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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 29, 2014 8:43:13 GMT -5
Would Vince Mcmahon buy the TNA tape library if they go under?
There's no real downside to owning it as far as I can see.
Do you they would include brief inserts and clips of TNA in the likes of Hogan, Angles and Sting's future DVD releases?
Ie, they might entirely focus on Angle's WWE career but have one of his best TNA matches in there.
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Post by Sephiroth on Jul 29, 2014 8:44:44 GMT -5
I can see it happening for use on the Network, and also because I can picture WWE actually bringing back certain talent like the Dudleyz and Angle and wanting full access to everything they did in TNA for future DVD's and compilations
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 29, 2014 8:45:40 GMT -5
I wonder if they would find the TNA production quality and the silly 6 sided ring too 3rd rate.
I like some of TNA's product though.
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Post by Push R Truth on Jul 29, 2014 8:48:36 GMT -5
They'll buy the tape library. It will take a while for it to hit the network because Vince will have a pair of interns dub circus music over all the audio.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 29, 2014 8:55:43 GMT -5
While I don't want TNA to fold, I am a stickler for collecting everything and if TNA does indeed fold, then I want WWE to own the tape libraries. Just so they can use it. They don't even have to, but just to have the option. I like things being complete. WWE DVD's of Hogan showing everything he ever did from his Japan stuff to WWE, WCW and TNA
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 29, 2014 8:59:28 GMT -5
They'll buy the tape library. It will take a while for it to hit the network because Vince will have a pair of interns dub circus music over all the audio. So people will think the Menagerie were there for years!
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Jul 29, 2014 9:02:35 GMT -5
Probably not.
Unless he could get the tape library for pennies on the dollar. It'll probably sit like all the WCW footage they have that isn't on the network (WCW Saturday Night?).
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 29, 2014 9:15:53 GMT -5
Yes, and it will go for considerably more than WCW did because people know what it's worth to the WWE given how they need modern content for their network, and they won't be the only bidder for the library either given how many on demand services are looking for exclusive content.
Panda Energy are also a big enough company that they can afford to just sit on the TNA video library, music rights and trademarks until the right offer comes along, they're not short of money like the owners of other libraries the WWE have acquired and desperate to get shot of it and they certainly aren't going to accept pennies on the dollar unless they can talk the WWE into taking on all of the current and future liabilities they may face from their time running TNA.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Jul 29, 2014 9:28:41 GMT -5
True, I didn't really think of the network.
Of course they could put it on there.
I wonder how advertised it would be or if it would just be considered a small addition to the network for diehard fans
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Post by bluemeii on Jul 29, 2014 9:39:53 GMT -5
More than likely yeah it ends up with WWE. Going rate that's been established according to the "newz" is about 500 bucks an hour for wrestling tape libraries. I imagine TNA might be a bit more but there really wont be a big demand for out of business wrestling footage other than a company that would actually use it. With WWE content on Netflix don't see that happening, that leaves Amazon and Hulu. Would they sink a couple hundred grand or more on a tape library of a dead company?
Regarding Panda Energy. Panda doesn't own TNA, and legally they can't even give the impression that they do. TNA is owned by an LLC headed by the Carters, big difference. Doing it this way protects The Carters and Panda Energy from any debts accrued by TNA. If TNA dies, the creditors can't go after the Carters and Panda for money....unless they start doing things like diverting assets away from the LLC owned business to themselves. If it dies they are gonna unload every thing owned by TNA Entertainment LLC down to the ring mats to pay off debt so the courts wont see that Panda and the Carters "pierced the veil" when it came to assets.
So yeah, any contracts with TNA Entertainment LLC, gone. Broadcast deals, oh well. As long as it's not with Panda or the Carters you are basically SOL as long as they liquidate, so there wont be sitting on anything if they decide to close up shop. It's why this company and it's assets are worth nothing to the Carters if they lose TV.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Jul 29, 2014 10:08:52 GMT -5
It will be a sad day for this forum.
No more embedding Steiner promos like his take on History, or Math, or obesity... no more dangerous pits... and any number of things that I can't think of at the moment.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Jul 29, 2014 10:11:46 GMT -5
Eventually, no doubt. Collecting tape libraries is what WWE does. They'll buy it if for no other reason than so nobody else has it. If money starts getting tight because of the Network though, he'll probably wait a few years to buy it.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Jul 29, 2014 10:13:33 GMT -5
He's gonna buy it with the only purpose of bringing back "are you serious" and just bury the shit out of the product. #TNAruinseverything
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Post by Ryushinku on Jul 29, 2014 10:29:29 GMT -5
Absolutely he should, unless it's going for some astronomical fee and there's almost no chance of that.
A biiiiig chunk more content they can add to the Network is the main thing, along with being able to put out some DVDs and then being able to add on TNA era matches for guys like Angle or Sting and others.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 29, 2014 10:37:30 GMT -5
I don't think the value added would really be worth it.
All of Sting's most memorable stuff happened in WCW. Hogan's run in TNA was embarassing from the start. Angle's run was much more dignified, but it was mainly against guys the WWE audience has never heard of.
I mean, it'd be cool to have, just to have it I guess, but I don't really see how it would enhance any WWE's montages or really create any interesting DVDs for them to release.
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Post by joeiscool on Jul 29, 2014 11:38:21 GMT -5
Yes, and it will go for considerably more than WCW did because people know what it's worth to the WWE given how they need modern content for their network, and they won't be the only bidder for the library either given how many on demand services are looking for exclusive content. Panda Energy are also a big enough company that they can afford to just sit on the TNA video library, music rights and trademarks until the right offer comes along, they're not short of money like the owners of other libraries the WWE have acquired and desperate to get shot of it and they certainly aren't going to accept pennies on the dollar unless they can talk the WWE into taking on all of the current and future liabilities they may face from their time running TNA. there is really little value in owning old tna stuff after maybe 2 years from now. Unlike wcw they never made a real impact(pun). So with in two years there will be very little demand to see old TNA shows. If they are done the smartest thing to do is to sell the rights with in a year,because 2 years from now it's not going to be any good.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Jul 29, 2014 12:23:59 GMT -5
there is really little value in owning old tna stuff after maybe 2 years from now. Unlike wcw they never made a real impact(pun). So with in two years there will be very little demand to see old TNA shows. If they are done the smartest thing to do is to sell the rights with in a year,because 2 years from now it's not going to be any good. They have a larger fanbase worldwide than ECW ever did, they have hours of footage of guys the WWE either have, or will put into their hall of fame and that footage is fully catalogued, in good condition and it has been made with modern production values and unlike ECW and WCW, all they need to do to get the music rights if throw Dale Oliver a bone. TNA have been horribly mismanaged, but that doesn't mean there is no value there that the WWE could capitalise on, even if they don't put Impact and PPVs on the network they can quickly make their money back just by slicing up shows for matches for career retrospectives.
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Post by Pillman's Pencil on Jul 29, 2014 12:32:37 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett I'd imagine, it would give him a nice video library for his new promotion, should he bring in any TNA people.
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Post by Dragonfly on Jul 29, 2014 12:45:54 GMT -5
Jeff Jarrett I'd imagine, it would give him a nice video library for his new promotion, should he bring in any TNA people. Agreed. I'm convinced that Jeff and company has money set aside for this explicit purpose. I'm also convinced (and I honestly have no idea why) that Dixie will Jeff/GFW first crack at the rights.
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Post by ritt works hard fo da chickens on Jul 29, 2014 12:49:30 GMT -5
Perhaps eventually but let's not forget how much the Carter's overvalue TNA. Jerry Jarret and the Russians, Jeff Jarret and Toby Keith, and at least a few others have all put VERY reasonable bids in and were counter offered ridiculously.
I'd bet if it does it is with the caveat that Dixie gets a performers contract too. Which might just be awesomely train wreck worthy. It would be like Mike Adamle and Vicki Guerrero combined for crowd reactions.
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