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Post by xCompackx on Aug 27, 2014 16:16:02 GMT -5
Cena HAS to leave like Edge. You've seen how WWE have booked him after his first CLEAR loss in over a decade. How do you think they'd react to booking a loser leaves match with him or something? WWE can't write Cena off TV forever, it is not in their DNA. They seemingly want to be forced into his retirement. They have no other plan. That's what I don't get about WWE. They're so paranoid about their PR, but they'll happily ride a guy until he's forced to retire and then move on to the next person in line. Why? I get the whole "Everyone wants that one spot" idea of wrestling, but shouldn't they be equally as focused on protecting their talent as they are about making money? How's it going to make WWE look when guys start retiring younger and younger because Vince just has to squeeze that last drop of publicity from them? |
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 27, 2014 16:26:05 GMT -5
Do you think John knows that even most of his detractors like and respect the hell out of him? That all of the "Cena sucks" stuff is aimed "creative" and not at him personally? I think I speak for MOST fans when I say that we don't want the guy (who has given seeming every minute of his time to fans and charity) to wind up badly hurt. I don't want the guy getting hurt, but I blame him just as much for his horrendous character and booking. That guy has so much power and stroke in that company that he could immediately nix any plan he didn't like. If he didn't want to spend three months making Bray Wyatt his bitch, he wouldn't have. Who would have told him "no" and risked pissing off their top guy who lines their pockets? |
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Post by "Gizzark" Mike Wronglevenay on Aug 27, 2014 16:32:29 GMT -5
I struggle with newz at the best of times, but I sincerely doubt WWE is negligent enough to let Brock throw Cena directly onto an injured neck 137 times in a row.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 16:41:56 GMT -5
I struggle with newz at the best of times, but I sincerely doubt WWE is negligent enough to let Brock throw Cena directly onto an injured neck 137 times in a row. Keep in mind that right off a scare with Edge's neck with him losing feeling in places they were about to put him in a ladder match, and only backed out of it when he got a second opinion that said he needed to retire. Which... Yeah, damn is Edge lucky that he did that or that match probably would have killed him. |
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Post by Hot Noodle Truck on Aug 27, 2014 16:54:03 GMT -5
I really hope that Cena has the common sense to step away for a while and weigh his options, if this turns out to be true. I know he's a company guy and all but I don't want to see the man end up in a wheelchair when he's still so young. Don't follow Kurt Angle's lead man.
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Aug 27, 2014 16:56:19 GMT -5
I don't want the guy to get injured at all. Much like a lot of people here, I hate how he's booked while I have no issue with him as a person. The WWE have a lot of great talent in Ziggler, Kofi, Rollins, Ambrose, Swagger, Bo Dallas, Bray, Barrett, Sheamus, and even Rusev that they could be utilizing much better. It seems as if Vince goes into panic mode when ratings aren't at a high level the night after an episode of Raw. He just needs to learn and understand to take a couple of hits in the ratings department, continue building up their roster, and create a product that the audience at home and in attendance can get emotionally invested in without becoming so inconsistent.
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Post by Hit Girl on Aug 27, 2014 17:38:50 GMT -5
I would never wish injury on anyone, but I just don't see how WWE can move forward unless Cena takes a lengthy absence.
Given their need for new stars, it may be a blessing in disguise. Like many instances in WWE history, constructive change doesn't come unless Plan A is scuppered.
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Post by JCBaggee on Aug 27, 2014 17:50:46 GMT -5
Cena has just lost faith in his own body. He's letting himself down. He just needs to....BO-LIEVE. C'mon everybody! For John Cena!!  |
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Post by Woo on Aug 27, 2014 17:50:59 GMT -5
He's injured? Thank goodness Bray was squashed by him in time then! Phew!....
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Aug 27, 2014 17:52:46 GMT -5
It wouldn't surprise me if this turns out to be some sort of newz to bait the IWC into believing Cena will take time off. Remember his supposed "knee injury" at the hands of the Wyatt's during one of their ambushes of him on Raw?
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Post by Allie Kitsune on Aug 27, 2014 18:26:08 GMT -5
Do you think John knows that even most of his detractors like and respect the hell out of him? That all of the "Cena sucks" stuff is aimed "creative" and not at him personally? I think I speak for MOST fans when I say that we don't want the guy (who has given seeming every minute of his time to fans and charity) to wind up badly hurt. I don't want the guy getting hurt, but I blame him just as much for his horrendous character and booking. That guy has so much power and stroke in that company that he could immediately nix any plan he didn't like. If he didn't want to spend three months making Bray Wyatt his bitch, he wouldn't have. Who would have told him "no" and risked pissing off their top guy who lines their pockets? VINCE McMAHON, DAMNIT!!! |
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Post by Crimson on Aug 27, 2014 18:40:44 GMT -5
Makes me wonder what will happen if Cena really is forced to be sidelined. No Cena, no Bryan, no CM Punk. Random Randy Orton face turn?
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Aug 27, 2014 23:39:26 GMT -5
Do you think John knows that even most of his detractors like and respect the hell out of him? That all of the "Cena sucks" stuff is aimed "creative" and not at him personally? I think I speak for MOST fans when I say that we don't want the guy (who has given seeming every minute of his time to fans and charity) to wind up badly hurt. I don't want the guy getting hurt, but I blame him just as much for his horrendous character and booking. That guy has so much power and stroke in that company that he could immediately nix any plan he didn't like. If he didn't want to spend three months making Bray Wyatt his bitch, he wouldn't have. Who would have told him "no" and risked pissing off their top guy who lines their pockets? I don't know if that's exactly true. Cena's been on top of the mountain, full time, for over a decade. Nobody else has ever done that. Even going back to the days of Bruno, he didn't wrestle four days a week and spend the other three doing charity work, public appearances, autograph signings, etc. Up until Lesnar, nobody had EVER scored a 100% clean win on him in a title match (or, iirc, in ANY match). Vince/Johnny interfered in the match with Punk. Bryan beat a John Cena who was wrestling with one arm. And I think a lot of that is due to him NOT using any of the backstage pull he might have to shoot down ideas from the company. He does what they ask of him, every time. Aside from that thing with Alex Riley, the only stories you hear about him using his "stroke" tend to be "This guy's good. You should give him a shot." You don't hear much about him giving *anybody* problems behind the scenes. Nobody says he's hard to work with. I don't think he's ever hurt anybody. When you've got a guy like that, why *wouldn't* WWE protect the hell out of his character? I mean, other than concern for the health and safety of another human being? Because American corporations aren't really known for things like that. They used up Bruno, Hogan, and Edge until they were too hurt to keep going. They used Hogan and Rock until they got a better offer and split. The only person they really seemed to care about the health/safety/life of was Kurt Angle, and let's be honest, everybody knows that was more of a "we don't want an Olympic Gold Medalist dying of a drug overdose while on our payroll." It's what WWE does. Grind the monkey until there's nothing left. Cena must be like King Kong, because the company has been grinding him as hard as possible, for years on end, and he always seems to have more in the tank. He's not going to tell them that he needs time off, or a reduced schedule, or anything like that. And the company isn't going to stop taking advantage of that fact. |
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Post by SAJ Forth on Aug 28, 2014 0:20:48 GMT -5
Well this won't end well.
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Post by SAJ Forth on Aug 28, 2014 0:23:10 GMT -5
This just adds to my belief that were about to see Cena have a massive falling out with WWE/Vince. Frustrations rising, injuries taking their toll, and it is just the norm in WWE for the top guy to leave on bad terms it seems.  Soon, he'll tell Cena to never get married. |
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Post by madness50 on Aug 28, 2014 0:31:22 GMT -5
I hate sounding over-dramatic, but I fear for Cena's long-term health at this point. The guy needs a break at least until the Royal Rumble.
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Post by Mid-Carder on Aug 28, 2014 4:32:23 GMT -5
This is probably the reason for pushing Roman Reigns because they may need a quick replacement if Cena should have to retire due to injury but if that fail then WWE did this to themselves by not making more stars ands dumbing down the product The worst thing WWE can do is push Roman ahead of Bryan when he returns (assuming he's healthy enough to work the main event). WWE will have to be patient if they really want Roman to make it as a beloved main eventer. Frankly, WWE would be better off letting Roman play #2 to Bryan for awhile. To be fair to WWE in this case, they can't sit around and hope DB will be healthy enough to return. They have to plan for if he doesn't, which in this case is Roman. I'm not surprised by this news at all. It was always going to happen when he continues to rush back from injury. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 28, 2014 4:40:11 GMT -5
Makes me wonder what will happen if Cena really is forced to be sidelined. No Cena, no Bryan, no CM Punk. Random Randy Orton face turn? ... ... LETS GO CENA! *clap clap clap clap clap* |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 28, 2014 4:43:05 GMT -5
The worst thing WWE can do is push Roman ahead of Bryan when he returns (assuming he's healthy enough to work the main event). WWE will have to be patient if they really want Roman to make it as a beloved main eventer. Frankly, WWE would be better off letting Roman play #2 to Bryan for awhile. To be fair to WWE in this case, they can't sit around and hope DB will be healthy enough to return. They have to plan for if he doesn't, which in this case is Roman. I'm not surprised by this news at all. It was always going to happen when he continues to rush back from injury. Roman isn't ready. I think what WWE needs to do is rebuild their fallen stars so they can hold down the fort while Reigns gets more seasoning. I can at least buy Sheamus as a world champion because he's been one before. |
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Aug 28, 2014 4:57:27 GMT -5
Cena should ask Arn Anderson, Edge, Paul Orndorf and others what they think about working through injury. There will come a point where his body just gives up after a show and then what? The WWE will be left without a viable top babyface as they've cut everyone with crowd support off at the knees in favour of pushing their guys, people like Sheamus and Reigns who'll never really connect with the audience if the WWE keep pushing them as they have.
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