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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 11:34:36 GMT -5
Never thought a cartoon would make me cry, but here we are.
It wasn't perfect, but goddamn, Korra was a good show.
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Post by Johnny B. Decent on Dec 19, 2014 13:28:25 GMT -5
{Spoiler}God, Mako, you're such a shitty boyfriend. You turned both of your ex'es to be lesbian and with eachother!
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Dec 19, 2014 17:00:18 GMT -5
A legit heartswelling ending.
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Post by Jeff Mangum PI on Dec 19, 2014 17:54:12 GMT -5
Just finished the finale.... {Spoiler}Did they just get away with making Korra and Asami a couple at the end?
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 19, 2014 19:18:43 GMT -5
Man, these shows are so predictable. Of course the hero ends up with the girl
Wait...
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Post by horsemen4ever on Dec 19, 2014 20:41:22 GMT -5
I thought it was a great finale, as good as A:TLA finale no, but still great in its own right.
Well it is a good start to the finale. I thought Wu's plan was pretty good, and even Meelo came up with a good idea.
Varrick and Zhu Li engaged that was nice, the is better than all of the romance in the first two seasons. And Zhu Li last name is Moon, was that a inside joke or just a coincidence, no way way when this was written and recorded that they knew that Zhu Li voice actress was the new voice of Sailor Moon. Could they?
I know there was no time, I kind like to have seen Hiroshi and Bataar Jr interact, they are in similar situation trying to make amends with their family, they are so similar yet complete opposites as they are from different generation They don't have to talk to each other, just an acknowledgement that they are in a similar place.
I had a feeling Hiroshi was going to die, especially when Asami kept saying hurry up, I thought to myself "he is not going to make it".
It was awesome battle and the new spirital portal looks beautiful. So the monarch is abandoned no surprise there, I wonder if Wu could still be a figure head king like the Earth Kingdom mascot.
I did think Kuvira finally stating her back story, it is like Zaheer and P'Li meeting last season, why so late, give us some hints through out the season The battle reminds me of Naruto vs Pain, Korra ending the cycle of hate. Well Kurvira is the only main villain that in the end realized she was wrong and owned up to her mistake. And of the two villains that survived, she went to jail knowing what she did was wrong and went there gracefully while Zaheer was ranting like a mad man. Though Zaheer now knows he screwed up, but that was much later. But everyone else, Amon tried to run away and I don't think he learned his lesson outside of I love my brother, and Unaloq he showed no resource or hints of learning anything.
Varrick and Zhu Li was beautiful I love all the cameos, who knew Tahno had that hidden talent, I love non verbal Tahno. Was Desna and Eska was there, I didn't see them, I wish they were there, Tonroq was there, and Ginger was there to, I wanted to see Opal, Eska, and Ginger in the same place, no Zuko, Izzumi, and Iroh II, no Katara, no Toph, I am sure other characters there that were missing.
And the last scene logically I was thinking I know nothing is going to happen, but I admit for a split second I thought they were going to kiss. Well in the spirit Korra and Asami, one of them can turn into a man and Nickelodeon will have no problems.
A great finale to a great I am going to miss. 10 / 10, now I guess it is onto waiting and speculating on "Smoke and Shadows".
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Post by Gerard Gerard on Dec 19, 2014 20:52:03 GMT -5
Mixed up my finales and was half expecting for Colbert to interrupt the Korrasami ending.
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 19, 2014 23:05:28 GMT -5
Man, that ending is really pretty momentous, when you think about it. Animated series on a children's network is willing to depict something just about no other show I'm aware of has depicted? Ballsy, and great to see. I've never been a shipper, but it took gumption to do that; given how quickly it came out after Book 3, you had to figure they had Book 4 ready for TV before the whole "going online-only" announcement.
I would've loved to have seen some additional things in the finale (let's face it, it would've been nice to have a 4-parter like the original series had): as stated above, some dialog between Bataar Jr. and Hiroshi would've been pretty cool, a couple extra cameos sprinkled in, maybe a brief moment where spirit-Aang appears and finally gets to see his grandkids or what have you...but they clearly dealt very well with the hand they got from Nick. Great way to depict Korra's personal maturation journey, which sets the serious very far apart from the original, which was more a traditional hero's journey, and it made you genuinely sad to think that this could potentially be it.
That said, I sincerely hope Mike and Bryan keep coming back to the Avatar universe, even if it just becomes them getting more closely involved with the ongoing comics or whatever, or maybe finding a new network to host a new series. As it was said above, Korra wasn't a perfect series: the circumstances of its very existence meant it would have some trouble finding its footing right way, with Nick only giving them 12 episodes at first, then a bunch more, then yanking their chains constantly. But the guys' skills came through with the fact that they clearly put everything they've got into whatever project they're working on; they don't half-ass it, and it shows when they can create a world, characters, and storylines that, despite any complaints any of us might have about aspects of it, we all wind up feeling really connected with by the end. That's a talent, and I hope they keep using it.
Welp...guess it's time to wait another, what, six years or something? ...Damn.
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Post by RI Richmark on Dec 19, 2014 23:30:29 GMT -5
While both series are great, I actually perfer A:LOK to A:TLA. I think it's because the most of the main characters are older than their A:TLA counterparts so I can relate to them better. The show just felt more real to me.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Dec 19, 2014 23:57:43 GMT -5
Man, that ending is really pretty momentous, when you think about it. Animated series on a children's network is willing to depict something just about no other show I'm aware of has depicted? Ballsy, and great to see. I've never been a shipper, but it took gumption to do that; given how quickly it came out after Book 3, you had to figure they had Book 4 ready for TV before the whole "going online-only" announcement. I would've loved to have seen some additional things in the finale (let's face it, it would've been nice to have a 4-parter like the original series had): as stated above, some dialog between Bataar Jr. and Hiroshi would've been pretty cool, a couple extra cameos sprinkled in, maybe a brief moment where spirit-Aang appears and finally gets to see his grandkids or what have you...but they clearly dealt very well with the hand they got from Nick. Great way to depict Korra's personal maturation journey, which sets the serious very far apart from the original, which was more a traditional hero's journey, and it made you genuinely sad to think that this could potentially be it. That said, I sincerely hope Mike and Bryan keep coming back to the Avatar universe, even if it just becomes them getting more closely involved with the ongoing comics or whatever, or maybe finding a new network to host a new series. As it was said above, Korra wasn't a perfect series: the circumstances of its very existence meant it would have some trouble finding its footing right way, with Nick only giving them 12 episodes at first, then a bunch more, then yanking their chains constantly. But the guys' skills came through with the fact that they clearly put everything they've got into whatever project they're working on; they don't half-ass it, and it shows when they can create a world, characters, and storylines that, despite any complaints any of us might have about aspects of it, we all wind up feeling really connected with by the end. That's a talent, and I hope they keep using it. Welp...guess it's time to wait another, what, six years or something? ...Damn. Very well put. I think Korra is going to age nicely over time, it did a lot to redefine what a predominantly female-driven children's series was capable of, and the audiences they can reach when they take some risks.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2014 23:58:03 GMT -5
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 20, 2014 0:06:06 GMT -5
Translation, "We don't care what gender they are, as long as they are kicking ass."
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 20, 2014 0:08:14 GMT -5
While both series are great, I actually perfer A:LOK to A:TLA. I think it's because the most of the main characters are older than their A:TLA counterparts so I can relate to them better. The show just felt more real to me. Korra's series definitely found its footing as it went; I thought Book One was incredibly ambitious and interesting, but it certainly had its flaws given its time constraints. As it went on, it just became more and more sure of itself, and the fact that they allowed the characters to age into adulthood definitely made it more relatable for a lot of us, I'm sure. Aang's story benefitted from the fact that it was pretty fully realized from the moment Mike and Bryan sat down to storyboard everything; I know the story is that they originally wrote the Book One "Blue Spirit" episode to act as a potential cliffhanger ending incase Nick didn't re-up them, but they clearly had a three season arc in mind from the get-go. It makes Korra all the more impressive as an achievement that they put it together so well without fully knowing how long they'd get for it for awhile. I do remember kind of laughing at it when, in the awful TLA movie, they said that Sozin's Comet would return in 3 years, instead of few months that the series did. The rest of the movie sucked, but that part felt like more of what the guys might have originally wanted to do in the series; it definitely feels like the characters "age up" as it goes along, and by more than the 9 months or so the series is supposed to encapsulate. Probably why the first order of business in the comic book series was to do a one year time skip immediately.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 20, 2014 15:21:34 GMT -5
I really have to say, I really like that scene at the end. I can't be the only one who felt like they were building towards this since the start of Season 3. I just thought they would never do anything but subtext because it's supposed to be a children's cartoon. Maybe it's because it's online-only or maybe TV executives are getting less stuck up about this sort of thing. But I think Korra, the lead character in a popular kids' show, being bisexual is a tremendous step forward.
I hope this encourages TV execs to get the stick out of their ass and let more LGBT characters appear in their shows. And not in the lazy, "Oh Dumbledore was gay" after-the-fact confession way when there's no supporting evidence or even subtext beyond the author's say so.
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Post by The Legend of Groose on Dec 20, 2014 17:37:17 GMT -5
Let's get one thing straight about Korra... She's not.
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Post by dav on Dec 20, 2014 18:10:33 GMT -5
Let's get one thing straight about Korra... She's not.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 20, 2014 20:59:01 GMT -5
So how would rank the Seasons
Guess I go
1.3 2.4 3.1 4.2
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Post by HMARK Center on Dec 20, 2014 21:34:56 GMT -5
I've read a few opinions from those who have any type of issues with the finale; to be fair, a couple of opinions were pretty legitimate, even if I thought they weren't particularly big deals since I found myself enjoying the episodes so much despite them.
Most of the nitpicks come down the fact that they simply had an episode limit each season: 12 episodes per book instead of the original series' 20. For example, just about everybody agreed that Mako's almost-life-costing sacrifice was a fantastic moment, as was the dialog between him and Bolin right before it happened. That said, if each season had more time, that moment could've felt more like a real character culmination for Mako; the guy had a lot of very interesting characterizations baked into him (he's protective of others he cares about, avoids hurting others' feelings but winds up making his life tougher in the process, etc.), and a scene of his brother trying to stop him from selflessly putting his life on the line would've carried even more weight. Or even Asami, for that matter: they did a heck of a job utilizing her in the last two books, but there was still a lot more about her we probably could've stood to learn about, and it could've made the final scene even more impactful (beyond the obviously reasons why it was already impactful).
Again, though, those are mostly nitpicks; there wasn't a lot the guys could do once it was clear they wouldn't get more than 12 episodes per season, and they clearly wanted the focus of the series to be on Korra's personal growth and development. The original series was not just Aang's story; if you think about it, TLA is really the story of "The Avatar and the Firelord", since it's really Aang AND Zuko's story; the additional episodes each season helped make that possible.
The only really legitimate gripes I've heard about the final scene is that some folks simply wanted Korra to end the series without a love interest. Mike and Bryan are self-confessed suckers for endings like that, but there were some who simply wanted the story to be Korra's journey to adulthood, with the key being the friendships she learns she not only enjoys, but relies on, and learns to fully trust in. Basically, the gripe is "if you give her a love interest, it prioritizes one friendship over the rest", and I can kind of understand that. Obviously there are simply people who ship different relationships, and that's their business, I suppose, but shippers are pretty nuts, anyway.
I just love that despite some of those gripes, most people still feel it came off incredibly strongly; the gripes just feel like potential fodder for additional material down the road, like comics or what have you.
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Post by Dub H on Dec 20, 2014 21:43:09 GMT -5
Besides being incredibly cute moment ,it did feel great that they managed to do that final scene. It could be a pretty important step for the future.
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Post by andrew8798 on Dec 21, 2014 0:51:58 GMT -5
Never did get the hate it got from some people
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