mrjl
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Post by mrjl on Aug 21, 2014 20:11:23 GMT -5
I'd start up with them getting jobber entrances and upset wins. First week Enzo, then Big Cass. Third week tag team against the two guys they beat and win again. Then fourth week let them do their NXT entrances introducing themselves to the crowd.
they also need a double team finisher. They should act like it's not a big deal after hitting it challenging their opponent to get back up then covering for the pin. Then grab a mike and run down their opponent because to stay down after that they must be S-A-W-F-T Sawft
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 20:16:00 GMT -5
Why would you have them debut without the thing that got them over in the first place?
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Post by Dean F'n Ambrose on Aug 21, 2014 20:20:12 GMT -5
Why would you have them debut without the thing that got them over in the first place? /thread |
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Post by mrjl on Aug 21, 2014 20:24:56 GMT -5
Why would you have them debut without the thing that got them over in the first place? to make the crowd want to chant it. Intro them with it and get a crowd that doesn't all watch NXT then they come off as a couple of asshats. Show them off so that they've backed up their claims before they made them and make fans want to chant along with them once they learn to speech. |
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 21, 2014 20:28:34 GMT -5
Tag finish, wouldn't mind them using the G9, under a different name of course.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 20:31:27 GMT -5
Why would you have them debut without the thing that got them over in the first place? to make the crowd want to chant it. Intro them with it and get a crowd that doesn't all watch NXT then they come off as a couple of asshats. Show them off so that they've backed up their claims before they made them and make fans want to chant along with them once they learn to speech. But their whole appeal is their charisma; that's why they got over to begin with. Debuting them with no fanfare getting "upset" wins would likely have them end up like Xavier Woods. |
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Post by mrjl on Aug 21, 2014 20:46:30 GMT -5
to make the crowd want to chant it. Intro them with it and get a crowd that doesn't all watch NXT then they come off as a couple of asshats. Show them off so that they've backed up their claims before they made them and make fans want to chant along with them once they learn to speech. But their whole appeal is their charisma; that's why they got over to begin with. Debuting them with no fanfare getting "upset" wins would likely have them end up like Xavier Woods. I just want to be clear when I say upset I'm not talking about fluke rollups, I'm talking guys hitting unexpected finishers Besides current WWE fans are inexplicably afraid of liking someone they're told to. Bring Enzo and Big Cass out and talk about them being charismatic and fans will no sell it. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 21, 2014 20:55:53 GMT -5
But their whole appeal is their charisma; that's why they got over to begin with. Debuting them with no fanfare getting "upset" wins would likely have them end up like Xavier Woods. I just want to be clear when I say upset I'm not talking about fluke rollups, I'm talking guys hitting unexpected finishers Besides current WWE fans are inexplicably afraid of liking someone they're told to. Bring Enzo and Big Cass out and talk about them being charismatic and fans will no sell it. That's what they did with Xavier Woods. He debuted to no fanfare and beat people with his finisher, than by the time they tried to do anything with his character the crowds didn't give a crap about him. I think your idea would be okay for some other NXT guys (like Mojo Rawley or somebody), but Enzo and Cass' strongest attributes are their mic skills and charisma. Without that, you just have a small guy who dresses like an asshole and a big guy who kinda' looks like Edge. Just have them come out and do their NXT shtick and beat, say, RybAxel, and then from there decide whether or not they'll be heels or faces based on how the crowd reacts to them. |
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Post by Instant Classic on Aug 21, 2014 21:10:27 GMT -5
a 7 footer getting an upset win?
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Post by mrjl on Aug 21, 2014 21:21:39 GMT -5
a 7 footer getting an upset win? he'd have to be up against a guy close to his size admittedly. |
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 21, 2014 22:26:10 GMT -5
Besides current WWE fans are inexplicably afraid of liking someone they're told to. Bring Enzo and Big Cass out and talk about them being charismatic and fans will no sell it. This is true. It will need to be made clear that Vince and Kevin Dunn hate them before the fans will get behind them. |
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Post by lildude8218 on Aug 21, 2014 22:27:32 GMT -5
WOAH WOAH WOAH! Who exactly are we removing butts from? You think we're a couple of debutters here? Like we're just gathering up asses left and right? [/Enzo]
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Post by Juice on Aug 21, 2014 22:33:01 GMT -5
I don't see what;s so special about these guys. I am a little behind though.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Aug 22, 2014 4:11:50 GMT -5
These guys are fantastic. I'm enjoying them so much I'd be happy to see them continue on NXT for another few months and getting a run with the belts before they are brought up to Raw.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Aug 22, 2014 4:24:48 GMT -5
They need video intro's to build them up, like the Razor Ramon vignettes. Show them in their home turf, show what they're all about and end every segment with S-A-W-F-T, even have Big Cass look at the camera and ask "do I need to spell it out for you?" Have the announce team hype them up, have JBL talk about how strong big Cass is, how entertaining Enzo is. It'll maybe make more people check out NXT on the Network, and it'll get them over as A Big Deal.
Just DO NOT have them appear on a random episode to crickets.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Aug 22, 2014 8:05:24 GMT -5
Their first match they just need to be the de facto heels, walking to the ring with microphone in hand doing their obnoxious mic work heel gimmick a la the early New-Age Outlaws. If it gets them cheered turn the face quickly.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 22, 2014 8:09:29 GMT -5
Fill me in, what's their gimmick exactly?
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Aug 22, 2014 8:10:47 GMT -5
Fill me in, what's their gimmick exactly? They're pretty much two obnoxious guys from New Jersey who speak in catchphrases. |
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Post by dragonsteincole on Aug 22, 2014 8:10:55 GMT -5
I can sorta see mrjl's idea working, but 3 weeks of into videos and then have them come out doing their shtick would imo get results faster.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Aug 22, 2014 8:14:36 GMT -5
Fill me in, what's their gimmick exactly? They're pretty much two obnoxious guys from New Jersey who speak in catchphrases. That sounds pretty terrible to be honest. Like a tag team of Ryders. |
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