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Post by JTG Fan on Aug 21, 2014 16:05:24 GMT -5
I wouldn't blame Triple H at all. Angle is a f***ing trainwreck, and they don't need him dying on their watch. After going to WWE sponsored rehab, Kurt is finally clean. Not saying there's not risk involved, but he isn't really a 'f***ing trainwreck' anymore than Jake Roberts or Scott Hall or (insert any other wrestler with substance abuse past).
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Post by mrjl on Aug 21, 2014 16:11:38 GMT -5
I truly don't believe any of this. Vince is willing to do business with anyone who can help make money. Angle is money. At the very least there's a legends deal, at most a return to the main roster with lots in between. Angle's coming back to WWE in some fashion. They let Flair back just to keep an eye on him. I have no doubt that if Kurt called up and asked for a non-wrestling contract WWE would jump on it. He's asking for a contract where he would wrestle. WWE let Flair go rather than end the retirement stip and let him get back in the ring, so when Vince or Steph or Trips feels strongly about something they're willing to stick with it
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 21, 2014 16:14:40 GMT -5
Damn, well I guess I don;t have to see him wrestle again, but let him in a WWE ring dammit.
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 21, 2014 16:28:41 GMT -5
I wouldn't blame Triple H at all. Angle is a f***ing trainwreck, and they don't need him dying on their watch. After going to WWE sponsored rehab, Kurt is finally clean. Not saying there's not risk involved, but he isn't really a 'f***ing trainwreck' anymore than Jake Roberts or Scott Hall or (insert any other wrestler with substance abuse past). And I have many reservations about those guys getting in the ring again, too, outside of maybe a one off under very protected circumstances.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 21, 2014 16:31:50 GMT -5
Yeah, on an interview earlier on the year in Pittsburgh, Stephanie sounded as if she would be open to an Angle return, she teased saying never say never, let's not forget who wears the pants in the relationship. Also I haven't seen Angle wrestle since that ec3 debacle, is it that bad? Are his medical records publicly known? I rather not give my opinion until an MRI and other tests are revealed.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 21, 2014 16:37:53 GMT -5
The man by his own admission has had 7 or 8 neck surgeries, has little left in his knees, and has been taking God knows what for the last 7 years to keep going because of all that, no way WWE should let him wrestle. Never mind he's on par with the worst indie guys out there now when it comes to his actual ring work. Sign him for DVDs, sign him to glad hand, sign him to GM or perhaps commentate but not to wrestle.
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Post by mrjl on Aug 21, 2014 16:38:24 GMT -5
If this report is true, I love how Vince washes his hand of Angle by saying HHH is in charge of talent relations, as if Vince were staying at home, making airplane models and taking Aurora to buy some ice cream... I would watch every episode of a WWE Network series of Vince doing grandpa things. putting Vince in all kinds of wacky situations would be money
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Post by Juice on Aug 21, 2014 17:11:32 GMT -5
I truly don't believe any of this. Vince is willing to do business with anyone who can help make money. Angle is money. At the very least there's a legends deal, at most a return to the main roster with lots in between. Angle's coming back to WWE in some fashion. They let Flair back just to keep an eye on him. I have no doubt that if Kurt called up and asked for a non-wrestling contract WWE would jump on it. He's asking for a contract where he would wrestle. WWE let Flair go rather than end the retirement stip and let him get back in the ring, so when Vince or Steph or Trips feels strongly about something they're willing to stick with it Thing is, and this is the biggest problem with the plague that is internet news. We don't know if this conversation actually happened. We don't know what was said if it did. etc etc. Angle was lie a son to Vince and he would be welcomed back with open arms. I just saw the guy in person a week ago and he appeared to be in really good shape.
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Post by the2ndevil on Aug 21, 2014 17:23:23 GMT -5
I think it could be neat if Angke was paired with Swagger on screen as his coach. Like Zeb could call Angle in the help Jack get back on track, as Angle is an American hero by virtue of being an Olympic Gold Medalist.
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Post by Captain & Diet on Aug 21, 2014 23:57:37 GMT -5
I read this as HHH turns down's Angle's retweet request. @kurtangle .@wwetripleh I want to come back pls RT Twitter hijacked?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 22, 2014 0:28:28 GMT -5
The man by his own admission has had 7 or 8 neck surgeries, has little left in his knees, and has been taking God knows what for the last 7 years to keep going because of all that, no way WWE should let him wrestle. Never mind he's on par with the worst indie guys out there now when it comes to his actual ring work. Sign him for DVDs, sign him to glad hand, sign him to GM or perhaps commentate but not to wrestle. Ok but he deserves at least to retire in the wwe, doesn't have to be a classic just with a guy who won't hurt him, like triple h. I'm not talking about a series of matches just one last time, kinda like the sting deal if it ever happens. Even Bret Hart did one. But if he isn't medically clear to compete I won't protest the decision, he doesn't even have to wrestle, I just want to hear that music and the fans chanting "you suck!" with tears of happiness applauding him as he's getting inducted in the wwe hall of fame.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 22, 2014 1:02:08 GMT -5
The man by his own admission has had 7 or 8 neck surgeries, has little left in his knees, and has been taking God knows what for the last 7 years to keep going because of all that, no way WWE should let him wrestle. Never mind he's on par with the worst indie guys out there now when it comes to his actual ring work. Sign him for DVDs, sign him to glad hand, sign him to GM or perhaps commentate but not to wrestle. Ok but he deserves at least to retire in the wwe, doesn't have to be a classic just with a guy who won't hurt him, like triple h. I'm not talking about a series of matches just one last time, kinda like the sting deal if it ever happens. Even Bret Hart did one. But if he isn't medically clear to compete I won't protest the decision, he doesn't even have to wrestle, I just want to hear that music and the fans chanting "you suck!" with tears of happiness applauding him as he's getting inducted in the wwe hall of fame. Thing is, for a lot of us here, that would be great. It's about what Kurt wants, if he demands to wrestle again, it'll never happen.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 22, 2014 1:06:59 GMT -5
I completely agree with you, if it is proved that he would endanger himself and others, don't let him, and protect Kurt from himself. The thing I'm having a big problem with, is that if Kurt is allegedly as bad as the claims are, then why would tna still let him wrestle? Couldn't they be held accountable if something happens to him?
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Aug 22, 2014 1:16:44 GMT -5
I completely agree with you, if it is proved that he would endanger himself and others, don't let him, and protect Kurt from himself. The thing I'm having a big problem with, is that if Kurt is allegedly as bad as the claims are, then why would tna still let him wrestle? Couldn't they be held accountable if something happens to him? TNA let Jeff Hardy go out in the main event of a PPV drugged up. They've kept the hardcore style around long after WWE got rid of it for stylistic and health reasons. In these days of increased drug testing and awareness, they had Scott Steiner on payroll for years, Test at his most jacked up just before he died and others like Brian Kendrick(I know it's just pot and that's another debate, but it's still an illegal drug right now). When Scott Hall came back in "The Band" he was clearly not healthy. At this point, I think TNA would let Jake Robert face Hall in a "Bottle of Jack on a pole" match. They've never seemed a responsible companywith the health of their roster.
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Aug 22, 2014 1:29:35 GMT -5
Ya think Trips offered him anything? It seems weird that he'd flat out get denied although with his personal problems I totally understand. Even still though, Ric Flair is a pretty big embarrassment at this point and he's an ambassador. I'm sure there's more to the story. Triple H is a total Flair fanboy, though. Reportedly, he keeps Flair employed because left to his own devices he squanders all of his money, renegs on contracts and gets sued for them, and makes a much bigger ass out of himself. On a company leash there's people who care about him and have a vested interest in keeping him from doing anything too damaging, because his time in TNA proved that he doesn't really have anyone else who will. This apparently goes back to the Evolution days.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 22, 2014 1:32:21 GMT -5
Ya think Trips offered him anything? It seems weird that he'd flat out get denied although with his personal problems I totally understand. Even still though, Ric Flair is a pretty big embarrassment at this point and he's an ambassador. I'm sure there's more to the story. Triple H is a total Flair fanboy, though. Reportedly, he keeps Flair employed because left to his own devices he squanders all of his money, renegs on contracts and gets sued for them, and makes a much bigger ass out of himself. On a company leash there's people who care about him and have a vested interest in keeping him from doing anything too damaging, because his time in TNA proved that he doesn't really have anyone else who will. This apparently goes back to the Evolution days. I think Vince is Flair's biggest fanboy, he has bailed him out of trouble for close to 20 years, he even paid his legal fees when he got divorced from wife number 2
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