kidglov3s
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Post by kidglov3s on Sept 27, 2014 16:43:11 GMT -5
Where were the shows where a child sitcom star in cartoon form played an angel who was also a human or...? Watching that at the crack of dawn on old Cartoon Network was a nightmarish experience. What kind of name is Labeau? What a depressing f***ing show.
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Post by Lupin the Third on Sept 27, 2014 16:55:25 GMT -5
They could've at least did the series finale to Yu-Gi-Oh. Would've at least been ironic.
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Post by Raskovnik on Sept 27, 2014 17:43:21 GMT -5
Eh, it's whatever. Most everyone has Internet now so they can watch whatever they want when they want, including all of these cartoons if they really care so much. I just hate nostalgia and phony outrage.
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Post by Savage Gambino on Sept 27, 2014 19:12:35 GMT -5
I'm watching it right now, actually. Seeing those ads for "One Magnificent Morning" actually made me sick to my stomach. Looks like the soccer moms, FCC, and cable providers won... As someone who rarely watches Saturday morning cartoons, this is literally my first time hearing about this, and the line-up is horrendous. The Dog Whisperer? Reluctantly Healthy? It's like they're actively trying to kill viewership. I mean, I'll agree the FCC and soccer moms won, but I think, in a few months time, we'll all agree the biggest losers here were the CW shareholders.
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Post by Long A, Short A on Sept 27, 2014 20:47:37 GMT -5
It was weird seeing the plain Vortex graphics without the ads for the other shows. This reminds me of when my local ABC station decided to play local news for six hours on Saturday mornings instead cartoons.
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Post by andrew8798 on Sept 27, 2014 20:50:45 GMT -5
Such a shame used to record Spider-man and Yu-Gi-Oh
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Post by wisdomwizard on Sept 27, 2014 22:06:09 GMT -5
What is all this nonsense about "soccer moms" and where is it coming from? What proof is there? There hasn't been any major controversy over Saturday Morning Cartoons. As for the FCC, the E/I mandate in place was actually the only reason Saturday Morning blocks lasted as long as they did.
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 27, 2014 22:09:43 GMT -5
What is all this nonsense about "soccer moms" and where is it coming from? What proof is there? There hasn't been any major controversy over Saturday Morning Cartoons. As for the FCC, the E/I mandate in place was actually the only reason Saturday Morning blocks lasted as long as they did. In all honesty, that is part of it-a least for a certain age group, such as myself. Saturday Morning went out with not so much as a whimper, rather than in a triumph. But it was to be expected in the context of our times, as depressing as that is.
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Post by andrew8798 on Sept 27, 2014 22:16:16 GMT -5
think about it it's a end of a era
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Post by Malcolm on Sept 27, 2014 22:39:52 GMT -5
What is all this nonsense about "soccer moms" and where is it coming from? What proof is there? There hasn't been any major controversy over Saturday Morning Cartoons. As for the FCC, the E/I mandate in place was actually the only reason Saturday Morning blocks lasted as long as they did. I'm not sure how to refute this so I'm just gonna link this(I'm aware it's not Saturday morning cartoons, but I do feel it is relevant): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekday_cartoon#DeclineAnd it's not just the E/I mandate, there's also this: I'm assuming they passed this because parents are too lazy to say "no you can't have this toy/happy meal" so they blamed the ads instead of themselves which seems totally a "soccer mom" thing to do, and that is why I blame "soccer moms". That and their complaints about violent shows which leads to the unnecessary editing and censoring which doesn't give creators much leeway on Network TV, thus making them move the cable channels instead.
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Post by Sparvid on Sept 27, 2014 22:53:33 GMT -5
It's gonna be a reality/documentary lifestyle block aimed at teens and families, so I really don't understand why people are that upset about the programming. I mean understand some people can't get over things from their youth going away but it's not like the Saturday Morning cartoon block was exactly lively anymore to begin with, nor is it's the only option for kids who want to watch cartoons. But no, let's get mad that people maybe learn something from watching TV instead of seeing a decade old cartoon. Teenagers: well-known for getting up early on weekend mornings to watch TV.
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Post by Sponsored by Groose Wipes on Sept 28, 2014 1:46:24 GMT -5
"One Magnificent Morning" As long as I live and breathe, there's only one One ____________ Morning on Saturdays. I got the sudden urge to watch Pepper Ann and Recess.
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Post by ayumidah on Sept 28, 2014 2:21:08 GMT -5
One comfort is that DBZ Kai will be continuing on Toonami soon at least.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 28, 2014 9:03:20 GMT -5
It's gonna be a reality/documentary lifestyle block aimed at teens and families, so I really don't understand why people are that upset about the programming. I mean understand some people can't get over things from their youth going away but it's not like the Saturday Morning cartoon block was exactly lively anymore to begin with, nor is it's the only option for kids who want to watch cartoons. But no, let's get mad that people maybe learn something from watching TV instead of seeing a decade old cartoon. Teenagers: well-known for getting up early on weekend mornings to watch TV. To be fair, when NBC was the first to bow out of Saturday morning programming, Teen NBC was alright, as was Discovery Kids. Sadly, the bean counters took over after Zucker's frat boy approach and a revolving door of execs happened, which had them dumping their own programming for a cheap partnership with the ion Network to create "qubo", a kids station run by morons. But, yeah, it's still depressing that what we grew up with is finally dead.
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Post by Sephiroth on Sept 28, 2014 15:56:49 GMT -5
It's gonna be a reality/documentary lifestyle block aimed at teens and families, so I really don't understand why people are that upset about the programming. I mean understand some people can't get over things from their youth going away but it's not like the Saturday Morning cartoon block was exactly lively anymore to begin with, nor is it's the only option for kids who want to watch cartoons. But no, let's get mad that people maybe learn something from watching TV instead of seeing a decade old cartoon. For me, the bigger deal was the demise of the Saturday morning kid-oriented animation block. This is a TV tradition that literally lasted two generations, to know that it is officially a thing of the past feels kind of surreal in a way. I know that advancing technology and media made it inevitable, but as a concept it feels almost strange to grasp as reality. Probably kind of like how some felt about the slow demise if the soap opera genre.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Sept 28, 2014 16:12:42 GMT -5
As long as I live and breathe, there's only one One ____________ Morning on Saturdays. I got the sudden urge to watch Pepper Ann and Recess. I watched the entire Recess series in a row earlier this year. Towards the middle of season 4 it gets weak...but before that it is as great as I remember
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Sept 28, 2014 16:38:44 GMT -5
I have the final two episodes of Spectacular Spider-Man on my DVR, I've had the series set to record ever since Vortexx started airing them. They probably would've been better off skipping the format and just airing the series finale.
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 28, 2014 17:15:02 GMT -5
What is all this nonsense about "soccer moms" and where is it coming from? What proof is there? There hasn't been any major controversy over Saturday Morning Cartoons. As for the FCC, the E/I mandate in place was actually the only reason Saturday Morning blocks lasted as long as they did. I'm not sure how to refute this so I'm just gonna link this(I'm aware it's not Saturday morning cartoons, but I do feel it is relevant): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekday_cartoon#DeclineAnd it's not just the E/I mandate, there's also this: I'm assuming they passed this because parents are too lazy to say "no you can't have this toy/happy meal" so they blamed the ads instead of themselves which seems totally a "soccer mom" thing to do, and that is why I blame "soccer moms". That and their complaints about violent shows which leads to the unnecessary editing and censoring which doesn't give creators much leeway on Network TV, thus making them move the cable channels instead. I'd wager it has far more to do with increasing knowledge that advertising affects children's eating habits more than most other things and is directly contributing to the ever-increasing childhood obesity rates, continuing to put stress on an already overtaxed medical system and compiling the increasing socioeconomic woes that come from having a generation of young people that, for the first time in history, are expected to live shorter lives than their parents, combined with the advances in technology that render the entire concept of a Saturday morning cartoon an archaic moot point. But sure, we can blame soccer moms.
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Post by Malcolm on Sept 28, 2014 17:32:39 GMT -5
I'm not sure how to refute this so I'm just gonna link this(I'm aware it's not Saturday morning cartoons, but I do feel it is relevant): en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weekday_cartoon#DeclineAnd it's not just the E/I mandate, there's also this: I'm assuming they passed this because parents are too lazy to say "no you can't have this toy/happy meal" so they blamed the ads instead of themselves which seems totally a "soccer mom" thing to do, and that is why I blame "soccer moms". That and their complaints about violent shows which leads to the unnecessary editing and censoring which doesn't give creators much leeway on Network TV, thus making them move the cable channels instead. I'd wager it has far more to do with increasing knowledge that advertising affects children's eating habits more than most other things and is directly contributing to the ever-increasing childhood obesity rates, continuing to put stress on an already overtaxed medical system and compiling the increasing socioeconomic woes that come from having a generation of young people that, for the first time in history, are expected to live shorter lives than their parents, combined with the advances in technology that render the entire concept of a Saturday morning cartoon an archaic moot point. But sure, we can blame soccer moms. Is it really that hard for parents to say the word "no", though?
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Post by Red Impact on Sept 28, 2014 17:47:00 GMT -5
I'd wager it has far more to do with increasing knowledge that advertising affects children's eating habits more than most other things and is directly contributing to the ever-increasing childhood obesity rates, continuing to put stress on an already overtaxed medical system and compiling the increasing socioeconomic woes that come from having a generation of young people that, for the first time in history, are expected to live shorter lives than their parents, combined with the advances in technology that render the entire concept of a Saturday morning cartoon an archaic moot point. But sure, we can blame soccer moms. Is it really that hard for parents to say the word "no", though? If it ended with saying the no word, then I'd be right there with you. But it doesn't end there. Parents don't stick around their kids 24/7. Kids go places, to schools, to camps, to churches, to friends' houses. They eat elsewhere, and studies show that kids who are exposed to that advertisement simply eat more food, and the decisions of food that they make when they have the choice is influenced by advertising. And beyond that, it also has a way of affecting their brain. More kids could recognize Ronald McDonald than anyone else, including presidents and Jesus. Why do we ban cigarette advertisements for kids? It's it because those weak-willed parents simply couldn't say no? No, it's because in spite of everything, if something is presented as good to kids they'll find a way to do it. Advertising is designed to get you to do something, to affect you on a mental level to purchase or consume whatever it is that the advertisers want you to consume. Even adults, who have experience and fully developed brains, can be influenced by advertising to go along with absolutely stupid ideas simply because they've been influenced on a subconscious level. So how much more of an effect do you think it has on someone who's brain isn't developed and doesn't have the worldly experience to even begin to tell them that something is a bad idea? Blaming it on lazy parenting seriously misses the point of the regulations. It's not to help parents say no, it's to try to stem the tide of something that is costing billions of dollars and leading to shorter lives of worse quality, because at some point, parents won't be around and if kids are seeing the same advertisements bombarding them at every turn, they're going eat like crap. Just ask the sophomore class of any college, a significant number of whom gained quite a bit of weight their freshmen years when their parents were no longer around to police their eating habits.
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