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Post by Rave on Aug 22, 2014 17:14:36 GMT -5
I resent Orlando because he had the chance to do something actually progressive and then gave us...that. He did a poor job at representing us. It's visible, but you can't tell me you want the most visible representation of bi people to be some glittery prancing freak. I look at "people" like THAT and it makes me shake my head in pity and shame. I just wish that the first openly bi wrestler in any major company wasn't so much of a offensively stereotypical caricature. And don't forget when TNA sadly confused bisexuality with polyamory by introducing his valets. The whole gimmick was Unfortunate Implications incarnate.
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Post by FinalGwen on Aug 22, 2014 19:13:34 GMT -5
I resent Orlando because he had the chance to do something actually progressive and then gave us...that. He did a poor job at representing us. It's visible, but you can't tell me you want the most visible representation of bi people to be some glittery prancing freak. I look at "people" like THAT and it makes me shake my head in pity and shame. I just wish that the first openly bi wrestler in any major company wasn't so much of a offensively stereotypical caricature. And don't forget when TNA sadly confused bisexuality with polyamory by introducing his valets. The whole gimmick was Unfortunate Implications incarnate. Polyamorous bisexuals exist. It's not an either/or.
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Post by Neo: "The One" who CLAPS on Aug 22, 2014 20:03:06 GMT -5
While at the time it wasn't the worst thing ever as it raised eyebrows, I believe Samoa Joe being kidnapped by ninjas is still the worst thing ever. Nothing happened. No payoff. Its freaking Samoa Joe and all we get it Taz saying he's on the case by like calling Joe's phone. Then Joe comes back with a cock on his face for no reason. Hell, that was after the tattoo! He just came back and...well..he came back and resumed being Samoa Joe.
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Post by Rave on Aug 22, 2014 22:00:44 GMT -5
And don't forget when TNA sadly confused bisexuality with polyamory by introducing his valets. The whole gimmick was Unfortunate Implications incarnate. Polyamorous bisexuals exist. It's not an either/or. I shouldn't say "confused", that was a poor choice of words. Yes, polyamorous bisexuals exist, but the way TNA treated the whole thing, to me, gave the implication that someone on their writing team believed that all bisexuals had to have multiple partners at the same time. There was no buildup to it, they just suddenly appeared, then disappeared almost as suddenly and were never mentioned again. Then, if I remember right, they pretty much functioned just as armcandy because the few displays of affection were cut from broadcast, not sure if it was TNA's production or Spike TV there. On top of that, OJ was still chasing after Rob Terry and molesting Pope, among others, so there's the further implication that, despite being established in a relationship, bisexual people can't keep their hands to themselves. Maybe I'm reading too much into it and it was just TNA halfassing for shock value. They've done that before.
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Post by Curt Hawkins Fan on Aug 23, 2014 9:01:27 GMT -5
While at the time it wasn't the worst thing ever as it raised eyebrows, I believe Samoa Joe being kidnapped by ninjas is still the worst thing ever. Nothing happened. No payoff. Its freaking Samoa Joe and all we get it Taz saying he's on the case by like calling Joe's phone. Then Joe comes back with a cock on his face for no reason. Hell, that was after the tattoo! He just came back and...well..he came back and resumed being Samoa Joe. Well I guess that was very stupid of me to think there was character development. What f*** was their original plan? Everything else in this thread perhaps added just a smidge of plot, but Joe got nothing from the ninjas!
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Post by Super Nintenjoe KBD on Aug 23, 2014 10:18:20 GMT -5
But the Worst of them all it was pre-Impact but it was Roddy Piper showing up and add-libing saying to Russo that he killed Owen Hart. You want to talk about "awfulness" ths was the Zenith of Crap. I had to find this, its from around 5.30 in this www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uyr8wnHpT0 You can feel the tension build as he mentions it and the silence of the crowd, that's not a feeling you want the crowd to have at a wrestling show in my opinion, genuine unease.
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Post by benstudd on Aug 23, 2014 19:05:23 GMT -5
But the Worst of them all it was pre-Impact but it was Roddy Piper showing up and add-libing saying to Russo that he killed Owen Hart. You want to talk about "awfulness" ths was the Zenith of Crap. I had to find this, its from around 5.30 in this www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Uyr8wnHpT0 You can feel the tension build as he mentions it and the silence of the crowd, that's not a feeling you want the crowd to have at a wrestling show in my opinion, genuine unease. I don't think I've ever watched the whole thing, too embarassing. In early TNA there was so much stuff like this. You have to skip most of the show and just watch the X Division.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Aug 23, 2014 21:09:06 GMT -5
While at the time it wasn't the worst thing ever as it raised eyebrows, I believe Samoa Joe being kidnapped by ninjas is still the worst thing ever. Nothing happened. No payoff. Its freaking Samoa Joe and all we get it Taz saying he's on the case by like calling Joe's phone. Then Joe comes back with a cock on his face for no reason. Actually, he lost the penis face make up when he came back. That was from the ill-fated Nation of Violence thing that went nowhere.
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