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Post by Deleted on Sept 20, 2014 14:17:52 GMT -5
Tough one for me. I recognize the easy money is in Sting, but I have to go with Bret Hart. He's got an iconic look, he's 100% dedicated to his craft and is a guy who really legitimizes pro wrestling as an art form. Shawn Michaels I think shares these qualities as well but I don't think he has that same aura as Bret did, it doesn't click right away that Shawn Michaels is as good as he is until you see his work. I like Sting in his prime but if I'm in charge of an organization I can't pass on Bret because he pretty much embodies everything I love about wrestling.
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Post by DASH 243✅ on Sept 20, 2014 19:12:29 GMT -5
gotta be sting he knows robocop
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Post by dav on Sept 20, 2014 19:38:29 GMT -5
Since I'd want to make money, just go for Sting. Guy was a better draw than the other two and had zero of their baggage.
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Post by Phil Parent on Sept 22, 2014 16:03:04 GMT -5
Great question.
The best character with the widest appeal is Sting. If you want to make money selling action figures and masks/paint sets and t-shirts, you go with Sting. However, he needs a worker to get him through his matches, especially in his surfer phase, which is what you'd want here.
The most dedicated, dependable worker is Bret. If you want a guy you can stick in the main event every night and then leave that match to him because you know he'll get it done right, you want Bret. However, character-wise, looking back, there isn't much there. In many ways, the Bret Hart character was a cooler, more colorful Verne Gagne.
The flashier worker is Shawn Michaels. If you want a guy who will make the crowd pop with his athleticism, you take Shawn. However, in his prime, Shawn had the substance abuse, he had the attitude problem, he had the health issues, he had some reliability issues... and he was never a face in the classical sense of the word. Shawn Michaels never turned face before his second run, the fans turned heel and cheered him.
The way I handle this is I look at the rest of my roster. What do I need? Do I need the merchandise sales more, or do I need a ring general more? So depending on what I need more, I take either Sting or Bret.
And if I could, and I have a strong locker room that could control Shawn and his issues, then I take Shawn too, because no matter who I take as my top face, he can work with them as my top heel, and it'd be awesome.
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Post by lionheart21 on Sept 22, 2014 17:11:30 GMT -5
Like mentioned already, Sting was more charismatic and likable than Bret was, and Shawn has made for a better heel.
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Post by Beebs is the Final Girl on Sept 22, 2014 20:48:27 GMT -5
Surfer Sting for sure. Bret and Shawn are too good at being heels.
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Post by Ryushinku on Sept 23, 2014 5:14:06 GMT -5
Got to go with Sting. Bret's a superior worker but the Stinger outstrips him in excitement and charisma, while HBK is just too good at the jerky heel stuff for me to have him as babyface.
Prime Sting vs Prime HBK for a feud? Blimey.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 23, 2014 13:52:34 GMT -5
Sting for sure.
But HBK or Bret Hart would be top heels in a heartbeat. They were terrific faces, but as heels they really rocked the shit.
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Post by auph10imitated on Sept 23, 2014 15:40:10 GMT -5
I was always Team WWF over Team WCW and I still pick Sting by a mile.
Surfer Sting had that perfect top babyface hero charisma, he had a little bit of Warrior, little bit of Hogan and a little bit of Bret in him that gave him the all round top star, he was colorful (see face paint, colorful attires) like Warrior that gave that 90's appeal, he could play the all american style babyface like Hogan and he could do well as the underdog like Bret but be more like-able doing it.
I think my favorite Bret period was his singles run as IC champion in 1991-1992, he was cool and quite bad ass looking (despite being in pink) he was like the silent moody guy, he just felt cooler and while I liked him from 1993-1996, he just wasnt as cool as he came the (somewhat) smiley underdog. I didnt connect as much with him. Then he just became miserable and bitter and fit into his heel character in 1997 so great.
Shawn was always better a heel, 1992-1995 was awesome. As a babyface, like Bret, I liked him. Just no where near as much and then again by 1997 he slipped into his real persona and imagine much like Bret and excelled.
Crow Sting was cool, Undertaker mysterious cool. But overall to pick your "hero" and top babyface Surfer Sting had all the tools, the look, the gimmick, the charisma and the popularity.
In fact someone mentioned him as the person they would have replaced Luger with to slam Yokozuna in 1993 and I think that swould have been the perfect scenario and perfect person to replace Hogan with and run with the ball. Shame that never would have happened.
Sting vs Yokozuna, Sting vs Lex Luger, Sting vs Bret, Sting vs Shawn Michaels, Sting vs Diesel, Sting vs Undertaker, Sting vs Bam Bam Bigelow, Sting vs Mr Perfect, Sting vs Randy Savage, Sting vs Owen Hart, Sting vs Razor Ramon.. all around 1993-1994 etc would have really been pretty cool.
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Post by lemonyellowson on Sept 23, 2014 20:42:27 GMT -5
hbk - face or heel you have him on board to be a perennial anything, you take him first.
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Post by eDemento2099 on Sept 24, 2014 15:12:47 GMT -5
When was Sting's prime? The early 90s? The late 90s? His time in TNA? Sting has been consistently good. If he had a low point in his career, my guess is that time would have been the mid-90s, and that wasn't even his fault: It was WCW's fault, for having him wrestle lower midcard guys like John Tenta, Big Bubba Rogers, Ed Leslie, etc. Character-wise, I think Sting reached the height of his career in the late 90s when he returned from self-imposed hiatus as 'Crow' Sting, and took on the nWo.
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Post by nisidhe on Sept 25, 2014 19:24:07 GMT -5
I voted Bret because, while Sting would be the better choice all around, Bret had more international appeal (not just Canada, as some here may have said, but throughout Europe, Japan, etc.) and would have made better gates worldwide. He's also the kind of wrestler you'd prefer for a long, Hoganesque run in order to build up your midcard and tag-team divisions to provide potential challengers. Sting would be preferable as a chaser-turned-champion.
There is _no_ way that I could trust a mid-90s Shawn Michaels with my world title. He was unreliable during those years and was locker-room poison to boot. Sure, he could go very well in the ring, move merch like crazy and drew big bucks - but I want someone at the top who isn't going to "lose his smile" and forfeit a belt once a year and send all that crashing down time and again.
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