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Post by Deleted on Sept 12, 2014 16:42:03 GMT -5
You are starting a wrestling company and you have the choice of Rick Rude, Paul Orndorff, or Curt Hennig to join your company as your perennial heel champion. Each man is in the prime of his career. Tell which wrestler you chose and why.
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Post by highplainsdrifter on Sept 12, 2014 17:07:23 GMT -5
Tough call but I'm thinking Hennig. I feel like he was the best worker of the 3, and on paper he definitely has the tools to be the top heel of a successful major promotion.
I'd say Orndorff is the safe pick though since he drew the most in main events, but I believe circumstance also plays a big part in that. Rude was probably the best heel in the entire business during his WCW run in '92, but the company wasn't doing good business at the time. Hennig also was amazing as the top heel in AWA in '87 when the promotion happened to be sinking fast.
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Post by comahan on Sept 12, 2014 17:15:06 GMT -5
If I'm going to build a company around one of them as the heel champion, I'll take Hennig. I think he'd be the perfect heel champion in an NWA style promotion thats built around babyfaces chasing the heel. He'd be able to make all of his challengers look amazing while barely scraping by with the belt, much like Flair.
If it were a WWF style promotion though, with a top babyface always holding the title, Hennig would probably be my last choice of these 3. Rude and Orndorff make wonderful foils for the big superhero Hogan/Cena type face, but I don't know that I can envision them as longterm world champs.
But yea, in your scenario, Hennig.
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Post by mizerable on Sept 12, 2014 17:24:54 GMT -5
Ask me 6 years ago and I would have said Hennig.
But I've come to appreciate Rude a lot more in recent years. I think he edges Hennig out in terms of stardom even though Hennig is easily the better wrestler.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Sept 12, 2014 22:42:58 GMT -5
perfect. because he was the best heel character.
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Post by Racksman on Sept 12, 2014 22:45:00 GMT -5
I...I mean, I get Orndorff's value in 84-85 WWF, but other than that, he's a pretty terrible wrestler, an even shittier promo, and I'm not sure what business he has being mentioned in the same breath as Rick Rude or Curt Hennig on any level.
I'm voting Rude only because this is a heel question and Hennig could do babyface just as good as heel. Rude was top heel material.
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Post by StuntGranny® on Sept 12, 2014 23:58:36 GMT -5
Hennig. Great promo, great look, amazing wrestler, and could be a great heel or babyface (if that became a need).
Rude would be a VERY close second.
I've never understood any sort of love for Paul Orndorff. I can't say I've ever enjoyed any of his matches and his promos are the worst. His 'thing' at Fall Brawl 1995 should disqualify him from everything ever.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 13, 2014 0:03:15 GMT -5
Rude carried himself like a bigger star than Hennig ever did, so my first pick would be Rude. I'd take Hennig over Orndorff, but that's not a knock on Orndorff. Orndorff was a very successful draw for WWE. His feud with Hogan did great business. They set attendance records and I believe their cage match at Saturday Night's Main Event set a TV viewership record and has only been surpassed once and that was by Andre and Hogan at The Main Event in 1988.
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Post by Racksman on Sept 13, 2014 0:05:06 GMT -5
I spoke about this with a buddy from another board, and I think I kind of want to change my answer? But not really.
Rude would be (or at least eventually be) my top heel, especially if we're talking late 80's. But Hennig would be brought in as my top babyface. Put the title on him immediately, let him run roughshod for about a year as Rude is built up, and then have Rude be the one that dethrones him and starts a big Rude/Hennig feud/title chase for Hennig to eventually regain the strap.
Meanwhile, Paul Orndorff dies in a fire.
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Post by Digital Witness on Sept 13, 2014 0:16:21 GMT -5
When I look at the business from the 80s to now as a whole, its got to be Rude. While Hennig definitely could fit the Flair or Bockwinkle classy heel champ to a tee, Rude's the guy who could change with the times, and would be the most likely to feel more at home and in his element once the attitude era times came to pass. I can't really say much about Orndorff. He did well in the 80s, but I can't help but feel that he was just a guy in a flashy robe that wasn't Flair.
tl;dr: "Ravishing" Rick Rude
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Post by highplainsdrifter on Sept 13, 2014 0:56:41 GMT -5
I...I mean, I get Orndorff's value in 84-85 WWF, but other than that, he's a pretty terrible wrestler He was actually very good in the ring during his prime. That was in the late 70s and the early part of the 80s though. After the arm injury he wasn't the same at all.
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Post by The 1Watcher Experience on Sept 13, 2014 1:39:45 GMT -5
I have to go with Hennig. He could work with anyone and make them look great. He could have been a more modern version of Ric Flair. Rude was great too but I think I'd get a lot more out of Hennig long term.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 11:50:05 GMT -5
Wow, I can't believe how little love Orndorff is getting in this thread.
My choice is ultimately Rude, with Orndorff as a close 2nd.
To me, what sets Orndorff apart from the other two is that he was a different kind of heel. While Hennig and Rude were the "cool heels" who fans booed but secretly loved, Orndorff was just a straight up heel who fans hated, more like Tully Blanchard. Aside from his robe, he wasn't flashy. He was smug and arrogant, had a bad attitude, and did things just to anger the fans, like walking laps around the ring bragging about himself while the referee pleaded with him to get in and wrestle.
Pre-injury Orndorff also had far more intensity than either Hennig or Rude. He wasn't your typical cowardly heel of the 80's. In fact, one thing I alwyas loved about Orndorff was how his character didn't change one bit whether he was a babyface or a heel. Whether being cheered or booed, he was still the same intense performer who thought he was better than everyone else. His piledriver was the best in the business, and seemed like it could legit stop anyone who got unlucky enough to be caught in it.
His promos weren't that terrible, but with a mouthpiece like Heenan he was even better.
In the 80's, Orndorff was the only guy who I ever felt was a legit threat to Hogan.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 13, 2014 11:51:03 GMT -5
Mr Wonderful.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 13, 2014 11:58:52 GMT -5
Rick Rude. Just dick heel greatness. Hennig is the better pure wrestler, but I never bought into him like I did Rude. Always found Hennig kind of boring. Mr. #1derful is cool, but Rude is my jam.
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Post by Clawley Race on Sept 13, 2014 15:37:37 GMT -5
Rude. He would have made a better heel champion. Someone that people pay over and over in the hopes that someone can beat him. Perfect makes a better heel challenger, IMO.
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Post by Magnus the Magnificent on Sept 13, 2014 15:41:00 GMT -5
Cut the music! What I'd like right now, is for all you IWC imbecils to keep the noise down, while I take my robe off and show tafkaga what a real heel champion is supposed to look like. Hit the music!
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Post by fuzzywarble, squat cobbler on Sept 13, 2014 17:55:49 GMT -5
Probably Rude for me, but I just have to say that Orndorff has the greatest piledriver I've ever seen in my life.Puts Lawler's to shame.
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Post by Digital Witness on Sept 13, 2014 18:15:10 GMT -5
Since Orndorff's piledriver is being brought up, Rick Rude is no slouch in the piledriver department.
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Post by DragonMasterP on Sept 13, 2014 18:46:54 GMT -5
I say Hennig, although that's mostly personal preference, I've never really cared much for the other two.
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