jmule
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Post by jmule on Sept 22, 2014 11:24:54 GMT -5
Did the ref really botch that 3 count between Hogan n Andre and they just added it to the story or was it supposed to be part of the story to begin with?
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Post by CeilingFan on Sept 22, 2014 11:28:24 GMT -5
It seemed more like a botch.
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Post by tonymorrisonphd on Sept 22, 2014 11:47:17 GMT -5
A botch which they smoothly co-opted into a storyline.
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Post by willyjakes on Sept 22, 2014 11:52:33 GMT -5
Nothing botched about it. Hogan was supposed to squirm out and Andre and Heenan were supposed to have a legit beef about a missed 3 count that cost them the title. This was to protect Andre who was going to go down cleanly.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2014 11:56:39 GMT -5
I never saw it as a botch. This and the headbutt to the ring post protected Andre from looking like Vader '95 when Hogan pinned him.
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Post by James Fabiano on Sept 22, 2014 16:42:14 GMT -5
Brother, when that 900 pound Giant fell on me, I collapsed a lung and almost forgot to kick out, dude!
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Post by "Playboy" Don Douglas on Sept 22, 2014 20:52:37 GMT -5
Yeah, I always saw it as someone being clever. Not only does it give them something extra in the angle going forward, it gives an early "holy shit" moment at a time when something like that could still be done.
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Capt Lunatic
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Sept 23, 2014 5:01:07 GMT -5
Andre legit died when Hogan tried to lift him that first time. It's a real tribute to Hogan's skill that he pulled a good match out of a corpse. Andre came back to life briefly at the end to hand over his World Heavyweight title to the new champion. He passed away shortly after.
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Post by Boo! on Sept 23, 2014 5:21:21 GMT -5
I don't get how it could be a botch as it was a count of two and nine-tenths but it wasn't a three. I guess it shows the lack of faith in wrestlers whereby we all think their ability to successfully execute an agonisingly close count must have been a "botch"
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Post by mybraveface on Sept 23, 2014 5:53:44 GMT -5
I've seen the match minus the commentary on the "History Of WWE" 50th anniversary DVD, and it did sound like a three-count but Hogan kicked out right when the ref's hand landed the third time. Whether it was a botch or not, well, one has to ask Hogan or Heenan. Or maybe Ventura.
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jmule
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Post by jmule on Sept 23, 2014 6:22:44 GMT -5
I've seen the match minus the commentary on the "History Of WWE" 50th anniversary DVD, and it did sound like a three-count but Hogan kicked out right when the ref's hand landed the third time. Whether it was a botch or not, well, one has to ask Hogan or Heenan. Or maybe Ventura. We could ask Hogan but I'm sure he'll give us 26 versions of the story |
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Post by DjZonk on Sept 23, 2014 8:56:38 GMT -5
Steph would know too.
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Post by jmule on Sept 23, 2014 9:03:29 GMT -5
How would Steph know? She wasn't watching the match, she was playing with uncle Randy... |
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Post by thegame415 on Sept 23, 2014 9:05:01 GMT -5
Evan Karagias was at WrestleMania 3?
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Post by DjZonk on Sept 24, 2014 2:28:16 GMT -5
How would Steph know? She wasn't watching the match, she was playing with uncle Randy... What do you think they spoke about afterwards, cuddling. |
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Post by jmule on Sept 24, 2014 6:21:33 GMT -5
How would Steph know? She wasn't watching the match, she was playing with uncle Randy... What do you think they spoke about afterwards, cuddling. Oh no....ohnononono... |
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Post by Boo! on Sept 24, 2014 9:06:39 GMT -5
I thought he meant because if anyone knows what it's like to be under a wrestler for an inappropriate time, it's Steph!
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Post by jmule on Sept 24, 2014 9:19:46 GMT -5
Steph was about 8 yrs old at the time so...i was applying savage was bouncing Steph on his knee while Liz made cookies...
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2014 10:02:48 GMT -5
I don't get how it could be a botch as it was a count of two and nine-tenths but it wasn't a three. I guess it shows the lack of faith in wrestlers whereby we all think their ability to successfully execute an agonisingly close count must have been a "botch" That's exactly what I saw. Nothing botched about it. The funniest thing to me is how Andre argues with the ref while holding up just two fingers. |
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Sept 28, 2014 1:54:57 GMT -5
It was a two count because that idiot Marella can't even count to 3.
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