyatt. but I'm not, I love the guy, and as I said before this is my personal list of things I think going wrong so you can feel free to disagree.

Drew McIntyre and Jinder Mahal were released... speaks for itself. 3MB were awesome, they were like an even more Jobbed Out version of Too Cool and everyone was over on them being such a hokey group, inside hoping that at least Slater and McIntyre would eventually break out and get deserved singles runs, especially Drew. But in the end only Slater remains, and seems to not be going anywhere either, while the other two were fired and the world weeped. I can only assume that with Fernando Matador getting hurt they lost their storyline with them, but you could find something else. 3MB, even with Hornswaggle there, is entertaining, and to just see them let go so suddenly when some guys like Great Khali are still lumbering around and Alberto Del Rio who obviously is being paid more to get zero reaction, has zero drive or purpose, and is... Alberto Del Rio, are still there, also just perplexes me. They really emphasize the entertainment factor in the E, and 3MB were it, key word being were... LEAVE THE MEMORIES ALOOOOONE       
 

However with Zack Ryder winning on RAW, I feel like things are finally starting to turn around! Right FAN? ...The Curse is lifted? ...Woo Woo Woo?

...I'll go to my corner now... Agree/Disagree? Have qualms of your own? I just feel like ever Since WrestleMania 30, so much that could have happened, didn't, and some things got worse. Now NOT EVERYTHING IS BAD But not everything has been good... so discuss, have fun. Don't kill me for my opinion... ?   

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

I see nothing wrong with Miz and Sheamus having the belts. I'm interested in the idea of them having a unification match. Two "names" feuding for the titles is exactly what they've needed this whole time.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jul 25, 2014 7:08:03 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

I see nothing wrong with Miz and Sheamus having the belts. I'm interested in the idea of them having a unification match. Two "names" feuding for the titles is exactly what they've needed this whole time.

Well I expect the Miz Love from you Catch_Us but if I'm frank I'd rather see Ziggler vs Sheamus in a Unification Match if I'm forced to have Sheamus still hold that belt.

I just think both are beyond those belts, at least Sheamus is beyond the US Title at this point. I'd rather see Sheamus in the main event title picture than Kane. But I'd rather see a Stick than Kane at this point anywhere near the world title...  

As for Miz, I would have loved to see him in the Jericho/Wyatt feud, make it a really crazy three way feud. Add a lot more depth to it I think, yes, even Miz who I don't really like could have added something to that. It's where he was being established anyway, he just sort of WON the IC Belt with no build and that's my problem with it as well, and I think that's a big reason Miz is getting ZERO REACTION. He should have gone to a feud where he could belong more than just straight back winning a belt from other guys who deserve it more. Yes someone beating Miz for it could give them a big pop because a lot of people hate Miz, but to me the longer Miz holds the blt with NO reaction from live crowds, the more it hurts.  

And considering Sheamus isn't getting much of a reaction these days either (It depends on the city), a Match between him and Miz isn't something wanted by a lot of people... I'd rather see Miz arrogantly lose it to a newcomer than feud with Sheamus. If this ends with Miz dropping the belt to Sami Zayn or someone of that NXT Calibur, I will be perfectly content with it. Ziggler will also work but the way Zigglers going I don't see him winning it... 

[Johnny]

Currently, wwe is all about the Shield transitioning into main event singles guys. And i want to see it as it happens. I want to enjoy the shows, so I look for the good, not the bad.

[the2ndevil]

Sheamus' reign has done a lot more for the US title than Ambrose's.

Not only is he defending it more frequently, but the matches has been outstandingly good, especially the Last Man Standing match against Del Rio on Main Event a few weeks back.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jul 25, 2014 7:21:08 GMT -5 the2ndevil said:

Sheamus' reign has done a lot more for the US title than Ambrose's.

Not only is he defending it more frequently, but the matches has been outstandingly good, especially the Last Man Standing match against Del Rio on Main Event a few weeks back.

Oh that's another problem I have

RAW.

Why not show a match of that Calibur where they know the vast majority will watch it? Why not have that match at Battleground? A Last Man Standing Match on Main Event?? That perplexes me. If RAW dedicated more of their Three Hours to matches like those, maybe people would get more up on Sheamus and Del Rio

But since everyone doesn't have the Network and/or watch Main Event, they don't see this match, they aren't persuaded into seeing that hey, Sheamus and Del Rio are looking better, instead, we just see them as dull, because matches that should be happening on the more globally viewable scale, aren't. 

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jul 25, 2014 7:20:26 GMT -5 Johnny said:

Currently, wwe is all about the Shield transitioning into main event singles guys. And i want to see it as it happens. I want to enjoy the shows, so I look for the good, not the bad.

Hey I said that Reigns, Ambrose, and Rollins were some of the best spots in WWE Right Now

I try and look for the good but a lot of bad is there so sift through... to me. Some people are bugged by crap like this, like the booking, the direction of stars, etc. If you are not, fine, enjoy the show, but please know I also really want to see all three succeed, especially Ambrose, he's a star, even more so than Reigns who they are basically shoving up our asses.

[the2ndevil]

Jul 25, 2014 7:24:16 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Jul 25, 2014 7:21:08 GMT -5 the2ndevil said:

Sheamus' reign has done a lot more for the US title than Ambrose's.

Not only is he defending it more frequently, but the matches has been outstandingly good, especially the Last Man Standing match against Del Rio on Main Event a few weeks back.

Oh that's another problem I have

RAW.

Why not show a match of that Calibur where they know the vast majority will watch it? Why not have that match at Battleground? A Last Man Standing Match on Main Event?? That perplexes me. If RAW dedicated more of their Three Hours to matches like those, maybe people would get more up on Sheamus and Del Rio

But since everyone doesn't have the Network and/or watch Main Event, they don't see this match, they aren't persuaded into seeing that hey, Sheamus and Del Rio are looking better, instead, we just see them as dull, because matches that should be happening on the more globally viewable scale, aren't. 

This one, I kinda give a pass to, because it was during the trial period for the Network where you don't need to enter any credit card information as a way to entice people into getting the network.

That match probably should have been on PPV, however.

[Johnny]

Jul 25, 2014 7:24:16 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

]Why not show a match of that Calibur where they know the vast majority will watch it? Why not have that match at Battleground? A Last Man Standing Match on Main Event?? That perplexes me. If RAW dedicated more of their Three Hours to matches like those, maybe people would get more up on Sheamus and Del Rio
But since everyone doesn't have the Network and/or watch Main Event, they don't see this match, they aren't persuaded into seeing that hey, Sheamus and Del Rio are looking better, instead, we just see them as dull, because matches that should be happening on the more globally viewable scale, aren't. 

Because they're trying to have ppv caliber matches on Network exclusive shows? It's more financially rewarding to get the Network over than 2 wrestlers.

[Professor Chaos]

I feel like WWE surprisingly peaked at WM30. Lesnar gives me hope that they fix it.

[Johnny]

Jul 25, 2014 7:28:33 GMT -5 Professor Chaos said:

I feel like WWE surprisingly peaked at WM30. Lesnar gives me hope that they fix it.

wwe peak at wrestlemania every year. why is it surprising?

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jul 25, 2014 7:27:32 GMT -5 Johnny said:

Jul 25, 2014 7:24:16 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

]Why not show a match of that Calibur where they know the vast majority will watch it? Why not have that match at Battleground? A Last Man Standing Match on Main Event?? That perplexes me. If RAW dedicated more of their Three Hours to matches like those, maybe people would get more up on Sheamus and Del Rio
But since everyone doesn't have the Network and/or watch Main Event, they don't see this match, they aren't persuaded into seeing that hey, Sheamus and Del Rio are looking better, instead, we just see them as dull, because matches that should be happening on the more globally viewable scale, aren't. 

Because they're trying to have ppv caliber matches on Network exclusive shows? It's more financially rewarding to get the Network over than 2 wrestlers.

I admit they need to sell the product yes, the numbers are down, they need people to buy the Network and show that it's awesome

But truthfully, yes, they need to get Sheamus and Del Rio over on a Global Scale. If they showed them both having an all out Last Man Standing on a PPV, or RAW, it could be much better than them having it on the Network.

Considering how down people are on Sheamus and Del Rio, and how they are placed in cards, yes, they need to show, to as many people as possible, you should care.

A regular Sheamus/Del Rio match is main event caliber, what bugs me is it was a Last Man Standing, which is usually a big deal match, like PPV Quality... so yeah. 

[Johnny]

Jul 25, 2014 7:25:54 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Jul 25, 2014 7:20:26 GMT -5 Johnny said:

Currently, wwe is all about the Shield transitioning into main event singles guys. And i want to see it as it happens. I want to enjoy the shows, so I look for the good, not the bad.

Hey I said that Reigns, Ambrose, and Rollins were some of the best spots in WWE Right Now

I try and look for the good but a lot of bad is there so sift through... to me. Some people are bugged by crap like this, like the booking, the direction of stars, etc. If you are not, fine, enjoy the show, but please know I also really want to see all three succeed, especially Ambrose, he's a star, even more so than Reigns who they are basically shoving up our asses.

i'll re-emphasise:

Currently, wwe is ALL about the Shield transitioning.

They realised they relied on too few top top guys (punk walking out helped them with this). This year is all about addressing that issue.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jul 25, 2014 7:31:34 GMT -5 Johnny said:

Jul 25, 2014 7:25:54 GMT -5 Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] said:

Hey I said that Reigns, Ambrose, and Rollins were some of the best spots in WWE Right Now

I try and look for the good but a lot of bad is there so sift through... to me. Some people are bugged by crap like this, like the booking, the direction of stars, etc. If you are not, fine, enjoy the show, but please know I also really want to see all three succeed, especially Ambrose, he's a star, even more so than Reigns who they are basically shoving up our asses.

i'll re-emphasise:

Currently, wwe is ALL about the Shield transitioning.

They realised they relied on too few top top guys (punk walking out helped them with this). This year is all about addressing that issue.

Yeah Punk walking out, on top of the Injuries mounting, they are really hoping The Shield all pay off, and so am I. I hoe they do, and I hope that the crop they have in NXT only helps in the future, and with the acquisition of Kenta as well. WWE has a lot of hope, a lot of it. How they deal with it is another monster altogether that we'll have to just sit back and watch.

[Professor Chaos]

Jul 25, 2014 7:28:33 GMT -5 Professor Chaos said:

I feel like WWE surprisingly peaked at WM30. Lesnar gives me hope that they fix it.

I thought all of them since 20 sucked except 28.

[CATCH_US IS the Conversation]

WWE should be addressing having strong and over performers from top to bottom as opposed to just how many "top" guys they have.

[ninjachick]

Why does someone supposedly not getting a reaction have to do with anything? Del Rio is more marketable and valuable to the wwe than freakin' jinder Mahal and Drew McIntyre. You also have no clue about his "drive" I've noticed that he's been looking quite buffer recently and he's STILL putting out great matches.

As for Sheamus. I completely disagree. Sheamus gets a title and treats it like his child, like he would die for it. When's the last time if ever, that we've gotten a LMS standing match for the U.S. title?!! He's done more with that title than Cesaro, Kofi and Ambrose combined.

The Miz is entertaining as hell right now. I love his don't hurt my pretty face gimmick. Even after he lost to Ziggler he was more concerned with his face than the loss. At least Miz has something which can't be said for 80% of the roster.

Cesaro needs to go back to swinging people. THAT'S what got him over because it for damn sure wasn't his charisma...which he doesn't have.

Love BNB and I hope he can still get a big push upon his return.

[Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-]]

Jul 25, 2014 7:39:50 GMT -5 ninjachick said:

Why does someone supposedly not getting a reaction have to do with anything? Del Rio is more marketable and valuable to the wwe than freakin' jinder Mahal and Drew McIntyre. You also have no clue about his "drive" I've noticed that he's been looking quite buffer recently and he's STILL putting out great matches.

As for Sheamus. I completely disagree. Sheamus gets a title and treats it like his child, like he would die for it. When's the last time if ever, that we've gotten a LMS standing match for the U.S. title?!! He's done more with that title than Cesaro, Kofi and Ambrose combined.

The Miz is entertaining as hell right now. I love his don't hurt my pretty face gimmick. Even after he lost to Ziggler he was more concerned with his face than the loss. At least Miz has something which can't be said for 80% of the roster.

My problem is that with zero reaction, guys like Del Rio and Miz aren't shown as good heels. When you're a good heel, you're BOOED, you get heat, people want to hate you. When you get no reaction, that means people do not care enough to boo, which is bad. What I meant by "Drive" in terms of Del Rio, is that I want to see him DO SOMETHING other than exist. Remember when he about killed Ziggler? Stuff like that is what made me care about Del Rio, now it just seems like he's there, I know he's marketable, I KNOW he can wrestle... but currently he just seems to be in no mans land

Again my problem with Miz as stated was I think that him winning the title like he did was just so out of nowhere it's disappointed people. I would have rather Miz three way feud with Wyatt and Jericho. HOWEVER, as I said, if it leads to him losing to a young up and comer which could put them immediately over? I'm down with that.

I guess my problem is the U.S. Title just doesn't seem to be taken seriously anymore. It's always defended on shows where not everyone is watching, and not on Pay Per Views. I know Sheamus can be a credible champion, and whoever beats him for it, it will be an established win for that person, I just wish WWE would put more of an emphasis on the title itself instead of "Sheamus want's to unift the belts!" like at Battleground, which puts even LESS of a focus on the U.S. Belt he currently owns. I still say screw the U.S. Title and rebirth the Cruiserweight Belt and that would help fix quite a few undercard problems, but for now a little emphasis on the U.S. Title on RAW/PPV would do wonders I think.   

[Wolfman Rose]

Jul 25, 2014 7:38:02 GMT -5 CATCH_US IS the Conversation said:

WWE should be addressing having strong and over performers from top to bottom as opposed to just how many "top" guys they have.

Top guys sell the tickets, so that's the priority.

[ededdneddy]

They didn't bother to have Wrestlemania 30 at Madison Square Garden. They upsetted the wrestling gods and went for voodoo and hoodoo over tradition. Who knows maybe that voodoo dance at the beginning of Brays entrance placed a curse on them or maybe that dance was a curse dance and we never knew it.