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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 26, 2014 14:33:43 GMT -5
The thing I'll miss most is this board, actually. People take things too seriously on the WWE side of things. The WWE board is and has been since I joined the forum, a trainwreck. The TNA board has a quirky personality all its own, and when it gets too serious it's not really difficult to fix. Put up a goldfish and all of a sudden the board gets the hint that hey ok let's chill out a bit and stop acting like a bunch of sour pusses. That luxury of easy moderation doesn't extend to the other wrestling section (*glares at WWE*), you do ANYTHING to make a joke in there that isn't related to photoshop and so many get bent out of shape. The hints that it's time to change the direction of the attitude is often ignored there. It makes for a lot of extra moderator stress and work that none of the green (and pink) guys want to deal with day in and day out. The TNA section though, through the years with only a few exceptions, has self moderated and been pretty enjoyable. So if indeed the TNA board does need to be shut down I'd like to actually thank the regulars of this section, y'all roll with the damn punches like no one else.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 26, 2014 14:36:49 GMT -5
Nope, wrestling won't recover from it. Companies like RoH won't expand to fill the void, RoH will be lucky if Sinclair doesn't pull the plug on them within the next 2-3 years, all we'll be left with is a bloated, stagnant WWE similar to what we saw in the early 2000s and a bunch of indies battling for slices of a smaller pie. I want the carters gone and people who get how to run a wrestling company put in their place, people who understand there is no quick fix and the only way to grow is through putting on the best product they can and advertising. Also, I'm loving the way people are mocking TNA for the departures of the former WWE names given how long people have been calling for TNA to create it's own stars and identity rather than seeming like a knockoff. The thing is though, TNA didn't use them to build people up for the future then phase them out, all of them are leaving because by most accounts TNA is a terrible place to work and can't afford to pay them anymore, and without them the card is basically composed of nothing but a bunch of third-rate nobodies because everyone TNA has built up any they've lost. Because most of those bigger names were greedy and bled them dry.
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Post by Slammy Award-Winning Cannibal on Aug 26, 2014 14:44:36 GMT -5
But, its been years now and they've pretty firmly established their brand and its not really for me. Nope, they haven't, actually. The thing is though, TNA didn't use them to build people up for the future then phase them out, all of them are leaving because by most accounts TNA is a terrible place to work and can't afford to pay them anymore, and without them the card is basically composed of nothing but a bunch of third-rate nobodies because everyone TNA has built up any they've lost. Because most of those bigger names were greedy and bled them dry. That's not how it works. TNA makes the choice to invest in talent for the purpose of utilizing them to turn a profit. The "bigger names" were not greedy. If TNA doesn't know how to monetize mainstream talent, don't sign them.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 26, 2014 15:12:50 GMT -5
Well the bigger names also got frustrated, it's been confirmed that when people saw Kurt Angle and RVD in an airport they would asked them why they retired from wrestling, then they would tell the fans to check out Spike TV, it's like Bully Ray said you can have the greatest product but if no one is there to watch it...instead of spending all the money in Hogan, they should've invested it with the the biggest pr firms in the world.
Another reason I want to see tna die, was what they did to Nigel, how he got hepatitis in the line of duty working for them, and how they fired him later.
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Post by Been burned too many times on Aug 26, 2014 15:35:10 GMT -5
No.
Of course not.
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Post by the2ndevil on Aug 26, 2014 15:35:47 GMT -5
Another reason I want to see tna die, was what they did to Nigel, how he got hepatitis in the line of duty working for them, and how they fired him later. Say what, now?
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Aug 26, 2014 15:42:50 GMT -5
Another reason I want to see tna die, was what they did to Nigel, how he got hepatitis in the line of duty working for them, and how they fired him later. Say what, now? It was on his documentary, which was awesome by the way, when he got demoted and worked with Abyss in a series of hardcore matches, he bladed himself, and got hep b from the contact his open forehead had with the ring's canvas. At least it was hep b, and he got cured from it a year later, that's why he wasn't on tv, and just someday appeared in explosion, then he got fired a short time later. When the guy got sick using your ring, at least you could've kept him on payroll, that would be the classiest thing to do, but TNA and class do not belong on the same sentence, kinda how they handled the Jesse Sorensen situation.
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Post by metylerca on Aug 26, 2014 15:59:16 GMT -5
They're a company that's done nearly everything wrong.
As much as it'd suck for them to go under, I am firmly behind the next major company to rise up, so long as Dixie Carter has no finger in it and Vince Russo never hears about it.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Aug 26, 2014 17:01:39 GMT -5
TNA basically has been buried in a Pet Sematary and was resurrected this is just a corpse of what use to be a good product, it should have stayed dead but nope it keeps on going.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 26, 2014 17:09:01 GMT -5
The thing I'll miss most is this board, actually. People take things too seriously on the WWE side of things. The WWE board is and has been since I joined the forum, a trainwreck. The TNA board has a quirky personality all its own, and when it gets too serious it's not really difficult to fix. Put up a goldfish and all of a sudden the board gets the hint that hey ok let's chill out a bit and stop acting like a bunch of sour pusses. That luxury of easy moderation doesn't extend to the other wrestling section (*glares at WWE*), you do ANYTHING to make a joke in there that isn't related to photoshop and so many get bent out of shape. The hints that it's time to change the direction of the attitude is often ignored there. It makes for a lot of extra moderator stress and work that none of the green (and pink) guys want to deal with day in and day out. The TNA section though, through the years with only a few exceptions, has self moderated and been pretty enjoyable. So if indeed the TNA board does need to be shut down I'd like to actually thank the regulars of this section, y'all roll with the damn punches like no one else. Yea, on average I'd wager most of our reported posts do come from WWE Current, and a lot of the time it's over the silliest stuff. Maybe it's because most people seem to view WWE as being solid but missing opportunities, and that's easier to debate over than TNA which is widely agreed on as being bad, but this is one of my favorite sections here.
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Post by Mister Pigwell on Aug 26, 2014 17:15:21 GMT -5
^I won't argue with that one bit.
It's weird, the TNA board though solid in its misery about the product, is oddly upbeat about said misery.
Must be what being a Cubs fan feels like.
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Post by Can you afford to pay me, Gah on Aug 26, 2014 17:22:26 GMT -5
I'm saying at this point yes. I have watched TNA from day one and with all the mis management and now the talent that matter leaving. As long as Dixie Carter is involved this company will never be what it should be. They should been on Spike TV with a 2.0 rating years ago. The fact they can never focus on a direction or find someone who has a idea on how to book today's wrestling. That Vince Russo 98 style will still work today. The idea just signing a big name and not promote the company as a whole thinking it will so how draw.
The fact they have more money and star power than the average indy show yet there house shows can't draw a 100 people anymore as it seems like in pictures. While I feel bad that so many will loss jobs but GFW is coming and a lot of them will likely get signed there. Worst case for a guy like Joe is returning to ROH. I loved TNA and had high hopes from 06 to 09 when the roster was amazing. It a shame they never did anything with it.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Aug 26, 2014 17:24:49 GMT -5
^I won't argue with that one bit. It's weird, the TNA board though solid in it's misery about the product, is oddly upbeat about said misery. Must be what being a Cubs fan feels like. WWE are the Cardinals. They usually ignore the Cubs/TNA in favor of tougher fish (Brewers/UFC, Pirates/MNF).
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 26, 2014 17:30:48 GMT -5
Hmmm, tough question.
On the one hand I think they've made too many mistakes and have too much baggage to recover from, they should burn it to ground on the assumption that something better will take it's place giving a lot of wrestlers a second chance and another avenue for young talent.
The trouble with that assumption is that the middle part of just about every market is dropping out, it's either the giants at the top or the indy companies at the bottom with nothing much inbetween so I'm not sure anything would take it's place.
If the roster left TNA and flooded the indies I assume it will reduce the opportunities for young wrestlers in those promotions.
I guess it's best that it stays in existence until another company naturally takes their place.
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Post by slappy on Aug 26, 2014 17:33:51 GMT -5
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Post by Pillman's Pencil on Aug 26, 2014 17:39:24 GMT -5
For all the stupidity, No, because people who I have met in real life would be out of work, although I wouldn't mind if Magnus lost his job, from what I've heard (mainly The Knight Family who trained him) he is a real prick.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Aug 26, 2014 20:12:10 GMT -5
Nope because I'm one of those people that believe everything can be turned around if given a chance. I acknowledge that TNA really screwed themselves over but even going to a deal like Velocity is better for the workers in terms of exposure than TNA folding and them going back to the indies. It would also be a chance that WCW nor ECW got after they lost their tv deals (Heyman not trying and Bischoff ' s backers just getting fed up with the sale).
Now as others have said, whether it was ignorance or shear stupidity (probably both) it is hard to feel bad for Dixie Carter the promoter. She brought this on herself by constantly listening to the wrong people at every turn. Maybe this would turn out to be the wake up call they she needs and she won't screw up. Now that's asking for a lot but I don't think people realize how big of a lifeline even a channel like Velocity is.
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Post by Chip on Aug 26, 2014 20:54:49 GMT -5
Yes. Though at this point only because the shoots that will come from it's closing should be more entertaining to watch then TNA.
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Post by Emmet Russell on Aug 26, 2014 21:11:11 GMT -5
They've made the exact same mistakes WCW made and have someone managed to stay in business despite never having an eighth of the popularity that WCW did. I don't even know if I want to them to go out of business after that; they're fun to keep around for their stupidity.
I think it's time for them to go though. They've had way too many chances and keep managing to f*** up. They're nothing more than a joke and damaging to all involved -- when you hear the name TNA all you think of is the negative vibe attached to the name. It's tarnished. Damaged. Even the best talents that end up going there lose their luster just by being involved with the company.
They refuse to acknowledge their own history and leech off other companies. They've killed more careers than HHH's reign of terror in 2003. It's time they go so another company can have a fresh start and a good chance not to sully their reputation from the very beginning.
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Post by Cyno on Aug 26, 2014 21:19:09 GMT -5
They need to be put out of their misery.
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