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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 28, 2014 12:22:48 GMT -5
Playing Cataclysm DDA again. By far one of the more time consuming things is making a home base where you can hide in if you're not exploring the map. Firstly, you gotta make sure it's far from the city. Too close and zombies will spawn near it, which is bad. Having a nearby water supply is good, too, since you can hunt for food easily enough, but without water you'll be dead soon.
Then comes the case of fortifications. Chop wood, carry heavy log near the place where you gotta build, then dig pit, then dig pit again. Create wall. And that takes care of one piece of the wall. You'd need tools for the whole thing, and some supplies which you can only get in a town, usually.
If you're lucky, you can find a last man on earth station on your map. Basically, a pre-made base with all the things you need, including an underground water supply.
Due to some bugs, NPCs are turned off, but you can turn it on again if you want to. They're not exactly complete, but they can add some things to the game... namely getting your character shot to death if you're unlucky enough to somehow provoke them. In any case, that feature is more or less to be implemented more properly in the future, since a number of traits you can select in the game involves interaction with NPCs... and one that removes guilt from the enjoyment of long pork.
So yeah, you can butcher dead NPCs for meat. There's even a recipe book named to serve man. That said, you can butcher anything for meat... which includes zombies.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Sept 28, 2014 15:51:43 GMT -5
Has anyone put any time into Sunless Sea? I'm not in a state to truly describe it, but it's set in Fallen London (which is also a free browser game from a few years back you can still play) and you're a captain of a ship who has to go about said sunless sea without going insane from fear, managing stock/sharing stories from various places you visit, and facing combat with other seafaring creatures and pirates. It's not particularly difficult so it'll probably be a turn off for most reading this but damn, it's atmospheric and I've put a good few hours into the game. I dig Sunless Sea quite a lot. The setting is cool, and the gameplay is fun.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Sept 29, 2014 6:57:41 GMT -5
I spent like 10 hours playing Sunless Sea, dying, then beginning anew. The F key being next to D has ruined many a life. Double/triple tapping full power = blowing up ship.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Sept 30, 2014 9:31:58 GMT -5
I spent like 10 hours playing Sunless Sea, dying, then beginning anew. The F key being next to D has ruined many a life. Double/triple tapping full power = blowing up ship. Dying due to mistakes is the staple of many roguelikes, it seems. I can remember so many things from so many roguelikes regarding dying due to silly mistakes... and quite a lot of dying not exactly sure what just happened as well.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Sept 30, 2014 11:11:11 GMT -5
I spent like 10 hours playing Sunless Sea, dying, then beginning anew. The F key being next to D has ruined many a life. Double/triple tapping full power = blowing up ship. Dying due to mistakes is the staple of many roguelikes, it seems. I can remember so many things from so many roguelikes regarding dying due to silly mistakes... and quite a lot of dying not exactly sure what just happened as well. I remember that time in NetHack when I died from kicking a wall too many times. Didn't realize you lost HP from doing that.
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Post by The Spelunker! on Sept 30, 2014 12:53:04 GMT -5
It's still quite fun however. I greatly enjoy having the 4 major resources to keep an eye on, and the world is absolutely great.
Finding out where everything familiar ended up each new game has been rewarding and super frustrating. I've definitely died in a couple runs looking for an island fora quest and never finding it.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 1, 2014 14:26:44 GMT -5
Dying due to mistakes is the staple of many roguelikes, it seems. I can remember so many things from so many roguelikes regarding dying due to silly mistakes... and quite a lot of dying not exactly sure what just happened as well. I remember that time in NetHack when I died from kicking a wall too many times. Didn't realize you lost HP from doing that. Nethack has a lot of those surprising types of death. Like death from holding a cockatrice. There's a roguelike called Elona where if you carry too much stuff, like way beyond your carry limit, like say a tree, you can get crushed to death the moment you take one step, as illustrated here: Thankfully, Elona is one of the roguelikes that doesn't have permadeath, though you do get stat penalties from dying. You can regain stats, and raise them that doesn't require leveling up that much, but it is a bit time consuming. Also, you can ride a T-Rex, as illustrated here. Though with the sprite graphics anything you ride looks like a small goat. And you can ride pretty much anything, like a dog, a mecha, a snail, and so on. You can also get married and have the child... even if you're a genderless golem, and your husband/wife is a T-Rex, or an eldritch abomination, or a talking motorcycle. It's that kind of game.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 1, 2014 15:01:25 GMT -5
But can you ride a Gelatinous Cube, like you can in D&D? (no seriously, there are rules specifically for riding a Gelatinous Cube in battle)
More seriously though, that sounds f***ing brilliant! Why did I not know about this game until now?!
Also, is there something out there that's like, a cross between an RPG and a roguelike? Like, something like Fallout where you'd go on quests (as opposed to dungeon crawling for one single quest) and stuff, but said quests would be randomized and maybe the locations too? I suppose the closest thing to this I can think of would be The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall. Or maybe an open-world version of ClaDun.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 1, 2014 15:54:00 GMT -5
But can you ride a Gelatinous Cube, like you can in D&D? (no seriously, there are rules specifically for riding a Gelatinous Cube in battle) More seriously though, that sounds f***ing brilliant! Why did I not know about this game until now?! Also, is there something out there that's like, a cross between an RPG and a roguelike? Like, something like Fallout where you'd go on quests (as opposed to dungeon crawling for one single quest) and stuff, but said quests would be randomized and maybe the locations too? I suppose the closest thing to this I can think of would be The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall. Or maybe an open-world version of ClaDun. If you can tame it, then you can definitely ride it. Elona does have random quests. There's the basic, kill everything in this map to get a reward, and there's some escort an NPC to another town, deliver this item to another town, play some music (if your music skill sucks, then people will throw rocks. people killing rocks). You can also farm, set up a shop, and a number of things. Some towns also have quests you can do. You also have a home base, and you gotta pay taxes monthly, too. There's also the etherwind. On certain days on every month, the weather becomes bad for your character. Negative mutations can happen. From stat penalties to not being able to wear certain items. You can cure it, but the item for that is rare. Get 20 mutations, and die. You respawn with 19 mutations, but it's gonna be a circle of stat drain if you're not careful. You also gotta eat. Herbs and meat from certain monsters can provide stat boosts that can become stat growth. And so on. If you're interested, go for Elona plus. As I recall, that's the version that adds another continent on the game. Unfortunately, the second half is poorly translated at the moment, I think. Not sure if it has been updated yet. Also, the English version removes cutscenes, so you gotta look up the events online. (also, regarding the first pic in my previous post: that can happen on a delivery quest, if you're not too careful on reading the details of the quest, specifically what kind of item you'll deliver... like say, a bed. you accept the quest, next thing you know you're dead)
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 1, 2014 16:10:44 GMT -5
Adding what I've said about the absurdities in Elona, there is a mutant race. You start off with 4 equipment slots (when other races start off with more than that). Every few levels, you get a new body part. This happens a number of times, and after gaining several more parts, it stops, but you end up with more equipment slots than other races, in the end.
And it's all random. So you can have a mutant character with three hands and you can triple wield, or even six (but your fifth arm or so will be hit with severe accuracy penalties). Did you notice I said hands? Because arm slots are separate. Hands are for weapons, arms are for gloves or gauntlets.
So, basically, you can end up with a character with extra arms, legs, feet, neck (for amulets of course, though I wonder why the character can't wear five amulets on the same neck instead of needing five necks in the first place), and so on. Of course, the horror of mutation can't be seen through the sprites, but looking at your equipment screen is still trippy.
Or, there's a quest in the game where you can combine with an NPC you have to get more body parts, so your not-mutant character can get even more body parts. Alternatively, you can have a mutant character, and combine for even more body parts. 20-plus equipment slots, at the cost of speed.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 1, 2014 16:18:55 GMT -5
But can you ride a Gelatinous Cube, like you can in D&D? (no seriously, there are rules specifically for riding a Gelatinous Cube in battle) More seriously though, that sounds f***ing brilliant! Why did I not know about this game until now?! Also, is there something out there that's like, a cross between an RPG and a roguelike? Like, something like Fallout where you'd go on quests (as opposed to dungeon crawling for one single quest) and stuff, but said quests would be randomized and maybe the locations too? I suppose the closest thing to this I can think of would be The Elder Scrolls II: Daggerfall. Or maybe an open-world version of ClaDun. If you can tame it, then you can definitely ride it. Elona does have random quests. There's the basic, kill everything in this map to get a reward, and there's some escort an NPC to another town, deliver this item to another town, play some music (if your music skill sucks, then people will throw rocks. people killing rocks). You can also farm, set up a shop, and a number of things. Some towns also have quests you can do. You also have a home base, and you gotta pay taxes monthly, too. There's also the etherwind. On certain days on every month, the weather becomes bad for your character. Negative mutations can happen. From stat penalties to not being able to wear certain items. You can cure it, but the item for that is rare. Get 20 mutations, and die. You respawn with 19 mutations, but it's gonna be a circle of stat drain if you're not careful. You also gotta eat. Herbs and meat from certain monsters can provide stat boosts that can become stat growth. And so on. If you're interested, go for Elona plus. As I recall, that's the version that adds another continent on the game. Unfortunately, the second half is poorly translated at the moment, I think. Not sure if it has been updated yet. Also, the English version removes cutscenes, so you gotta look up the events online. (also, regarding the first pic in my previous post: that can happen on a delivery quest, if you're not too careful on reading the details of the quest, specifically what kind of item you'll deliver... like say, a bed. you accept the quest, next thing you know you're dead) That seriously sounds awesome, like some kind of cross between Minecraft and an RPG. Taxes though? Screw that! I'mma pay you in stabbings, IRS agent!
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 1, 2014 16:26:35 GMT -5
Another dose of silly-ness. In reference to a certain movie, alien enemies can impregnate you. After some game turns, an alien bursts out of your body. You take damage, and there's a pissed off alien who'll try to kill you.
For added fun, try releasing that alien in a town. Chest burster party.
Anyway, the game is free, so if interested, just search for the name of the game.
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Post by Dub H on Oct 1, 2014 16:48:59 GMT -5
My curious and challenge seeker side of me in spelunky is my doom.It would be so much easier if i just ran to the exit.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 1, 2014 22:42:19 GMT -5
My curious and challenge seeker side of me in spelunky is my doom.It would be so much easier if i just ran to the exit. Happens to me a lot in roguelikes. Doing the main quest is fine and dandy, but getting lots of rare items or doing side quests, and subsequently getting into tough situations and/or getting killed due to it.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 2, 2014 1:41:40 GMT -5
Another dose of silly-ness. In reference to a certain movie, alien enemies can impregnate you. After some game turns, an alien bursts out of your body. You take damage, and there's a pissed off alien who'll try to kill you. For added fun, try releasing that alien in a town. Chest burster party. Anyway, the game is free, so if interested, just search for the name of the game. h I've already downloaded it. Right now I'm having too much fun with the randomized aliases. My curious and challenge seeker side of me in spelunky is my doom.It would be so much easier if i just ran to the exit. To be fair, it kind of beats the purpose of Spenlunky to disregard the exploration and make a beeline for the exit. Plus, I learned that even if you try to do that, it works for a few levels but you end up regretting not having proper equipment once you make it to places with large falls and strong enemies and traps and shit. Spending to find money is also good to pay the guy who digs a tunnel for you.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 2, 2014 11:49:01 GMT -5
Another dose of silly-ness. In reference to a certain movie, alien enemies can impregnate you. After some game turns, an alien bursts out of your body. You take damage, and there's a pissed off alien who'll try to kill you. For added fun, try releasing that alien in a town. Chest burster party. Anyway, the game is free, so if interested, just search for the name of the game. h I've already downloaded it. Right now I'm having too much fun with the randomized aliases. Yeah, those are a hoot. Also, once you enter the first town the best choice for an ally is the girl. Having a bear is cool and all, but the girl would be more useful due to the equipment slots.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 2, 2014 11:53:23 GMT -5
Screw that! I'm taking the cat!
Also, man this game is hard. I've started over twice already because I managed to screw myself beyond belief. On top of that, every time I think I've found an easy low-level quest, it turns out to be way harder than I expected.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 2, 2014 12:00:20 GMT -5
Screw that! I'm taking the cat! Also, man this game is hard. I've started over twice already because I managed to screw myself beyond belief. On top of that, every time I think I've found an easy low-level quest, it turns out to be way harder than I expected. Yeah, it's a pretty tough start. Now, if you wanna collect some gold, it's best to do the simple delivery quest. The before it's too late escort quests are easy too if you know where the towns are. You can easily travel around Vernis, Yowyn and Palmia since they're relatively close to each other. Don't try going for quests to Noyel yet, since that town is pretty far from others, and the snow in the region will slow travel down.
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Post by SsnakeBite, the No1 Frenchman on Oct 2, 2014 13:50:45 GMT -5
Also, ALL of Vernis wants me to know that Shena has the best ass. This is apparently vital information.
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Post by aka Cthulhu on Oct 2, 2014 14:53:02 GMT -5
Also, ALL of Vernis wants me to know that Shena has the best ass. This is apparently vital information. Vital information to know, or somesuch. One risk of failing escort quests, and delivery quests as well, is the hit on karma. Go too low, and guards from town will attack on sight. There's also the possibility of being tossed to jail, in which you gotta kill yourself via rope so you can respawn at home. Once you're at level 6, getting killed by guards will restore your karma little by little. Alternatively, you can stick around in Derphy and do quests there to restore your karma. You can still do escort missions, since all you need to do is enter the town, get the reward, and leave before the guards catch you. Doing that will restore karma a little as well, as I recall.
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