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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 22:18:08 GMT -5
I DEMAND AN APOLOGY FROM HBK FOR BLOWING HIS NOSE ON THE CANADIAN FLAG AND SCREWING CANADAS NATIONAL TREASURE BRET HART IMMEDIATELY!!!!!!! He should have taken Bret on a few dates first! Where is the world of romance, WWE? WHERE DID YOU FLUSH IT!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2014 22:18:28 GMT -5
I also demand an apology for hearing all those awful beaver jokes towards Trish Stratus. We get it she's Canadian and has a vagina!
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Sept 30, 2014 22:19:40 GMT -5
That, I can agree- but at least "face doing the EXACT thing he was pissed at the heel for doing" can also be read as "face punishes the heel by giving him a taste of his own medicine"- which is a natural form of punishment and at least fair enough. [/quote] The "taste of his own medicine" thing doesn't work in this situation. It *may* work when the only "victim" is the heel himself. When Ziggler won with a handful of tights after losing to the Miz who stole the win a night earlier the same way. That's fine. But the "victim" of disrespecting an entire country are the innocent people who live in said country. Big Show got "revenge" for Rusev/Lana's disrespect of all Americans...by disrespecting all Russians. It'd be like if James Gordon shot Harley Quinn in the spine because of what the Joker did to Babs. Even Rocky figured this out by the end of the fourth movie...and he had major brain damage. Maybe Vince hasn't made it to the end of that movie, yet...
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 30, 2014 22:37:59 GMT -5
There are very hard limits on what can be discussed, but the irony of Rusev being looked at as a relic is that this is the most topical they've been in years with their target. That's about as much as can be said. Pretty much. Have to wonder how much this has to do with the Network looking at markets in the Eastern European region. And yes, let's do our best to keep the political aspect of this out of it. The business aspect is fine, just keep it apolitical. I will say this - if...IF...Vince manages to play all the cards right in the continuation of the Rusev story - and let's face it, it's still juuuuuussst at that teeter-totter edge of going really good or going REALLY bad - it could very well turn out to be something epic. However, from a business standpoint, they have to realize now they're going to have to find a way to balance villifying an entity and its allies via representative figure while at the same time trying to sell your wares to that same entity and/or its allies. Will that hinder things in the creative department? How do they please both sides and still turn this into a diamond? It's going to be difficult, but if they can find a way to be smart with things, they might do it.
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 30, 2014 22:47:40 GMT -5
Even Rocky figured this out by the end of the fourth movie...and he had major brain damage. Maybe Vince hasn't made it to the end of that movie, yet... Vince never makes it passed the "Heart's On Fire" montage. Just ends up putting that chapter on repeat while demanding someone find him some birds to chase and wood to split. He then pumps iron for 58 straight hours while watching the montage over and over and over and over, until he passes out and falls asleep. Forty-six minutes later, he wakes up for the day, fully rested, and discovers the disc repeat caused the player to burn out. He then orders another player and copy of Rocky IV and at the end of the next long day, goes to watch it again. And then he gets to the "Heart's On Fire" montage....
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Post by Joe Neglia on Sept 30, 2014 22:50:28 GMT -5
And frankly, if Vince DOES play his cards right, this could finally be the Sgt. Slaughter angle he wanted so desperately that fell apart so badly in so many ways.
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Post by Hit Girl on Sept 30, 2014 22:58:14 GMT -5
Why don't WWE apologise to America for Lana's insults every week?
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Sept 30, 2014 23:23:15 GMT -5
Why don't WWE apologise to America for Lana's insults every week? They already fired Hassan and Finley for doing it. What more can be Dunn? Hmm....
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Oct 1, 2014 0:33:05 GMT -5
This apology sort of smacks of a work to me.
Jericho got suspended for kicking the Brazilian flag on a show nobody f***ing saw.
Seems to me this just an excuse for Lana to say Americans are weak and Russians wouldn't apologize.
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Post by unc40 on Oct 1, 2014 1:00:34 GMT -5
My biggest problem is that the WWE has always come across as hypocrites on this issue. It's okay for the WWE to have a wrestler blow their nose in your country's flag and disrespect it but if you even look at the U.S. flag wrong you are more evil than Hitler.
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Post by Brother Nero....Wolfe on Oct 1, 2014 10:52:31 GMT -5
This apology sort of smacks of a work to me. Jericho got suspended for kicking the Brazilian flag on a show nobody f***ing saw. Seems to me this just an excuse for Lana to say Americans are weak and Russians wouldn't apologize. To be fair, Jericho's situation was different. He could have been arrested for that - he did it in Brazil, in front of Brazilian authorities, and doing that to the country's flag is illegal. They had some preeeeeetty good reasons for suspending him, if only to make the situation die down. That one legitimately got them some bad publicity.
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Post by mrbananagrabber on Oct 1, 2014 11:01:58 GMT -5
If only the show was pre-determined and scripted in advance so they could avoid anything like this that would obviously cause offence.
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Post by rapidfire187 on Oct 1, 2014 17:40:40 GMT -5
WWE: The GLOBAL leader in sports and entertainment! Now watch our huge babyface trash another country's flag. Cheap HEEL Heat 101. Trash a flag. Fair point- but Should Jack Swagger resort to being the evil "Real American" for the shows WWE is in Europe or Canada, then? It is connected. No matter how GLOBAL WWE is, it is a company based in America, and there has to be a little bit of leeway there. Yes, he should be a heel there.
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Post by came2piecesinmyhands on Oct 1, 2014 17:58:02 GMT -5
Why apologise?? I would be proud to have Lana and Rusev representing my country - he's been booked like a bawse. I'm not Russian but they're my faves right now.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 1, 2014 17:59:56 GMT -5
Big Show should have given it a hearty headbutt. Nobody would have had a beef with that. Vince probably thinks that flag is still the current flag
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Post by nate5054 on Oct 1, 2014 18:05:13 GMT -5
If they really didn't predict that they would piss off a bunch of Russians by doing this, they are the biggest morons on the planet.
Since I don't think they are the biggest morons on the planet, they are now merely just the weeniest pusses on the planet.
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Post by r. on Oct 1, 2014 18:29:50 GMT -5
Get over it Russia, It's wrestling and bearing in mind the rules, All I'll say is you have far bigger things to worry about.
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Post by percymania on Oct 1, 2014 20:30:31 GMT -5
They shouldn't apologize for the segment being offensive, they should apologize for the segment being dumb and a complete waste of time.
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