keezy
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Post by keezy on Sept 5, 2014 4:09:45 GMT -5
I find it baffling and slightly alarming that they have given us no clue to how much we are going to pay or what their product actually consists of. On commentary they say it's $9.99 all over the world, "how much is the Network in Russia Maggul?", I don't know if it means UK will be like £6-7 or if it's 9.99 in all currency. They got some 'splainin to do.
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Eunös ✈
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Post by Eunös ✈ on Sept 5, 2014 4:52:08 GMT -5
According to XE.com
$9.99 is £6.12
I'm still not 100% if I'm going to get it or not yet,
I'm already paying for things like Netflix and Spotify plus I haven't watched A wrestling show since just after Wrestlemania.
Whilst the idea of classic WWF, WCW and ECW PPV's being available to watch anytime I want does sound appealing, I'm going to wait and see if its really worth it first.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 5, 2014 7:25:52 GMT -5
I think the lack of indication that sky are involved is a good sign. how? If the people who own the content rights in this country aren't involved I don't see where the positive is. If that's the case everything points to an archive-only Network. We're not getting the same deal as the US, all ppv's and NXT for $9.99 because Sky intend to keep on selling WWE events on Sky box office throughout the length of their new deal, we know that already. The WWE network done through Sky would be twice the price, would still not have all the content as they want to have things to keep people subscribing to Sky Sports when there's no football on, and would only be available through Sky devices and Now TV... People would rather have an archive service with PPVs on a few weeks delay than that.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 5, 2014 8:23:45 GMT -5
If the UK network is more expensive and cut down, expect the loophole closed once they officially launch the network. Sky place a lot of value on exclusivity and the WWE won't do anything that will jeopardise that relationship as they made out like bandits when their deal was renewed, any UK subscribers they get will be icing on the cake for them.
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DjZonk
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Post by DjZonk on Sept 5, 2014 8:38:56 GMT -5
Expecting the Brits to get even more of a raw deal than Canada.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Sept 5, 2014 9:43:45 GMT -5
If the UK network is more expensive and cut down, expect the loophole closed once they officially launch the network. Sky place a lot of value on exclusivity and the WWE won't do anything that will jeopardise that relationship as they made out like bandits when their deal was renewed, any UK subscribers they get will be icing on the cake for them. We don't even know if this is a joint venture between Sky and WWE yet, at this point it seems unlikely given there hasn't been one word from Sky. As for "closing the loophole", I don't think WWE could enforce that. Sky maybe. I doubt WWE would even want to enforce it, considering it's bringing them extra Network subscribers that they desperately need.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 5, 2014 9:55:50 GMT -5
Someone on reddit said they asked a Sky rep about it and was told Sky have no involvement.
Of course
a) anyone can say anything on the internet, without a source there is no proof b) if sky were involved some "rep" (which I assume is coroporate doublespeak for customer service agent) probably wouldn't know before they officially announced it without it leaking all over the place
But I doubt Sky have anything to do with it. If anything the contract negotiations in the UK would have played out differently than America, the ball would have been in WWE's court here as WWE's programing is very important to Sky sports, especially to keep people subscribed during the summer when the ball kicking isn't on. Also Sky didn't want BT sports stealing the WWE away, so I wouldn't be surprised if the new deal was negotiated in a way where Sky show the PPV's on box office and the network can still have them like in the US. The reason for the delay is only because the previous deal doesn't expire until then.
It wasn't so complicated elsewhere in the world because either
a) previous deal wasn't so restrictive b) WWE within the last few years signed new deals with the providers and made allowances for the network.
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Post by Robbymac on Sept 5, 2014 10:04:46 GMT -5
I really hope Sky aren't involved. Is there any word from our US counterparts on how quickly the PPVs are uploaded to the network after they finish? Because I rarely get the chance to watch PPV's live (sans 'Mania, and even that I've watched on replay the past two years) and I don't want to have to wait days or even weeks to watch the PPV. I want to be able to watch it as soon as I get home from work on the Monday. Within 24 hours. More like within 15 minutes
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 5, 2014 10:21:59 GMT -5
We don't even know if this is a joint venture between Sky and WWE yet, at this point it seems unlikely given there hasn't been one word from Sky. As for "closing the loophole", I don't think WWE could enforce that. Sky maybe. I doubt WWE would even want to enforce it, considering it's bringing them extra Network subscribers that they desperately need. I doubt Sky are involved, that's the point, Sky intend to keep selling PPVs to the UK audience until 2019 and the moment they realise the network loophole is eating into those sales, they'll demand the WWE crack down, and the WWE will, as the deal is one of their most valuable TV contracts. The WWE not doing anything about international subscribers now doesn't mean they can't or won't down the line should it become an issue for their partners.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Sept 5, 2014 10:30:42 GMT -5
We don't even know if this is a joint venture between Sky and WWE yet, at this point it seems unlikely given there hasn't been one word from Sky. As for "closing the loophole", I don't think WWE could enforce that. Sky maybe. I doubt WWE would even want to enforce it, considering it's bringing them extra Network subscribers that they desperately need. I doubt Sky are involved, that's the point, Sky intend to keep selling PPVs to the UK audience until 2019 and the moment they realise the network loophole is eating into those sales, they'll demand the WWE crack down, and the WWE will, as the deal is one of their most valuable TV contracts. The WWE not doing anything about international subscribers now doesn't mean they can't or won't down the line should it become an issue for their partners. I doubt Sky will even realise unless PPV buys go way down (which I can't imagine since the vast majority don't even know how to get the US version of the Network).
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 5, 2014 10:43:24 GMT -5
I doubt Sky will even realise unless PPV buys go way down (which I can't imagine since the vast majority don't even know how to get the US version of the Network). Lets not forget that Sky are owned by Newscorp who have been pretty relentless in their battle against content they feel they should be paid for being 'free' on the internet. Any dip in PPV sales will lead to a Sky mandated crackdown on people circumventing the region lock.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Sept 5, 2014 10:55:43 GMT -5
I doubt Sky will even realise unless PPV buys go way down (which I can't imagine since the vast majority don't even know how to get the US version of the Network). Lets not forget that Sky are owned by Newscorp who have been pretty relentless in their battle against content they feel they should be paid for being 'free' on the internet. Any dip in PPV sales will lead to a Sky mandated crackdown on people circumventing the region lock. Like I said though, I doubt it will make much of a dent in PPV buys.
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Post by DiBiase is Good on Sept 5, 2014 12:21:52 GMT -5
I never actually thought this would be on Sky, I always figured it would go with he streaming option. I know Sky have the exclusive rights to broadcast WWE on their channels but I didn't think it would include streaming.
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Post by eJm on Sept 5, 2014 13:12:51 GMT -5
Sky's relationship with WWE is peculiar.
For it being one of their biggest draws on their channels, they never promote Raw and Smackdown, they hardly promote the PPVs and the fact the network hasn't been touted as a big deal from them is weird because you would think that's what negotiating the new deal would involve Sky having control about what goes on the network, especially PPV wise.
It's not even like WWE can go anywhere else. BT Sport would probably not take them because of UFC but that's it. Nobody else has the budget to take them or to give them the support Sky has.
So yeah, count me as one of those that think it's strange nothing else has come out about this yet.
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Post by Martin: #TeamBella Treasurer on Sept 8, 2014 19:14:05 GMT -5
The @askwwenetwork Twitter is still giving out an October 1st launch date but say they have no other details at the moment to give out about the UK launch (with Sky, price, apps etc).
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DjZonk
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Post by DjZonk on Sept 8, 2014 20:21:36 GMT -5
That's pretty mental considering how close Oct 1st is. Prince Charles will not be happy about this.
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Post by eJm on Sept 9, 2014 2:04:40 GMT -5
You have literally less than a month to go until launch in a market where you're hoping to get a tonne more subscribers because it's one of your biggest markets, how on Earth do you have nothing else to say about it yet?!
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 9, 2014 7:32:52 GMT -5
You have literally less than a month to go until launch in a market where you're hoping to get a tonne more subscribers because it's one of your biggest markets, how on Earth do you have nothing else to say about it yet?! I get the feeling it'll be launched without fanfare because it's so stripped down that acting like it's an amazing deal or comparable to the rest of the world would only result in a backlash and some interesting reactions to the $9.99 stuff at the next UK Raw.
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Post by Martin: #TeamBella Treasurer on Sept 9, 2014 7:46:28 GMT -5
You have literally less than a month to go until launch in a market where you're hoping to get a tonne more subscribers because it's one of your biggest markets, how on Earth do you have nothing else to say about it yet?! I get the feeling it'll be launched without fanfare because it's so stripped down that acting like it's an amazing deal or comparable to the rest of the world would only result in a backlash and some interesting reactions to the $9.99 stuff at the next UK Raw. Yeah this, or I wonder if they are going it alone but have agreed not to advertise or promote it until launch.
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Post by eJm on Sept 9, 2014 12:08:08 GMT -5
You have literally less than a month to go until launch in a market where you're hoping to get a tonne more subscribers because it's one of your biggest markets, how on Earth do you have nothing else to say about it yet?! I get the feeling it'll be launched without fanfare because it's so stripped down that acting like it's an amazing deal or comparable to the rest of the world would only result in a backlash and some interesting reactions to the $9.99 stuff at the next UK Raw. I guess even then, it makes the WWE look bad for not saying anything about it, even if it gets that bad, because it is making us think it'll be like that. It's a lose/lose situation for them right now especially as the WWE is coming back here in October.
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