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Post by The Tank on Aug 26, 2014 11:36:38 GMT -5
I don't want anyone to lose their job, obviously, but ever since Rob Van Dam won the title, every time I've tried to watch Impact it's felt like they're kicking me in the balls and telling me to like it.
So yes. I want to see TNA burn out into nothingness.
However, I also want to see many of their workers end up in GFW or ROH or WWE even. Somewhere.
...although, it does seem like anyone I give a f*** about is abandoning ship, so maybe I don't want to see many of "their" workers end up somewhere.
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Post by Dean F'n Ambrose on Aug 26, 2014 11:36:43 GMT -5
I kinda just want the knockouts to become adult actresses.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 26, 2014 11:37:00 GMT -5
I just noticed the Engrish in the poll question. This feels relevant. Double post sorry, lol yeah I can't edit it...all your base belong to us...
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Post by Mozenrath on Aug 26, 2014 12:08:16 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first tv wrestling company where you can see it folding each week, in ECW and WCW's product you thought the company could be turned around, but the state of TNA, each week you saw a main eventer leave, then the house shows attracting 10 people, then changing tna's timeslot without warning, the embarrassing roster they now have, the creative, or lack there off, from Gaburick, even if they linger on, they're just another sub par indy at this point. Arguably, AWA went that same route, where the end was clearly coming.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 12:10:19 GMT -5
Correct me if I'm wrong, but this is the first tv wrestling company where you can see it folding each week, in ECW and WCW's product you thought the company could be turned around, but the state of TNA, each week you saw a main eventer leave, then the house shows attracting 10 people, then changing tna's timeslot without warning, the embarrassing roster they now have, the creative, or lack there off, from Gaburick, even if they linger on, they're just another sub par indy at this point. Arguably, AWA went that same route, where the end was clearly coming. TNA at this point probably couldn't afford to film in an empty warehouse.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 12:11:08 GMT -5
At this point it might as well......
I feel bad saying that. I do. I was alive in the WWF vs. WCW heyday. I watched both, then WCW a lot more, then WWF more when WCW dipped into the crapper, then WWF solely when they bought WCW for $3mil.
Yet I miss WCW. I miss the 1993-1998 WCW, because that made WWF work their asses off to be better, and because WCW was a lot of fun on its own too. But eventually, WCW made too many mistakes, ventured past that point of no return, and we all wished its mercy killing.
So it happens again with TNA. A decent product, for a while, but it's reached and surpasesed that point of cancellation. Saving it now would only allow more mistakes. TNA recovery - like WCW in 2000-2001 - is foregone. It's not happening. Too many mistakes, bad decisions and blunders have plagued it.
Plus, sadly, WWE exists with TNA running, and you couldn't notice their affect on McMahonLand whatsoever. The WCW/WWF dynamic isn't there. If TNA sinks, WWE just rolls on forward like a Bigfoot truck driving over an ant.
I guess we can only hope GFW goes better, gobbles up TNA and keeps what works and gets rid of the rest. I guess.....
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 26, 2014 12:31:01 GMT -5
Nope, wrestling won't recover from it. Companies like RoH won't expand to fill the void, RoH will be lucky if Sinclair doesn't pull the plug on them within the next 2-3 years, and all we'll be left with is a bloated, stagnant WWE similar to what we saw in the early 2000s and a bunch of indies battling for slices of a smaller pie. I want the carters gone and people who get how to run a wrestling company put in their place, people who understand there is no quick fix and the only way to grow is through putting on the best product they can and advertising.
Also, I'm loving the way people are mocking TNA for the departures of the former WWE names given how long people have been calling for TNA to create it's own stars and identity rather than seeming like a knockoff.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 12:34:04 GMT -5
Nope, wrestling won't recover from it. Companies like RoH won't expand to fill the void, RoH will be lucky if Sinclair doesn't pull the plug on them within the next 2-3 years, all we'll be left with is a bloated, stagnant WWE similar to what we saw in the early 2000s and a bunch of indies battling for slices of a smaller pie. I want the carters gone and people who get how to run a wrestling company put in their place, people who understand there is no quick fix and the only way to grow is through putting on the best product they can and advertising. Also, I'm loving the way people are mocking TNA for the departures of the former WWE names given how long people have been calling for TNA to create it's own stars and identity rather than seeming like a knockoff. The thing is though, TNA didn't use them to build people up for the future then phase them out, all of them are leaving because by most accounts TNA is a terrible place to work and can't afford to pay them anymore, and without them the card is basically composed of nothing but a bunch of third-rate nobodies because everyone TNA has built up any they've lost.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Aug 26, 2014 12:43:34 GMT -5
Yes. Sorry, but they had all the time, resources and chances to make it something good and f***ed up time and time again.
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Post by Stone Coke Miami Watson 🥃 on Aug 26, 2014 12:48:28 GMT -5
If it continues to be ineptly run like Herb Abrams' UWF, then yes, kill it and kill it with fire.
If they are willing to do a massive administrative overhaul and hire people who are competent and have a God-given passion for the sport, and who want to see the brand succeed as a viable wrestling alternative, then many of us would give it a second-chance with open arms.
Keep Dixie in command, but away from any decisions involving the product.
If they have to start from the bottom (yet) again, then so be it, and use the down-time to capitalize on the glaring weaknesses and focus on the positives enough to make people notice. If it boils down to people like Gunner holding titles, then so be it....everyone has to start somewhere whether it is someone like him as a temporary title holder, or a nugget of gold like EC3.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 26, 2014 12:51:14 GMT -5
No need to
They are doing a good enough job killing their own company
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 12:53:48 GMT -5
I don't want them to die but I'm not overly concerned about that event happening. If it does, it does.
The thing I'll miss most is this board, actually. People take things too seriously on the WWE side of things.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Aug 26, 2014 12:56:05 GMT -5
It's seriously at the point where every day TNA is alive is a day that stupidity succeeds.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 26, 2014 12:57:35 GMT -5
The thing is though, TNA didn't use them to build people up for the future then phase them out, all of them are leaving because by most accounts TNA is a terrible place to work and can't afford to pay them anymore, and without them the card is basically composed of nothing but a bunch of third-rate nobodies because everyone TNA has built up any they've lost. Most departed name guys don't seem to have grounds to complain, the backstage environment is low pressure according to guys like Chavo, they got paid decently and had a greatly reduced schedule compared to the alternatives, it's the 'third rate nobodies' who seem to have real issues with TNA as a workplace and I'm inclined to agree with them given how they treated Jessy, Jesse and Daffney. TNA couldn't afford the bigger names to begin with, they've been living beyond their means for years so I'm not going to mock them for being realistic for the first time. It may well be too little too late, but we shall see.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 13:05:08 GMT -5
Yeah I want them to fold. It's like watching a good heel get their comeuppance. TNA have been doing horrible for so long it's evident that the people in charge don't know what they're doing and are in the wrong business. I don't even feel bad for the workers because I feel like TNA have hurt more than they helped anyways. There are a select few who actually made their name in TNA, Beer Money were a hot commodity once but do you think WWE would scout James Storm today and think there's something there? Bram, Magnus, Sam Shaw are guys who might be prospects but are written into dumber shit by the week and have to be doing damage to their overall draw by being there. Barring a select few when TNA finally calls it off the only guys who are gonna have any value are guys who established their value before even being there.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 26, 2014 13:09:21 GMT -5
Not really, but I do think they completely suck. Didn't they bring back the crappy six sided ring recently because that really annoyed me. Focus on the product. A gimmicky ring with less give and more risk of injuries does not make the product better
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Post by mcstoklasa on Aug 26, 2014 13:11:57 GMT -5
I kinda just want the knockouts to become adult actresses. I'd be a fan if it was Velvet.
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Post by the2ndevil on Aug 26, 2014 13:36:21 GMT -5
I don't want it to, but I'm at the point where if it does, I'm hoping something else rises from the ashes.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 26, 2014 14:10:26 GMT -5
It would be a mercy killing at this point.
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Post by JTG Fan on Aug 26, 2014 14:25:59 GMT -5
Short answer: "Yes" with an "If," long answer: "No" -- with a "But.
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