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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Jul 29, 2014 12:50:35 GMT -5
If Vince McMahon wasn't hitting the budget cutter on many wrestlers and other areas of the WWE, pending this Thursday's totals, I don't see them buying TNA's video libraries anytime soon
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Post by Professor Chaos on Jul 29, 2014 12:56:26 GMT -5
In a simulcast on the last ever Impact the line on the contract does read McMahon, but Aurora Rose McMahon Levesque shows up in the Impact Zone and buys TNA with her piggy bank.
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Post by doinkmark on Jul 29, 2014 14:17:51 GMT -5
He absolutely should, stock hit or no. The TNA tape library alone gives the Network and video departments more footage to work with, WWE already has a developmental league and training facility in Florida where it could send a few TNA guys, and WWE owning more stuff might allow some folks on Wall Street to continue seeing WWE as a good investment. It would also give WWE (officially I mean) one less competitor in the US. Seems a no-lose situation for them.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 29, 2014 14:22:41 GMT -5
He doesn't need it.
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Post by Woo on Jul 29, 2014 14:51:12 GMT -5
He really should. If TNA goes onto the network I would sign up for it in a heartbeat.
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Post by Glitch on Jul 29, 2014 15:02:06 GMT -5
He would buy it if it were a cheap buy.
Should vince be the one to buy it? Hell no! As if we don't have enough revisionist history from the E. Plus I hate the furthering of vince owning all of wrestling.
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Post by Chip on Jul 29, 2014 15:06:50 GMT -5
No. There's no money to be made from it. He wouldn't make a profit.
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Post by Phil Parent on Jul 29, 2014 15:08:31 GMT -5
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Jul 29, 2014 15:49:31 GMT -5
Perhaps eventually but let's not forget how much the Carter's overvalue TNA. Jerry Jarret and the Russians, Jeff Jarret and Toby Keith, and at least a few others have all put VERY reasonable bids in and were counter offered ridiculously. I'd bet if it does it is with the caveat that Dixie gets a performers contract too. Which might just be awesomely train wreck worthy. It would be like Mike Adamle and Vicki Guerrero combined for crowd reactions. I'd be okay with Dixie as a performer as long as she's away from the business side.
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Post by Hit Girl on Jul 29, 2014 15:50:43 GMT -5
Dixie needs to be away from everything
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Post by Pillman's Pencil on Jul 29, 2014 15:57:44 GMT -5
Perhaps eventually but let's not forget how much the Carter's overvalue TNA. Jerry Jarret and the Russians, Jeff Jarret and Toby Keith, and at least a few others have all put VERY reasonable bids in and were counter offered ridiculously. I'd bet if it does it is with the caveat that Dixie gets a performers contract too. Which might just be awesomely train wreck worthy. It would be like Mike Adamle and Vicki Guerrero combined for crowd reactions. I'd be okay with Dixie as a performer as long as she's away from the business side. Without spoiling too much, at the NYC tapings, the impression was Dixie has been written off TV permanently.
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Post by Andy Martin on Jul 29, 2014 17:39:11 GMT -5
They'll buy the tape library. It will take a while for it to hit the network because Vince will have a pair of interns dub circus music over all the audio. So they're going to put the Menagerie theme over everything?
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Post by Mayonnaise on Jul 29, 2014 22:41:23 GMT -5
If Vince McMahon wasn't hitting the budget cutter on many wrestlers and other areas of the WWE, pending this Thursday's totals, I don't see them buying TNA's video libraries anytime soon Actually, I think purchasing TNA's library would be seen as a positive since it would add value to the Network, in theory drive more people to their brand and the Network (I don't think Wall Street would see it like we do thanks to WCW and ECW) and it becomes a one time cost rather than something that grows like talent.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 29, 2014 23:04:34 GMT -5
Over a long enough time, certainly. DVDs don't have to be based on just TNA footage. You can do a career retrospective DVD and include one TNA match. If that DVD sells enough, it pays off a huge chunk of the outlay. Looking over previous years sales figures, DVD sales vary from around 60,000 to 200,000. Complete Sting, Dudleys, Angle, Hardy, and Christian retrospectives featuring TNA footage would probably sell somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 copies. At $20 a copy, you're looking at potentially between $500,000-$1 million in sales. I'm sure there's plenty of TNA fans who don't have the Network who would be willing to put down a subscription to watch the glory years, especially if they weren't around to see it at the time.
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Post by sfvega on Jul 30, 2014 1:49:42 GMT -5
He should if it's cheap. Let's be honest, TNA's thing has never been paying customers. So why do you think TNA fans would fork over money to another company to see one they rarely (if ever) did pay for. The Network doesn't need TNA really. It'd be nice if they offered it (as someone who followed it for a long time) but they've got tons and tons of footage as is. They aren't hard-up for footage. Maybe they will be one day, but not soon. Not with their extensive tape library. As mentioned, they are trimming some fat lately too. Why add an expense that isn't easy money? Wait them out, buy it in 3-5 years. TNA isn't exactly in demand today, so wait and try and capitalize on nostalgia. That's what drives WCW with the E.
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Post by sfvega on Jul 30, 2014 2:06:53 GMT -5
Over a long enough time, certainly. DVDs don't have to be based on just TNA footage. You can do a career retrospective DVD and include one TNA match. If that DVD sells enough, it pays off a huge chunk of the outlay. Looking over previous years sales figures, DVD sales vary from around 60,000 to 200,000. Complete Sting, Dudleys, Angle, Hardy, and Christian retrospectives featuring TNA footage would probably sell somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 copies. At $20 a copy, you're looking at potentially between $500,000-$1 million in sales. I'm sure there's plenty of TNA fans who don't have the Network who would be willing to put down a subscription to watch the glory years, especially if they weren't around to see it at the time. WWE wouldn't "feature" TNA footage, so it's not really a big factor in making much money. They could do the same DVDs of the Dudleys, Sting, Hardy, Angle, and they'd sell roughly the same amount with or without the TNA work. The drawing power is with the name. And I enjoyed a lot of Angle's work with TNA, but people aren't going to pay for an Angle DVD for TNA footage.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2014 2:40:34 GMT -5
I think if TNA does die, WWE will absolutely buy the tape library, the name, and whatever other remnants they might need. Even if a lot of it isn't actually, y'know, good, WWE could still get a lot of mileage out of advertising Sting / Kurt Angle matches, or more Dudleys / Hardys matches, or whatever else that the average WWE fan hasn't seen but has immediate name value to it. Plus, TNA would be a huge boost to the Network library even if they just added the PPVs. Hell, especially if they also put their starting weekly ones on there.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Jul 30, 2014 2:53:17 GMT -5
Over a long enough time, certainly. DVDs don't have to be based on just TNA footage. You can do a career retrospective DVD and include one TNA match. If that DVD sells enough, it pays off a huge chunk of the outlay. Looking over previous years sales figures, DVD sales vary from around 60,000 to 200,000. Complete Sting, Dudleys, Angle, Hardy, and Christian retrospectives featuring TNA footage would probably sell somewhere between 50,000 and 100,000 copies. At $20 a copy, you're looking at potentially between $500,000-$1 million in sales. I'm sure there's plenty of TNA fans who don't have the Network who would be willing to put down a subscription to watch the glory years, especially if they weren't around to see it at the time. WWE wouldn't "feature" TNA footage, so it's not really a big factor in making much money. They could do the same DVDs of the Dudleys, Sting, Hardy, Angle, and they'd sell roughly the same amount with or without the TNA work. The drawing power is with the name. And I enjoyed a lot of Angle's work with TNA, but people aren't going to pay for an Angle DVD for TNA footage. Of course nobody's buying for the TNA footage alone, but that's how you make a profit out of it. WWE's career retrospectives have always been comprehensive, and the more footage they can lay their hands on the more they can milk it for. For example, the upcoming Sting set will probably sell like hotcakes, which will mean another set will be released in a couple of years; they buy TNA's tape library and they have another decade's worth of Sting matches they can pick from. Granted, a good portion of it isn't gonna be worthy of being included, but he has had some excellent matches in TNA. Same goes for Angle. When he eventually gets his DVD set, you know if the option is there he'd want at least one each of his matches with Joe and AJ on there. Even with the financial issues going on at the moment, $500k is a drop in the ocean for them.
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Post by sfvega on Jul 30, 2014 3:16:17 GMT -5
WWE wouldn't "feature" TNA footage, so it's not really a big factor in making much money. They could do the same DVDs of the Dudleys, Sting, Hardy, Angle, and they'd sell roughly the same amount with or without the TNA work. The drawing power is with the name. And I enjoyed a lot of Angle's work with TNA, but people aren't going to pay for an Angle DVD for TNA footage. Of course nobody's buying for the TNA footage alone, but that's how you make a profit out of it. WWE's career retrospectives have always been comprehensive, and the more footage they can lay their hands on the more they can milk it for. For example, the upcoming Sting set will probably sell like hotcakes, which will mean another set will be released in a couple of years; they buy TNA's tape library and they have another decade's worth of Sting matches they can pick from. Granted, a good portion of it isn't gonna be worthy of being included, but he has had some excellent matches in TNA. Same goes for Angle. When he eventually gets his DVD set, you know if the option is there he'd want at least one each of his matches with Joe and AJ on there. Even with the financial issues going on at the moment, $500k is a drop in the ocean for them. Yeah, but they can make the same product/profit with or without the TNA footage. I want them to buy the tape library, but it isn't going to make them money. Whether they take the hit on it or not, who knows? But they could easily argue against it at a not-so-cheap price, considering what they have cut back on.
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Post by Mozenrath on Jul 30, 2014 3:20:10 GMT -5
If the price is right, then certainly WWE would consider it. They buy up a lot of territory footage, especially if it has matches from known talents, and WWE will probably pick up some of the talent. If any of them are big successes, they'd probably be more than happy to have material for them.
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