MrBRulzOK
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Post by MrBRulzOK on Aug 27, 2014 14:43:04 GMT -5
I'm guessing Vince's mindset was "Cena looked too weak at Summerslam! We gotta make him look strong this week, DAMN IT!" As for why it was the Wyatt Family that was thrown to the slaughter, I suspect it was because they were a considerable enough threat that it would look even more impressive when Cena managed to lay them all out single-handedly. And honestly I can see what they were going for. At the very least they did try to protect Bray by not having him get pinned in the end. That doesn't do much when Bray was pretty much dummied by Cena for their singles match, then ultimately AA'd after the tag match. Agreed. It really didn't do much good, but in Vince's mind that probably was his mindset. I'm not saying I agree with the decision. I thought it was kind of dumb to do that with one of the few stars that has been protected for so long. Still, I get why they did it. I'm not saying it wasn't stupid, because it was, but I understand their viewpoint.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 14:45:59 GMT -5
Amazing newsbit.
I also heard that AJ Lee was going to actually belly to belly suplex Paige, but instead hugged her because the ref called an audible at the last moment after recieving instructions from the Gorilla position.
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Post by Bo Rida on Aug 27, 2014 14:52:16 GMT -5
I struggle to believe Big Show and Henry vs Harper and Rowan was going to be the main event as they already faced each other lower down the card last week.
That said it's still sadly believable that they'd make decisions that could effect the long-term prospects of three wrestlers careers on a whim.
Regardless I don't think WWE realised that there'd be such a backlash towards that main event even from people that are usually more ambivalent towards Cena.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Aug 27, 2014 14:59:37 GMT -5
I struggle to believe Big Show and Henry vs Harper and Rowan was going to be the main event as they already faced each other lower down the card last week. That said it's still sadly believable that they'd make decisions that could effect the long-term prospects of three wrestlers careers on a whim. Regardless I don't think WWE realised that there'd be such a backlash towards that main event even from people that are usually more ambivalent towards Cena. Show and Henry vs. Wyatt Family was not supposed to main event, just be a big part of Raw with Bray getting to lay out Show and build some more on Jericho losing to Bray and push forward with Wyatt Family/WLTT. They was was also talk that Cena was extremely pissed with the changes and more vocal than usual but doesnt like getting involved in the booking side so it wouldn't change anything.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 15:02:10 GMT -5
Cena should have just told Bray "I am senior, I say we do a 50/50 match" and just go ahead. WWE aren't going to pull them both from the ring and Cena is not going to be punished so what's the worst that happens?
The Wyatt's are no worse than they would be after punishment for disobeying the booking. It's messed up.
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Shark
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Post by Shark on Aug 27, 2014 15:11:15 GMT -5
My theory is that Cena went to Vince and sold him on the idea of destroying Bray. I honestly believe that Cena is a very very selfish individual and only cares about making himself look good at this point and has no problems making someone he doesn't perceive as being on his level look bad. I'd personally fear for the future so long as John Cena is an active wrestler in WWE and if the reports about his injuries are true, hopefully that won't be for much longer.
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Post by Prince Petty on Aug 27, 2014 15:14:11 GMT -5
Cena should have just told Bray "I am senior, I say we do a 50/50 match" and just go ahead. WWE aren't going to pull them both from the ring and Cena is not going to be punished so what's the worst that happens? The Wyatt's are no worse than they would be after punishment for disobeying the booking. It's messed up. Cena should be using whatever influence he has now to help put guys over, as much as possible. Even if he's still beating them, he should go out of his way to make them a threat, consistently. Because, if he's as much of a company man as everyone says, he should know that the best thing for the company is for them to have as many marketable stars as possible. Especially if his injuries are beginning to catch up with him. He should be getting involved in the booking side of things, to make sure crap like this doesn't happen. Hell, even if he's a mark for himself, he must be aware that this sort of thing is a reason why large portions of the audience can't stand him.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 15:22:17 GMT -5
How do you go from putting Bray over huge to the entire Wyatt Family getting squashed in an afternoon? Vince was eating a ham sandwich in the lunch area at noontime, when Bray walked by, said hello, and then released a silent but deadly gasser near Vince. Vince swore for the next 4 hours that fecal particles infected his ham sandwich and caused him to see his dead father, laughing at him while being fondled and molestered by Mae and Moolah. And so the decision was made to squash Bray. In memory of Vince's ham sandwich. ..........it's the WWE. Trust me, this probably makes as much goddamn sense as anything else that happened.
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Post by Shark on Aug 27, 2014 15:33:17 GMT -5
Cena should have just told Bray "I am senior, I say we do a 50/50 match" and just go ahead. WWE aren't going to pull them both from the ring and Cena is not going to be punished so what's the worst that happens? The Wyatt's are no worse than they would be after punishment for disobeying the booking. It's messed up. Cena should be using whatever influence he has now to help put guys over, as much as possible. Even if he's still beating them, he should go out of his way to make them a threat, consistently. Because, if he's as much of a company man as everyone says, he should know that the best thing for the company is for them to have as many marketable stars as possible. Especially if his injuries are beginning to catch up with him. He should be getting involved in the booking side of things, to make sure crap like this doesn't happen. Hell, even if he's a mark for himself, he must be aware that this sort of thing is a reason why large portions of the audience can't stand him. You'd think so, but that's clearly not the case. Cena only puts guys over if he sees them as being on his level or if he has no choice, i.e. putting Bryan over because he had to leave for surgery. Other than Bryan, who else has Cena legit put over and made into a star? No one. I don't put Punk in that category. For one Punk was over before he faced Cena and after that summer, Cena was the guy back in the title picture and not Punk, who got shunted into the stupid Triple H-Kevin Nash feud.
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Post by Session Moth is over on Aug 27, 2014 15:35:02 GMT -5
Imagine if changing the plan was actually Triple H idea and we can look foward to this usual shit for years to come!
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Post by JTH on Aug 27, 2014 15:43:21 GMT -5
Heels that are super over that then are made to look like fools for weeks to come?
Hmm. I feel like I heard that not too long ago... *Cough* Cesaro! *Cough*
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Aug 27, 2014 15:50:54 GMT -5
Cena should be using whatever influence he has now to help put guys over, as much as possible. Even if he's still beating them, he should go out of his way to make them a threat, consistently. Because, if he's as much of a company man as everyone says, he should know that the best thing for the company is for them to have as many marketable stars as possible. Especially if his injuries are beginning to catch up with him. He should be getting involved in the booking side of things, to make sure crap like this doesn't happen. Hell, even if he's a mark for himself, he must be aware that this sort of thing is a reason why large portions of the audience can't stand him. You'd think so, but that's clearly not the case. Cena only puts guys over if he sees them as being on his level or if he has no choice, i.e. putting Bryan over because he had to leave for surgery. Other than Bryan, who else has Cena legit put over and made into a star? No one. I don't put Punk in that category. For one Punk was over before he faced Cena and after that summer, Cena was the guy back in the title picture and not Punk, who got shunted into the stupid Triple H-Kevin Nash feud. To be fair, the "Stupid Triple H-Kevin Nash feud" was the main storyline at the time while Cena's short title reign during that period was little more than an afterthought
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DjZonk
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Post by DjZonk on Aug 27, 2014 15:53:05 GMT -5
I loved the Nash / HHH feud. We knew we wasn't going to get Dynamite Kid / Tiger Mask, but at the same time, we all remember it, and frankly I wouldn't mind revisiting it on the Network.
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Post by 1 Free Moon-Down with Burger on Aug 27, 2014 15:57:07 GMT -5
We really aren't at a point where people seriously want a man to be injured. All over a dumb scripted segment. Right?
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Post by Bub (BLM) on Aug 27, 2014 16:03:41 GMT -5
Whoever made this change is a f***ing moron. I imagine the situation going down something like this: "...and then Bray hits the ring and lays out Big Show, getting him back on the map as our biggest emerging heel." "Well, Kev and I were just discussing it in the showe... uh, *tugs on ear* in the production truck, and we think John should be added to the match and just AA all those Duck Dynasty guys. The fans love John." *thinking to herself* "Every f***ing Monday I'm stuck in the middle of this..."
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Post by Chainsaw on Aug 27, 2014 16:12:31 GMT -5
Making that a t-shirt. Yoink!
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Post by xCompackx on Aug 27, 2014 16:18:52 GMT -5
This is probably one of the few Vince ideas where I sorta get the intent behind it. It came off f***ing terrible and the Wyatt Family was NOT the stable to do it with, but I get it.
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Post by Ishmeal Loves Kaseyhausen on Aug 27, 2014 16:54:22 GMT -5
How do you go from putting Bray over huge to the entire Wyatt Family getting squashed in an afternoon? Vince was eating a ham sandwich in the lunch area at noontime, when Bray walked by, said hello, and then released a silent but deadly gasser near Vince. Vince swore for the next 4 hours that fecal particles infected his ham sandwich and caused him to see his dead father, laughing at him while being fondled and molestered by Mae and Moolah. And so the decision was made to squash Bray. In memory of Vince's ham sandwich. ..........it's the WWE. Trust me, this probably makes as much goddamn sense as anything else that happened. This is complete made up bullshit. We all know Vince eats steak roll-ups with extra ketchup.
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Post by Jiren on Aug 27, 2014 17:04:32 GMT -5
I've said time and time again, Vince needs to f*** off.
He's a cancer to the product
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Post by Deleted on Aug 27, 2014 17:06:57 GMT -5
My theory is that Cena went to Vince and sold him on the idea of destroying Bray. I honestly believe that Cena is a very very selfish individual and only cares about making himself look good at this point and has no problems making someone he doesn't perceive as being on his level look bad. I'd personally fear for the future so long as John Cena is an active wrestler in WWE and if the reports about his injuries are true, hopefully that won't be for much longer. Agreed. He really is the cancer of the product.
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