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Post by hunterbusax on Sept 19, 2014 8:39:55 GMT -5
It seems if anyone is capable of replacing cena its him he can talk kids like him smarks like him legend have stood up for him did I mention he has a Bella. An he did this all by not being shoved down people throat on a weekly basis. as much as Vince wants Reighs to be the guy I just don't see it happening don't think any former shield member could be the guy to be honest.
Do you think when he returns he will get another shot fans haven't forgotten him an I'm sure the pop he would get on return would be huge if in the right city.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 19, 2014 8:48:50 GMT -5
Long and short of it, Vince is constantly looking for the next Rock or Austin and refuses to see when there aren't any around and he should be settling for the next Bret.
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Post by Dr. Bolty, Disaster Enby on Sept 19, 2014 8:55:50 GMT -5
There'a also just Bryan not being much less worn down, physically, than Cena - in fact, he might be more worn down.
The one thing I understand about giving Roman Reigns the big push? He's fresh, he's fit, he's young. He's not been beaten up by a decade plus on the indies.
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Post by Prince Petty on Sept 19, 2014 8:58:12 GMT -5
Long and short of it, Vince is constantly looking for the next Rock or Austin and refuses to see when there aren't any around and he should be settling for the next Bret. I see what you did there.... Really, Bryan just does not have the look that Vince wants in a champion. He isn't big or particularly powerfully built (relative to other wrestlers), he's unkempt and scruffy and has a low key personality that doesn't really jump off the screen. The fact that he's eminently likeable and sympathetic, as well as being a great wrestler, just isn't as important to Vince, when it comes to being the face of the company. There does seem to be an element of pettiness to it as well, because Bryan got himself over, in spite of being given some junk storylines. Whereas all the guys the WWE tried to push as top stars, have always brought conflicting reactions out of crowds. I don't think it's directed at Bryan, so much as at the ungrateful fans who reject Cena and Orton in favour of him. Vince is not going to find another Stone Cold Steve Austin or Rock, because those guys were once in a lifetime personalities, and graced the business during what was arguably it's biggest ever period of success. You have to settle for the next best thing, and in guys like Bryan, Ambrose, Rollins and Reigns (providing he improves in the ring), I think the WWE could have a very serviceable, popular core of main eventers for years to come. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 19, 2014 9:00:00 GMT -5
Bryan is John Cena in a smaller package who dabbles in MMA rather than weightlifting/bodybuilding. Idk why Vince doesn't see that.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 19, 2014 9:00:43 GMT -5
Let's let him actually get healthy and back first.
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Post by Starshine on Sept 19, 2014 9:02:04 GMT -5
I honestly wonder if there's some slight resentment against Bryan for getting over despite them and forcing them to change their original plans. They seemed to try taking away his exclusivity to the "yes" chants. They kept him out of the Rumble. Even after he won the title at Mania they stuck him in one of the crappiest feuds with Kane. For a guy who made such a genuine connection with the crowd and became as popular as he did, WWE really didn't do him a lot of favors until they were forced to.
Yet, Roman Reigns simply existing makes him immediately the next biggest thing ever.
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Post by g1megatronfan on Sept 19, 2014 9:05:58 GMT -5
Because McMahon likes big buff bigger than real life action figures. Daniel Bryan looks like a normal dude who could be your next door neighbor in a nice suburban neighborhood. Even smaller guys he's went with had a certain look to them. Bret Hart looked like he could be an athlete of some kind...Angle too. Punk even had a certain look to him that didn't look ordinary.
Bryan looks like he could be your mailman. McMahon doesn't like that.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Sept 19, 2014 9:13:32 GMT -5
Because he's hurt.
I don't know how much that needs to be said, haha. It is something that is completely out of Bryan's (and WWE for that matter) control. Short of the Wrestling Gawd JBL rising from the commentary table and healing him, it's just not possible right now. I get it, Roman sucks, he's no good, etc. BUT you have to try to make new guys. Bryan isn't an option right now no matter how much we or WWE want him to be. You have to work with the tools that you have and that's WWE is doing by building up guys like Roman and Ambrose. I can't fault them for that.
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Sept 19, 2014 9:15:08 GMT -5
Because McMahon likes big buff bigger than real life action figures. Daniel Bryan looks like a normal dude who could be your next door neighbor in a nice suburban neighborhood. Even smaller guys he's went with had a certain look to them. Bret Hart looked like he could be an athlete of some kind...Angle too. Punk even had a certain look to him that didn't look ordinary. Bryan looks like he could be your mailman. McMahon doesn't like that. I don't think they'd let a mailman have a beard like that. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 19, 2014 9:16:43 GMT -5
Because he's hurt. I don't know how much that needs to be said, haha. It is something that is completely out of Bryan's (and WWE for that matter) control. Short of the Wrestling Gawd JBL rising from the commentary table and healing him, it's just not possible right now. I get it, Roman sucks, he's no good, etc. BUT you have to try to make new guys. Bryan isn't an option right now no matter how much we or WWE want him to be. You have to work with the tools that you have and that's WWE is doing by building up guys like Roman and Ambrose. I can't fault them for that. He's hurt. But it's on WWE for not capitalizing on him sooner. Bryan has been more over than anyone else on the roster ever since 18 seconds. They should've built him up to be the guy then and there. And yes, Roman sucks, and he's no good. WWE does need new guys, but there are so many better options than Reigns. I wouldn't mind Roman if he was being built just to hold down the fort until Bryan comes back, but WWE wants him to be "the guy" and I just don't see it. If he were white and not related to the Rock, he probably wouldn't get a second glance. |
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 19, 2014 9:18:20 GMT -5
I agree that there is some cosmetic aspect to it-Bryan just doesn't have that "total package" kind of appeal that Vince clearly tends to favor. But I'm a bit more divided on the idea of Vince being resentful of Bryan getting over. I think its not so much that Bryan got over on his own as it was the TIMING of when he got seriously over. My main argument for that is that Batista's return was obviously planned well in advance, and the intent was for Dave to come back as a conquering hero-DB's feud with the Wyatt Family was pretty obviously meant to clear the way for Dave to ascend to the main event at WM. The problem was that by then Bryan was just too over for it to work. I can actually appreciate that Vince and co. were reluctant to overturn months of planning and just do things on the fly, but I also think they should have seen that Bryan was slowly getting more and more over with the crowd and been prepared for it.
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Post by Push R Truth on Sept 19, 2014 9:19:08 GMT -5
Bryan already was "the guy".
He beat HHH and later wrestled again the same night and won the WWE Title in the main event at Wrestlemania 30.
Seriously, if that isn't "The Guy" than what in the blue hell does Bryan have to do? He's just hurt, that's all.
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Post by Adam Black on Sept 19, 2014 9:19:23 GMT -5
because John Cena
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Sept 19, 2014 9:20:41 GMT -5
Because he's hurt. I don't know how much that needs to be said, haha. It is something that is completely out of Bryan's (and WWE for that matter) control. Short of the Wrestling Gawd JBL rising from the commentary table and healing him, it's just not possible right now. I get it, Roman sucks, he's no good, etc. BUT you have to try to make new guys. Bryan isn't an option right now no matter how much we or WWE want him to be. You have to work with the tools that you have and that's WWE is doing by building up guys like Roman and Ambrose. I can't fault them for that. He's hurt. But it's on WWE for not capitalizing on him sooner. Oh, I agree. They dicked around too long with Bryan. But, to be completely fair to them, they were honestly trying to portray him as "THE GUY" after he won the title at Mania. I don't think they were trying to sabotage him with that Kane feud, they really are just that dumb and thought it was a perfectly acceptable feud for the hottest face in your company. It was incompetence, not lack of effort. |
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Post by Savage Gambino on Sept 19, 2014 9:21:13 GMT -5
For all intents and purposes, I think Bryan WAS intended to be "the guy". He has great matches, he's servicable on the mic, and most importantly, he has the crowd eating out of the palm of his hand every night.
The only reason he isn't "the guy" right now is he's hurt. I imagine his spot will be waiting on him once he gets back.
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Sept 19, 2014 9:26:32 GMT -5
Maybe it's just me, but I couldn't care less if Bryan ever becomes THE guy or not. As long as he still wrestles great matches and is booked well (as in always being a credible threat, but not in a superhuman Cena/Reigns sense) when he comes back, I'm satisfied. Besides, there are more pressing issues with the whole system that need to be fixed first before worrying about who the next "THE guy" should be.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 19, 2014 9:28:13 GMT -5
Given the nature of his injuries, it's likely his momentum would've still had to have been derailed at some point unfortunately.
I agree a good run from say SummerFest to the Rumble would have been great.. though that still wouldn't have anointed him.
No one is gonna be the guy till Cena CAN'T be. That's pretty clear.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Sept 19, 2014 9:33:10 GMT -5
He's not Vince's choice, that's the main reason. That said, there is absolutely no reason that he can't be this generation's Bret Hart, the guy who becomes 'the guy' every time Vince's choice for the next face of the company falls flat because the fans like him more.
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Post by TheSchattenjager on Sept 19, 2014 9:35:29 GMT -5
He's short and funny-looking.
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