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Post by Sc on Sept 21, 2014 21:54:23 GMT -5
Didn't see the show but reading this seems to imply that they didn't foolishly job Cena out to Lesnar again. Good.
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Post by Starshine on Sept 21, 2014 21:54:34 GMT -5
This is why I hate the fact they have a PPV called Hell in a Cell.
Because god forbid you give the booking process a little more flexibility to do it beyond that small window.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 21, 2014 21:55:18 GMT -5
Yes they didn't want Lesnar to kill Cena twice in a row because they wanted to end this feud at Hell In A Cell and having Cena get destroyed again would have meant there'd be no reason to do the match again Easy solution to that. Don't do the match again! Lesnar's had roughly ten matches since coming back, why do four of them have to be with Cena? Given he'd be facing Big Show, probably... Give me Cena #453 if it prevents that.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 21, 2014 21:55:21 GMT -5
Posting this here too: In the end, all the highlights of this PPV are overshadowed by the fact that we are supposed to believe Cena is at Brocks level, when a month ago, it was established, cleanly, that he wasn't. But After a month of doing NOTHING but run his mouth, be a dick, and overall be the most unlikable piece of cancer in wrestling, Cena has to be screwed out of his victory with Lesnar. F*** you WWE, this is the reason people hate what you've become. Any time you have anything that might be promising it is shoved aside for the status quo, and that is Cena, after nearly 10 years of it, we're all sick of it. You're all a bunch of F***ing morons, I wish WCW had survived, because without competition, you've become more and more unbearable /rant To be fair to em, they did have Brock up on his feet after the curb stomp and the whole 'he's not human' thing. So there is that at least.
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Post by Jiren on Sept 21, 2014 21:55:48 GMT -5
f*** CENA!!!!, JUST f*** OFF!!!!
That's all I have
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Post by Deleted on Sept 21, 2014 21:56:23 GMT -5
Easy solution to that. Don't do the match again! Lesnar's had roughly ten matches since coming back, why do four of them have to be with Cena? Well then let's see you come up with another opponent for Lesnar for Hell In A Cell that isn't Cena, and I guess isn't Big Show either since everyone here was up in arms about that one too. Exactly, he doesn't exist. Sit out Hell in a Cell. At Survivor Series, go ahead with Big Show. Or Ziggler, or Sheamus, or whoever. Ambrose. Why not? It's not like there's anyone who's actually taking the thing, you might as well experiment and try new things instead of doing the same match over and over and over and over.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Sept 21, 2014 21:56:40 GMT -5
I told myself I was going to avoid all wrestling forums and columns for tonight so I wouldn't have to see the complaining that seems to always come after a pay-per-view I wish I listened to myself Well then let's see you come up with another opponent for Lesnar for Hell In A Cell that isn't Cena, and I guess isn't Big Show either since everyone here was up in arms about that one too. Exactly, he doesn't exist. Sit out Hell in a Cell. At Survivor Series, go ahead with Big Show. Or Ziggler, or Sheamus, or whoever. Ambrose. Why not? It's not like there's anyone who's actually taking the thing, you might as well experiment and try new things instead of doing the same match over and over and over and over. If Lesnar murders Cena twice, why the f*** should I expect Dolph Ziggler to have a chance in hell of even touching him? It's a waste of a Lesnar match that does nothing for the guy's mystique. And Sheamus is US Champion so he wouldn't be facing Lesnar either, nor should Ambrose who shouldn't lose in that fashion.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Sept 21, 2014 21:56:57 GMT -5
Posting this here too: In the end, all the highlights of this PPV are overshadowed by the fact that we are supposed to believe Cena is at Brocks level, when a month ago, it was established, cleanly, that he wasn't. But After a month of doing NOTHING but run his mouth, be a dick, and overall be the most unlikable piece of cancer in wrestling, Cena has to be screwed out of his victory with Lesnar. F*** you WWE, this is the reason people hate what you've become. Any time you have anything that might be promising it is shoved aside for the status quo, and that is Cena, after nearly 10 years of it, we're all sick of it. You're all a bunch of F***ing morons, I wish WCW had survived, because without competition, you've become more and more unbearable /rant To be fair to em, they did have Brock up on his feet after the curb stomp and the whole 'he's not human' thing. So there is that at least. Doesn't matter when the commentary team will be shoving "WAS JOHN CENA ABOUT TO WIN??" down our throats, so really, f*** this.
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Post by khali on Sept 21, 2014 21:57:08 GMT -5
I can't week to hear weeks of BUT DID CENA HAVE HIM BEAT DID CENA HAVE HIM BEAT all over TV.
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Post by Jiren on Sept 21, 2014 21:57:22 GMT -5
Well then let's see you come up with another opponent for Lesnar for Hell In A Cell that isn't Cena, and I guess isn't Big Show either since everyone here was up in arms about that one too. Exactly, he doesn't exist. Sit out Hell in a Cell. At Survivor Series, go ahead with Big Show. Or Ziggler, or Sheamus, or whoever. Ambrose. Why not? It's not like there's anyone who's actually taking the thing, you might as well experiment and try new things instead of doing the same match over and over and over and over. WWE try new things? Your talking madness man
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Post by BRV on Sept 21, 2014 21:57:32 GMT -5
I get that they probably want to blow this feud off in a Hell in a Cell match at the next pay-per-view, but that in no way justifies bilking people out of their money for a total schmozz finish.
They keep doing this over and over with the bait-and-switches at B-level pay-per-views to build to the A-level pay-per-view. Remember when Seth Rollins and Dean Ambrose were supposed to have a match at Battleground? Then the Battleground match never happened and was essentially a build to their actual match at SummerSlam? Tonight was no different.
Continuing to do this is going to drive people away from ordering these B-level shows. People are going to order WrestleMania because it's WrestleMania, SummerSlam because it's SummerSlam, and the Royal Rumble because it's the Royal Rumble. But if you clearly and continually display a pattern of showing that these B-level events are essentially just episodes of Sunday Night Raw building to the next PPV, then people are going to stop ordering.
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Post by FinalGwen on Sept 21, 2014 21:57:34 GMT -5
Easy solution to that. Don't do the match again! Lesnar's had roughly ten matches since coming back, why do four of them have to be with Cena? Well then let's see you come up with another opponent for Lesnar for Hell In A Cell that isn't Cena, and I guess isn't Big Show either since everyone here was up in arms about that one too. Exactly, he doesn't exist. Literally anyone. You could do a Battle Royale next week and have the winner go through to face Brock. You could go the route of throwing a hoss at him, to try and match his power like Sheamus, Cesaro, Big E, Rusev, Ryback, etc. Or go the underdog route, someone smaller who wins like Ziggler or Kofi, them celebrating then realising they're going to have to go up against Brock. Even if they're obviously doomed, it's still a more interesting build than invincible Cena. Have them look brave in defeat, and it'd probably do more for them in a loss than a win in the perpetual midcard.
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Post by BorneAgain on Sept 21, 2014 21:59:04 GMT -5
The thing is to me is just how lazy the process is. Cena training hard these last four weeks, not being on every show, holding himself accountable for his loss at Summerslam, and giving it to Brock as hard as he possibly could and with the same aggressiveness in the build towards Extreme Rules 2012; that would have earned that performance Cena gave.
But instead they did the same booking and activated the game genie Cena comeback code.
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Post by . on Sept 21, 2014 21:59:13 GMT -5
Posting this here too: In the end, all the highlights of this PPV are overshadowed by the fact that we are supposed to believe Cena is at Brocks level, when a month ago, it was established, cleanly, that he wasn't. But After a month of doing NOTHING but run his mouth, be a dick, and overall be the most unlikable piece of cancer in wrestling, Cena has to be screwed out of his victory with Lesnar. F*** you WWE, this is the reason people hate what you've become. Any time you have anything that might be promising it is shoved aside for the status quo, and that is Cena, after nearly 10 years of it, we're all sick of it. You're all a bunch of F***ing morons, I wish WCW had survived, because without competition, you've become more and more unbearable /rant Post of the f***ing year. Nail on the head.
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Post by bearned on Sept 21, 2014 22:00:16 GMT -5
It just shows how dumb it was to have Brock squash him in the first match. How can you go from that to Super Cena this time round?!
Cena got dominated almost as much as he did in the first match but was somehow able to magically recover enough this time to AA Lesnar multiple times?! He was even able to recover from getting hit with a briefcase to stop Rollins.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Sept 21, 2014 22:00:18 GMT -5
I didn't think it was as bad as some do. Brock came in overconfident after last month (which he should), while Cena came in with a new game plan. Brock still dominated but Cena picked his spots and made them count. Brock still should have won clean and let us move the f*** on from this but it is Cena and it won't end until someone rips the door off HIAC and distracts him from Lesnar.
Everything about it worked, it just wasn't worth seeing.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Sept 21, 2014 22:01:27 GMT -5
They announcers never should have been mentioned Brock was going to tap out (not just because Cena was going for a pinfall and it looked like Brock was kicking out anyway)
but overall the story pretty much seemed to be despite Cena actually getting offense in this time Brock was pretty much shrugging it all off.
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Post by Jiren on Sept 21, 2014 22:02:05 GMT -5
They have a self telling story in their f***ing hands, And they'll do anything to screw it up
f*** YOU VINCE
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Post by . on Sept 21, 2014 22:03:15 GMT -5
They announcers never should have been mentioned Brock was going to tap out (not just because Cena was going for a pinfall and it looked like Brock was kicking out anyway) but overall the story pretty much seemed to be despite Cena actually getting offense in this time Brock was pretty much shrugging it all off. No the story was Cena using his fable and feared AA/STF combo. The announcers threw away anything else and shouted at it as you said. Also vintage Cena no sell
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Post by Phil Parent on Sept 21, 2014 22:03:23 GMT -5
I didn't think it was as bad as some do. Brock came in overconfident after last month (which he should), while Cena came in with a new game plan. Brock still dominated but Cena picked his spots and made them count. Brock still should have won clean and let us move the f*** on from this but it is Cena and it won't end until someone rips the door off HIAC and distracts him from Lesnar. Everything about it worked, it just wasn't worth seeing. Great analysis, I agree.
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