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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 16, 2014 11:30:57 GMT -5
I'd be more inclined to blame the writers and/or Vince more than Cena himself. They're the ones who put Wyatt in with Cena as the sacrificial lamb to prove that he was "focused" for the rematch with Lesnar, and they know they done goofed since they've taken him and the Family off of TV to try and rebuild their aura.
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Oct 16, 2014 11:35:11 GMT -5
Why get mad at the wrestlers? Not like Cena booked this shit. Get mad at Vince and the clowns in creative.
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Post by Dean-o on Oct 16, 2014 11:36:25 GMT -5
The wrestlers are simply doing what they are being told to do. Unless there was some backstage BS involved, I never blame the wrestler in question. Just comes across as being a mark.
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Post by DjZonk on Oct 16, 2014 11:39:40 GMT -5
Bray was almost booked to be the weak link of the group. Plus his promos can be rambling nonsense that never seem to end, and not in the good way.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 16, 2014 11:42:28 GMT -5
Yeah. I don't blame Cena, I blame the notion that WWE didn't plan on Wyatt being that popular that fast. They probably figured he'd be booed like crazy and may/may not even be that popular so the play was always for Cena to beat him pretty handily.
Its basically the idea that WWE no longer knows how to improvise or competently take advantage of organic momentum that they don't strategicly create. (like w Cesaro).
The moment something doesn't fit with their narrative they just keep plowing through with something that's not really working, creatively trying to shove a square peg in a round hole. Or they panic and push Cena harder.
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Post by Rave on Oct 16, 2014 11:51:33 GMT -5
It's like Sheamus after 18 Secondsgate. People can't take their frustrations out on the idiots writing and/or f***ing around with the narrative, so they do the next best thing and blame the talent, even if they're just following orders.
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 16, 2014 11:53:05 GMT -5
I blame the program with Cena for killing all the momentum Bray and co. had at the time. I blame WWE in general for jobbing them out and pushing them down the latter afterward. Why on earth they did not make more out of Rowan and Harper chasing the tag titles is beyond me. And once again, I say that after WM Bray should have been Bryan's first title feud instead of Kane.
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Post by A damn road sign on Oct 16, 2014 11:54:18 GMT -5
I blame Cena for 9/11, the 2008 credit crunch, and Freddos now being 25p.
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Post by Martin: #TeamBella Treasurer on Oct 16, 2014 12:00:21 GMT -5
I blame Cena for 9/11, the 2008 credit crunch, and Freddos now being 25p.You seen this s**t, mate?
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Post by EoE: Well There's Your Problem on Oct 16, 2014 12:02:55 GMT -5
I blame Cena for 9/11, the 2008 credit crunch, and Freddos now being 25p.You seen this s**t, mate? What kind of bullshit is that? The skyrocketing price of petty chocolate is what we should be getting angry about.
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Post by ededdneddy on Oct 16, 2014 12:20:10 GMT -5
I blame creative, Vince, Cena, the Usos, and Show/Henry for the Wyatts Family Downfall.
Wyatts should have been tag team champions on more than a few occasions. Usos should've dropped the titles to them but no....then we had to live with them getting jobbed to Show/Henry for weeks on end and for what reason? Don't get me started on the whole Cena bullshit. Then we have creative who I'm sure had something good but once again the Earl of Prick that is Vince switches things up at the flick of a finger and well we get shit.
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Post by A damn road sign on Oct 16, 2014 12:20:18 GMT -5
I blame Cena for 9/11, the 2008 credit crunch, and Freddos now being 25p.You seen this s**t, mate? Is nothing sacred any more?!
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Post by Mid-Carder on Oct 16, 2014 12:20:39 GMT -5
I don't. Cena sold Bray as a threat, physically and mentally and working with Cena was a huge push for him. Cena's victory at Mania never bothered me that much, why wouldn't the top face and superhero overcome the evil cult leader who's been bullying him?
Creative and his boring feud with Jericho take the blame for me.
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Post by spagett on Oct 16, 2014 12:31:30 GMT -5
You seen this s**t, mate? Is nothing sacred any more?! I can't get over this. This is an absolute disgrace
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 16, 2014 12:34:24 GMT -5
I don't blame Cena. More the fact that anything outside of feuding with Cena is a major step down. Even if Bray won the feud, we'd be complaining about his lost momentum once he moved on to feuding with an upper midcarder.
I'm okay with Harper and Rowan not getting the tag titles because I feel that if they did get the belts and if they did keep momentum, then they would've been another team that's "too big" for the tag division that either treats the other tag teams like jobbers or can't be bothered to work with tag teams because they're constantly getting swallowed up into main event angles.
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Post by sportatorium on Oct 16, 2014 14:21:55 GMT -5
While Cena doesn't write/book the shows, he does have enough juice to talk to them when they are damaging another wrestler. He knows well enough when the crowd is giving major babyface reactions to a cold cult leader that they shouldn't be writing Bray's "comeuppance".
So while Cena shouldn't shoulder the blame, he is still has some responsibility for Bray's depush/need for repackaging. The same way he has responsibility for Wade Barrett, Dolph Ziggler & Damien Sandow.
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Post by Hawk Hart on Oct 16, 2014 14:30:36 GMT -5
It's like Sheamus after 18 Secondsgate. People can't take their frustrations out on the idiots writing and/or f***ing around with the narrative, so they do the next best thing and blame the talent, even if they're just following orders. "Let me tell you about another group of hate mongers that were 'just following orders,' they were called Nazis!'
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Post by Mid-Carder on Oct 16, 2014 14:32:18 GMT -5
While Cena doesn't write/book the shows, he does have enough juice to talk to them when they are damaging another wrestler. That's not his job. It's up to Creative to book these guys properly
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Post by This Player Hating Mothman on Oct 16, 2014 15:01:02 GMT -5
The fact Cena doesn't put his foot down and stop them from just feeding an entire generation of wrestlers to him, and writes his own promos wherein he no-sells Wyatt's mindgames by making Margaritaville jokes at him, means there's got to be some blame on him. He clearly didn't really learn his lesson after the Nexus Summerslam match.
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Post by sportatorium on Oct 16, 2014 15:03:27 GMT -5
While Cena doesn't write/book the shows, he does have enough juice to talk to them when they are damaging another wrestler. That's not his job. It's up to Creative to book these guys properly So you think if creative came forward with an idea to book him as a cowardly heel who can only win by cheating he would just go along with it?
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