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Post by ICBM on Sept 26, 2014 21:04:41 GMT -5
Hmm...well. I am impressed with his balls. I am more impressed that someone green lit and funded such an absurd premise
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Post by DSR on Sept 26, 2014 21:20:13 GMT -5
Part of me thinks this type of movie works the best inside the creator's own head. Sure, this would be an absolutely horrific thing having done to you.... but, it comes off more comedic and sadistic to a viewing audience. You don't really get the real horror of it, because you always want to see the end result.. untainted, without any concessions made. In the creator's mind, we're supposed to feel like the person having this done to them, to feel their terror, pain and helplessness... but we just plain don't. It's why Human Centipede was one of those movies where you saw it as an oddity, not as the beginning of this new amazing franchise or genre in horror. I dunno, that's just my problem with it. The idea, itself, is awesomely creepy... but it seems like it's a case where no matter how well it's done, what you devise for it in your own head will always make what's on screen seem a little unrewarding. I was genuinely creeped out by just a couple of seconds in the trailer, where Michael Parks is standing next to a guard rail laughing maniacally while water splashes in front of him. I knew he had succeeded in creating his man/walrus...thing, but I had no idea what it looked like. And that let my mind go kinda nuts with the idea. And then the actual image of it gets posted on the internet, and I just go "Is this an SNL sketch?" Also: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}SIMPSONS DID IT!
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 26, 2014 21:32:33 GMT -5
Part of me thinks this type of movie works the best inside the creator's own head. Sure, this would be an absolutely horrific thing having done to you.... but, it comes off more comedic and sadistic to a viewing audience. You don't really get the real horror of it, because you always want to see the end result.. untainted, without any concessions made. In the creator's mind, we're supposed to feel like the person having this done to them, to feel their terror, pain and helplessness... but we just plain don't. It's why Human Centipede was one of those movies where you saw it as an oddity, not as the beginning of this new amazing franchise or genre in horror. I dunno, that's just my problem with it. The idea, itself, is awesomely creepy... but it seems like it's a case where no matter how well it's done, what you devise for it in your own head will always make what's on screen seem a little unrewarding. I was genuinely creeped out by just a couple of seconds in the trailer, where Michael Parks is standing next to a guard rail laughing maniacally while water splashes in front of him. I knew he had succeeded in creating his man/walrus...thing, but I had no idea what it looked like. And that let my mind go kinda nuts with the idea. And then the actual image of it gets posted on the internet, and I just go "Is this an SNL sketch?" The ending spoilers made me think of an SNL skit too.
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 26, 2014 21:46:48 GMT -5
Part of me thinks this type of movie works the best inside the creator's own head. Sure, this would be an absolutely horrific thing having done to you.... but, it comes off more comedic and sadistic to a viewing audience. You don't really get the real horror of it, because you always want to see the end result.. untainted, without any concessions made. In the creator's mind, we're supposed to feel like the person having this done to them, to feel their terror, pain and helplessness... but we just plain don't. It's why Human Centipede was one of those movies where you saw it as an oddity, not as the beginning of this new amazing franchise or genre in horror. I dunno, that's just my problem with it. The idea, itself, is awesomely creepy... but it seems like it's a case where no matter how well it's done, what you devise for it in your own head will always make what's on screen seem a little unrewarding. I was genuinely creeped out by just a couple of seconds in the trailer, where Michael Parks is standing next to a guard rail laughing maniacally while water splashes in front of him. I knew he had succeeded in creating his man/walrus...thing, but I had no idea what it looked like. And that let my mind go kinda nuts with the idea. And then the actual image of it gets posted on the internet, and I just go "Is this an SNL sketch?" Also: {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}SIMPSONS DID IT! To be fair, context matters. When fans saw Halloween in theaters, they couldn't pause and see that... Michael Myers is just some dude. They get a fleeting glimpse, and many of them spoke to the director of how gruesome the face was, since their heads had pretty much filled in the blanks as something more terrifying to them. Compare that to Tyler Mane just standing around with a hobo beard, and it isn't difficult to see the difference. In Dusk Till Dawn, in the hotel, you actually don't really see much if you pause the movie at the flashes it shows you of the aftermath of an unseen struggle, and it works much better that way. If you pause, you basically see something you could see in most any modern haunted house with a more adult-leaning demographic, a bunch of fake blood and a body. Nothing special, except how it is framed in the context of the film. Very few horror effects work well if you just sit there and look at it outside of its original context. I haven't seen the film yet, but I am not really willing to rule it out based on the costume, which I think looks decent enough, given this wasn't the priciest film out there.
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Post by DSR on Sept 26, 2014 22:52:11 GMT -5
I suppose that's fair.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 29, 2014 13:01:41 GMT -5
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Sept 29, 2014 14:51:39 GMT -5
Man Randall Graves is his forties being a dick to customers is just gonna be a lil sad.
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Sept 29, 2014 15:55:23 GMT -5
There was buzz surrounding Tusk?
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Sept 29, 2014 15:56:52 GMT -5
There was buzz surrounding Tusk? Amongst the financiers, yes.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 17:30:27 GMT -5
.....but wait, all of the headlines I see about this Clerks 3 news is coming from the fact that "because TUSK failed, CLERKS 3 now has financial backing." No one's really playing any sort of critical success to TUSK here, but rather its financial failure. Even his quotes indicate "failing his way into CLERKS 3"......which I guess are sarcastic? The handling of this breaking news seems odd. Maybe I'm just too tuckered out to think straight or something. Now pardon me, I'm gonna go watch some FAMILY GUY, that should sharpen the ol' senses..... ;p
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Post by Mozenrath on Sept 29, 2014 18:03:32 GMT -5
Man Randall Graves is his forties being a dick to customers is just gonna be a lil sad. I sort of assume the dynamic might change a little, given they own the shops now.
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Post by Michael Coello on Sept 29, 2014 22:37:31 GMT -5
Man, we do not need a Clarks 3. 2 ended the story well enough to not need a 3.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 29, 2014 23:04:55 GMT -5
Man Randall Graves is his forties being a dick to customers is just gonna be a lil sad. I sort of assume the dynamic might change a little, given they own the shops now. If Smith continues to grow as a film maker -I enjoyed Tusk and Red State, I truly despise the first 2 Clerks films- then maybe it'll just have them openly mocking their employees until said employees cut the flesh off the characters whilst Smith screams "I can't be arsed with this franchise" from behind the camera. Seriously, I'm half expecting that to be the plot.
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Post by Grennel on Sept 30, 2014 3:00:08 GMT -5
I think Tusk can be considered a success considering the cost of the film, plus DVD sales etc. I'm certainly buying a copy.
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Post by HMARK Center on Sept 30, 2014 5:57:55 GMT -5
End of the day, I do have to give it up to Smith; dude's decided to go his own direction, has taken a "you can like it, hate it, whatever" attitude, and is simply making the movies he'd like to make. There's something kind of nice about that, even if the films aren't perfect (haven't seen Tusk yet, but I did mostly enjoy Red State).
I have to imagine Clerks III would basically be him fulfilling a lifelong dream to have an actual trilogy on his resume.
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Post by Muskrat on Sept 30, 2014 6:25:59 GMT -5
I have to imagine Clerks III would basically be him fulfilling a lifelong dream to have an actual trilogy on his resume. It was before word dropped that Clerks. 3 was funded, but last I heard he was planning on shooting Moose Jaws in January, and shooting the Depp Yoga Hosers scenes in February so I wouldn't be surprised if his True North Trilogy is completed before he starts Clerks 3
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Post by ZERO on Sept 30, 2014 7:46:12 GMT -5
Man, we do not need a Clarks 3. 2 ended the story well enough to not need a 3. I think even Smith at one point thought he had finished, but even back then, he described the first Clerks as his 20s movie, Clerks 2 as his 30's movie, and if he had a story to tell about being in his 40's, he would consider revisiting Dante & Randal to do it. I find it interesting how people perceive certain things as "Failures". Red State is a really good example of this. In terms of Box-office, it didn't do much, but the costs were already made back through Smith touring it and such that any further money generated by the movie afterwards was pure profit. Red State actually did quite well, people were looking in the wrong places.
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Sept 30, 2014 7:58:42 GMT -5
Man Randall Graves is his forties being a dick to customers is just gonna be a lil sad. I would have thought that seeing him do it in his 30's was going to be bad, but Smith actually did a pretty damn good job making me care about the characters. I'd have to think he wouldn't be doing a 3rd Clerks movie if he didn't feel he had a worthy story to tell.
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