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Post by Cry Me a Wiggle on Sept 29, 2014 23:37:32 GMT -5
I can't suspend my disbelief. Where did a greasy scumbag like Ambrose find the time and knowledge to rig a mechanism in the briefcase to spray green slime? Did he spend all last night in his kitchen creating the green slime, or is it something his body naturally produces?
I think Vince McMahon heard people comparing Ambrose to the Joker and naturally assumed they meant Caesar Romero rather than Heath Ledger.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 30, 2014 0:24:39 GMT -5
Was Bryan a "practical joker" during his run at the top this past year? I don't think so. I don't know. He was too busy running in terror with his wife from Kane to bust out his best material. Yeah the crowd really turned on Dean for that one Irrelevant. It was still out of character. Not everything needs to be serious 24/7. You're taking it WAY too hard to heart. Dean's character is a psychopath. Not a prankster who laughs at sight gags. Rollins legit tried to murder him. That's the story and grudge. If someone tried to crush my skull, especially a guy I considered a brother once, I wouldn't rig say a pie-launcher to hit him in the face for the lulz amidst my revenge. I'd just kill him.
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Post by Bang Bang Bart on Sept 30, 2014 0:27:43 GMT -5
Maybe when this "era" ends, we'll have a no-nonsense hero who just wants to f*** people up.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 30, 2014 0:34:36 GMT -5
Maybe when this "era" ends, we'll have a no-nonsense hero who just wants to f*** people up. To be honest, I think it's just the paint by numbers creative process. This is how they like to write. They want to write stilted terrible comedy dialogue, and create sight gag comedy, and they see the actual performer himself as interchangeable to that; i.e. they plug guys into their preferred style, as opposed to creating unique dialogue , situations and characterizations for each talent. Characters tend to come across as hive-mind after awhile.
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Post by barelybeastmode on Sept 30, 2014 0:41:12 GMT -5
As utterly out of character it was for Dean to slime Seth, I actually rather enjoyed it purely for Seth's reaction to it. Watching the golden boy embarrassed and humiliated, while not nearly as fun and cathartic as watching him getting the ish kicked out of him, was entertaining in it's own right.
I find it doubtful that Dean will continue to resort to pranks like a certain overgrown manchild we all know. So I choose to view this as a one-off (like Roman and the vomit gag), especially since we returned to our regularly scheduled ass kicking Ambrose during the main event.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Sept 30, 2014 1:29:33 GMT -5
Given Ambrose is a lunatic i was expecting the briefcase to explode when Seth touchef or have something like a poisonous snake inside.
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Post by Doctor Of Style on Sept 30, 2014 1:30:45 GMT -5
It breaks my disbelief. Where did a greasy scumbag like Ambrose find the time and knowledge to rig a mechanism in the briefcase to spray green slime? Did he spend all last night in his kitchen creating the green slime, or is it something his body naturally produces? I think Vince McMahon heard people comparing Ambrose to the Joker and naturally assumed they meant Caesar Romero rather than Heath Ledger. The guy who lives in the cardboard box next to Dean's is a Vietnam vet with an extensive knowledge of booby traps. For a couple bottles of MD 20/20, the booby trap master helped out the titty master.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Sept 30, 2014 1:43:20 GMT -5
Maybe when this "era" ends, we'll have a no-nonsense hero who just wants to f*** people up. To be honest, I think it's just the paint by numbers creative process. This is how they like to write. They want to write stilted terrible comedy dialogue, and create sight gag comedy, and they see the actual performer himself as interchangeable to that; i.e. they plug guys into their preferred style, as opposed to creating unique dialogue , situations and characterizations for each talent. Characters tend to come across as hive-mind after awhile. If the performers and characters actually fit, there wouldn't be much of an issue. The way I see it, there's nothing inherently wrong with a douchebag comedy face. Some people actually like that kind of thing. Less enlightened people such as myself actually find "lowest common denominator" type of comedy to be quite amusing. WWE COULD have their precious jokester face character. But 1.) They just need the right performer and right character to make it work rather than trying to square peg the material onto the wrestlers as if it were a rite of passage of sorts towards being a "top guy". And 2.) They have to realize that the best person to fill this role might not necessarily be a (potential) main eventer, but someone in the upper mid card or even someone at the bottom of the barrel.
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Post by Starshine on Sept 30, 2014 2:49:24 GMT -5
What I hate more than these pranks when the commentators chirp about how the babyface is just having fun when they do, as if they're an adorable child. It makes it very hard to get invested into fierce feuds such as Ambrose/Rollins when one of the two resorts to practical jokes to get under the skin of their opponent. At this point, the two should be tearing one another apart while (supposedly) leading into a brutal match such as the Hell in a Cell.
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Post by Lila on Sept 30, 2014 3:03:53 GMT -5
Not everything needs to be serious 24/7. You're taking it WAY too hard to heart. Dean's character is a psychopath. Not a prankster who laughs at sight gags. Rollins legit tried to murder him. That's the story and grudge. If someone tried to crush my skull, especially a guy I considered a brother once, I wouldn't rig say a pie-launcher to hit him in the face for the lulz amidst my revenge. I'd just kill him. Exactly, which means he's not going to be serious all the time. He's gonna be all over the place.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 3:10:53 GMT -5
I thought Ambrose's smile in the crowd after it happened looked weird. Sort of like how dolphins always look like they're smiling, even though they're not really. Felt unnatural for him, just like it feels unnatural that he's sort of paling around with John Cena and patiently saying "stay out of the way John, I don't want to have to fight with you". I mean he's the Illuminated Fridge or whatever, right? Shouldn't he just start wrecking whoever's in his way to get what he wants?
At least the dildo gag was pretty funny.
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Post by benstudd on Sept 30, 2014 3:32:09 GMT -5
Oh he got green glue on his face! That was Vince-level of humour there my friends. In league with the Teen Choices Awards. When the thing happened with the case I remembered how much I hated the DX reunion back in 2006 and how unfunnyy that was.
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN (Nana is BUNS) on Sept 30, 2014 3:33:58 GMT -5
Reigns was like that literally only the one time, and we're STILL holding it against him? I know he's a popular target, but I think it's a bit harsh to still treat it like it became his permanent character trait. Because Roman Reigns is the greatest evil in the history of wrestling. Or do you not read this board? (not a sentiment I agree with BTW)
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Post by ASYLUMHAUSEN (Nana is BUNS) on Sept 30, 2014 3:35:12 GMT -5
Maybe when this "era" ends, we'll have a no-nonsense hero who just wants to f*** people up.
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Post by Kitty Shamrocks on Sept 30, 2014 4:45:25 GMT -5
He was basically "clown shoes" era CM Punk.
So, ew.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Sept 30, 2014 5:43:18 GMT -5
I'm just glad Rollins chose to open up the briefcase, something no-one ever does, even when they're cashing in the damn thing, otherwise we'd have missed the lawls.
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Post by Crimson on Sept 30, 2014 6:01:58 GMT -5
Because DX were practical jokers and they damn near turned the Monday Night Wars around when they invaded Nitro on a tank.
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Post by SEAN CARLESS on Sept 30, 2014 6:46:53 GMT -5
Dean's character is a psychopath. Not a prankster who laughs at sight gags. Rollins legit tried to murder him. That's the story and grudge. If someone tried to crush my skull, especially a guy I considered a brother once, I wouldn't rig say a pie-launcher to hit him in the face for the lulz amidst my revenge. I'd just kill him. Exactly, which means he's not going to be serious all the time. He's gonna be all over the place. His character has been established as being violently unhinged. Really right from the beginning. That whole case thing was completely out of left field for his character and its recent presentation. His entire recent arc has been about wanting to savagely murder Rollins for his countless sins and betrayals. If he's loading anything into a briefcase, it's poison, not slime. To me, again, this thing, and this thread, comes down to the eternal battle between two groups of devoted wrestling fans. One side prefers the non-thinking, non-question-asking approach, and is all like "Ah, it doesn't matter, it's just wrestling!" While the other, and I fall into this category, are more critical over logic and continuity (since it IS a story) and crave consistency in the storytelling. Its not ever going to be a Nolan movie out there in written presentation, but it'd be nice if they wrote their characters based on the established personas given and shown without deviating from that all of a sudden because some poindexter in creative, trying to win points with Vince, thinks up interchangeable sight gags to make him laugh and spit his steak sandwich all over the board table.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Sept 30, 2014 6:50:40 GMT -5
because the last real superstar they ever made was funny as hell even when he was spouting nonsense like "popcorn fart" and saying Michael Cole was a hermaphrodite. so Vince thinks the key to replicating that success is everyone being a jokester whether they're suited to it or not.
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Post by Gremlin on Sept 30, 2014 7:15:04 GMT -5
Bang 3:16 says hello.
I liked Ambrose's reaction. He couldn't believe it actually worked.
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