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Post by lildude8218 on Oct 29, 2014 1:48:31 GMT -5
TLC needs to find something to fill the Honey Boo Boo hole.
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Post by thetower52 on Oct 29, 2014 2:57:44 GMT -5
This is a long week
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Post by bluemeii on Oct 29, 2014 9:37:10 GMT -5
Come on, just take what you can get . Catch I know you don't want them to go out of business, but you gotta admit that's a terrible idea. If they had a permanent home they weren't paying rent for ok I could go with that. They don't anymore. You can cut back on production as much as you want and all that but it still costs money. If something like 1/4 of what they were getting before is the best they can do, they are going to be worse off than ECW was in their deal with TNN.
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Post by Push R Truth on Oct 29, 2014 10:09:07 GMT -5
The TV Deal is the new Duke Nukeum Forever
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 29, 2014 12:50:35 GMT -5
Come on, just take what you can get . Catch I know you don't want them to go out of business, but you gotta admit that's a terrible idea. If they had a permanent home they weren't paying rent for ok I could go with that. They don't anymore. You can cut back on production as much as you want and all that but it still costs money. If something like 1/4 of what they were getting before is the best they can do, they are going to be worse off than ECW was in their deal with TNN. I just can't accept that they're going to die and that a bunch of wrestlers are going to be without jobs.
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Oct 29, 2014 15:01:04 GMT -5
I don't think they're gonna die, at least not right away, but they're gonna definitly be in a way lower position with a TV Deal with a channel most people don't even get. That's of course assuming they're getting a new TV deal anywhere.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 29, 2014 15:02:54 GMT -5
I don't think they're gonna die, at least not right away, but they're gonna definitly be in a way lower position with a TV Deal with a channel most people don't even get. That's of course assuming they're getting a new TV deal anywhere. And I'd honestly rather see that than for them to fold at the end of the year. And if they don't get a deal, I'd rather they continue as an "indy" of sorts.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 15:18:25 GMT -5
Spike was TNA's life preserver for a long time, without a deal that's anywhere close to their current one, they're dead for all intents and purposes. Face it, no one is buying their PPV's, no one is going to their house shows, they don't do good enough ratings to make them valuable for a network, and Janice budget cut that thing all to hell, therefore the pay for the talent is in the shithouse and thus a lot of wrestlers don't want to work there.
Synopsis: they dead.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Oct 29, 2014 15:20:14 GMT -5
Catch I know you don't want them to go out of business, but you gotta admit that's a terrible idea. If they had a permanent home they weren't paying rent for ok I could go with that. They don't anymore. You can cut back on production as much as you want and all that but it still costs money. If something like 1/4 of what they were getting before is the best they can do, they are going to be worse off than ECW was in their deal with TNN. I just can't accept that they're going to die and that a bunch of wrestlers are going to be without jobs. If they are any good, they won't be without jobs.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 29, 2014 15:24:20 GMT -5
I just can't accept that they're going to die and that a bunch of wrestlers are going to be without jobs. If they are any good, they won't be without jobs. To me it's just that these guys are good enough to be featured on a decent sized stage, but their skill sets aren't all that conducive to any other promotions. The vets are too old for WWE and the major indies are too niche or too "workratez" oriented for certain guys.
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Post by Bravo Echo November on Oct 29, 2014 15:30:07 GMT -5
At this rate Daenarys Targaryen will reach Westeros before TNA makes an announcement.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Oct 29, 2014 15:32:43 GMT -5
If they are any good, they won't be without jobs. To me it's just that these guys are good enough to be featured on a decent sized stage, but their skill sets aren't all that conducive to any other promotions. The vets are too old for WWE and the major indies are too niche or too workrate oriented for certain guys. No, just no. Talent survives however just because TNA see someone as worth being in their company, doesn't mean they are talented. If they have any desire to be in wrestling and any bit of talent they will survive in Mexico, Japan, the UK, US indies, WWE or any other possible way while TNA suffering a well deserved death.
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Post by metylerca on Oct 29, 2014 16:21:31 GMT -5
If they are any good, they won't be without jobs. To me it's just that these guys are good enough to be featured on a decent sized stage, but their skill sets aren't all that conducive to any other promotions. The vets are too old for WWE and the major indies are too niche or too "workratez" oriented for certain guys. "Workrate" in this case being considered a bad thing. Indies fans DESERVE WWE mid 2000's cookie cutter style, moves for the hard camera and formulaic match structures. They deserve to see exactly what they sought alternatives to in the first place to appease one guy who thinks Curt Hawkins didn't get a fair shake. I don't get this. If TNA dies, it's because they deserved to. Yes, deserved.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 29, 2014 16:30:19 GMT -5
To me it's just that these guys are good enough to be featured on a decent sized stage, but their skill sets aren't all that conducive to any other promotions. The vets are too old for WWE and the major indies are too niche or too "workratez" oriented for certain guys. "Workrate" in this case being considered a bad thing. Indies fans DESERVE WWE mid 2000's cookie cutter style, moves for the hard camera and formulaic match structures. They deserve to see exactly what they sought alternatives to in the first place to appease one guy who thinks Curt Hawkins didn't get a fair shake. I don't get this. If TNA dies, it's because they deserved to. Yes, deserved. Didn't say it was a bad thing. Just that I think there should be a place for these guys who can't really fit anywhere else. I know that guys like EC3 or Samuel Shaw wouldn't fit in a place like RoH, PWG, or Evolve/Dragon Gate but there should be a place for them. And there are workers like Low Ki and Davey Richards who have pretty much napalmed all their bridges (granted they've developed the reputation for being colossal asshats), but they still have undeniable talent. I don't care for them much, but someone out there does. Shouldn't they be able to shine somewhere? These aren't the absolute best guys in the world, but they still have a place in wrestling and still have their fans who want to see them work.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Oct 29, 2014 16:57:28 GMT -5
"Workrate" in this case being considered a bad thing. Indies fans DESERVE WWE mid 2000's cookie cutter style, moves for the hard camera and formulaic match structures. They deserve to see exactly what they sought alternatives to in the first place to appease one guy who thinks Curt Hawkins didn't get a fair shake. I don't get this. If TNA dies, it's because they deserved to. Yes, deserved. Didn't say it was a bad thing. Just that I think there should be a place for these guys who can't really fit anywhere else. I know that guys like EC3 or Samuel Shaw wouldn't fit in a place like RoH, PWG, or Evolve/Dragon Gate but there should be a place for them. And there are workers like Low Ki and Davey Richards who have pretty much napalmed all their bridges (granted they've developed the reputation for being colossal asshats), but they still have undeniable talent. I don't care for them much, but someone out there does. Shouldn't they be able to shine somewhere? These aren't the absolute best guys in the world, but they still have a place in wrestling and still have their fans who want to see them work. PWG may take Richards, Evolve may take Low Ki, I could see Shaw going a minor indy the same with EC3
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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 17:17:13 GMT -5
"Workrate" in this case being considered a bad thing. Indies fans DESERVE WWE mid 2000's cookie cutter style, moves for the hard camera and formulaic match structures. They deserve to see exactly what they sought alternatives to in the first place to appease one guy who thinks Curt Hawkins didn't get a fair shake. I don't get this. If TNA dies, it's because they deserved to. Yes, deserved. Didn't say it was a bad thing. Just that I think there should be a place for these guys who can't really fit anywhere else. I know that guys like EC3 or Samuel Shaw wouldn't fit in a place like RoH, PWG, or Evolve/Dragon Gate but there should be a place for them. And there are workers like Low Ki and Davey Richards who have pretty much napalmed all their bridges (granted they've developed the reputation for being colossal asshats), but they still have undeniable talent. I don't care for them much, but someone out there does. Shouldn't they be able to shine somewhere? These aren't the absolute best guys in the world, but they still have a place in wrestling and still have their fans who want to see them work. Unless they quit wrestling, fans will still have the chance to see them work. Wrestling on national television isn't an inalienable right. If the free market says certain guys don't have a place on a big stage, then it simply is what it is.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Nov 5, 2014 11:14:31 GMT -5
So ... weeks are over 46 days long right?
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 7, 2014 16:13:52 GMT -5
Would there really be much of a negotiation?
Wouldn't it just be TNA saying "please please please please!!!?"
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Post by Gravedigger's Biscuits on Nov 7, 2014 16:19:13 GMT -5
Spike was TNA's life preserver for a long time.... A tasty, golden life preserver?
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Post by Hawk Hart on Nov 7, 2014 16:21:25 GMT -5
I told you guys, it's the EWR strategy, Dixie can only send out one promo tape a month and she keeps aiming for the stars while local cable access is right there like "You guys can have a whole day of programming if you want!"
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