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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Oct 21, 2014 18:48:20 GMT -5
Chris Rock should have sined that dude filming's pitty on the runny kine.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 21, 2014 19:20:53 GMT -5
Chris Rock should have sined that dude filming's pitty on the runny kine. ....what
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Post by Michael Coello on Oct 21, 2014 19:22:48 GMT -5
YES! It needs to be spelled out! It's why all those commercials for cars need notices that the car that jumped through a ring of fire, and dives under flaming sharks was not real, the driver is a trainer one, and the car is not actually able to go underwater and DO NOT ATTEMPT! Cause, as mentioned and proved, someone is going to attempt this unless expressly told this is against the rules. Is it? I mean, I've been to a few concerts and plays and performances, and people have had phones out, recording, and it was not an issue. And I did have to ask a few times what the big issue was. I remember Nikki Six from Motley Crue talking about this the other day, and how this is a sign of the change of concerts, and people using that phone to do this new experience, and how he was initially upset that it seemed like they weren't paying attention, but conclusion this was the new way it has turned into. Yeah, okay, and unless it's expressly stated, he could have responded back with this. I'm not even trying to be an ass, I honestly had no idea this was such a taboo at these. Yeah, but Chris Rock did tell people and they still didn't listen. So they could have had flashing neon lights and made people sign a death-pact stating they won't record it and they still would have tried. Like people with user agreements on iTunes. But yeah - it is a pretty big taboo in most artistic circles, but especially live theater/performance. I think with musical concerts the crowd is usually too big and rawkus to even try to get to the person recording with their phone, but when its a fairly small, intimate setting like a small theater its much more distracting. I've been to at least 2-3 plays a year for the better part of a decade and I've NEVER seen anyone recording with their phones. Big, music festivals - of course yes. I mean, I know you're not trying to be contrarian for the sake of being contrarian, but you're basically arguing on behalf of the people in the crowd who were being A)Rude B)Ignoring commonly known theater mores C) Ignoring what is now known to be an explictly stated rule for THIS theater and D) Blantantly ignoring a fellow human being who asked not to be recorded. The people in the crowd who were recording seemed to be clearly in the wrong and its not up to the performer to educate adults about how to be an audience member. They're there to perform, not to discipline (probably unintentionally) disrespectful people. Fine. I'm just gonna end this here and just say that while I now understand the actual issue here with the phone, I'll still of the mindset the actual way Chris Rock handled this and himself left something to be desired, and I see it more as both in the wrong, albeit the person with the camera more so to blame than Chris Rock was.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Oct 21, 2014 20:09:48 GMT -5
Chris Rock should have sined that dude filming's pitty on the runny kine. Sa-da-tay!
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Oct 21, 2014 20:10:19 GMT -5
Chris Rock should have sined that dude filming's pitty on the runny kine. ....what Sepatown, tippi tai. My apoligies. Mad props to Rock for the cama cama leepa chai.
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Post by bluemeii on Oct 21, 2014 20:19:00 GMT -5
Surprisingly I know what the hell they are talking about.
Damn that movie sucked.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 21, 2014 20:19:02 GMT -5
Sepatown, tippi tai. My apoligies. Mad props to Rock for the cama cama leepa chai. I haven't seen Pootie Tang in like a decade, so I assume this is from that and I forgot.
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Post by Red Impact on Oct 21, 2014 20:40:56 GMT -5
Joke stealing is a pretty serious thing in the comedy world (just look at the Dane Cook/Louis CK feud and how bitter it got). Someone being a jackass and filming some new material so that he could get facebook likes is an issue. The audience member has no right to film, and I'm surprised this was even an issue that people in the audience had to be informed of.
I can see the comparisons to bands somewhat, but I think there are a lot of differences between filming a band and filming a comic's act, not the least of which the sound quality on a lot of fan-recorded videos being absolute crap for music, but just fine to hear a joke. You can't really replicate the experience of being at a concert, or even listening to a song on an album, by watching a shaky youtube video of the performance, and you can't say the same about a comedy show.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Oct 21, 2014 20:45:04 GMT -5
Joke stealing is a pretty serious thing in the comedy world (just look at the Dane Cook/Louis CK feud and how bitter it got). Someone being a jackass and filming some new material so that he could get facebook likes is an issue. The audience member has no right to film, and I'm surprised this was even an issue that people in the audience had to be informed of. I can see the comparisons to bands somewhat, but I think there are a lot of differences between filming a band and filming a comic's act, not the least of which the sound quality on a lot of fan-recorded videos being absolute crap for music, but just fine to hear a joke. You can't really replicate the experience of being at a concert, or even listening to a song on an album, by watching a shaky youtube video of the performance, and you can't say the same about a comedy show. How can we forget about Joe Rogan confronting Carlos Mencia about him stealing a joke of his
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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 21, 2014 22:00:25 GMT -5
Have to admit, even at 29 years old, I can't comprehend going to a show or whatever and just pulling out my iPhone to record stuff. If I'm at a concert and something big happens, I just want to react. If I'm at a sports event and my team makes a huge play or whatever, I just want to react to it and cheer like nuts. I can't begin to comprehend people who instantly pull out their phones in these moments, it makes absolutely no sense to me, and it's frankly pretty disturbing.
I mean...ok, if something awful is happening and needs to be recorded for the truth to get out there? Fine. But a spontaneous moment of excitement and joy...you're taking the spontaneity away when you consciously take the time to remove your phone from your pocket/purse/whatever and begin filming. It's such a weird thing to me.
As for proper theater etiquette, I'd simply recommend anybody who has never been a performer refrain from commenting on what is and isn't acceptable during on-stage performances. When I'm on stage for a show, and we've put out a "no flash photography" request, I'll do my best to work through the distractions, but I'd be pretty damned put off if people just kept ignoring said requests. It's even tougher on stand-up comics, who make material that is HIGHLY personal to them, and can't properly work on it unless they have a live audience to bounce ideas off of.
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Post by legendkiller1985 on Oct 21, 2014 22:00:50 GMT -5
I used to Intern at the UCB Theater in NY (East Village not Chelsea) but when I was there, there was an explicit no Filming or Flash Photography policy in effect. The only way ANY type of video/pictures would be allowed is if the performer cleared it with the tech people and the theater manager before the show. Honestly, I'm suprised that the staff didn't check his stuff at the door. They announce the policies of the theater at the beginning of the show.
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Post by Clash, Never a Meter Maid on Oct 21, 2014 22:38:45 GMT -5
Sepatown, tippi tai. My apoligies. Mad props to Rock for the cama cama leepa chai. Dibby in my fanny.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 22:49:10 GMT -5
Have to admit, even at 29 years old, I can't comprehend going to a show or whatever and just pulling out my iPhone to record stuff. If I'm at a concert and something big happens, I just want to react. If I'm at a sports event and my team makes a huge play or whatever, I just want to react to it and cheer like nuts. I can't begin to comprehend people who instantly pull out their phones in these moments, it makes absolutely no sense to me, and it's frankly pretty disturbing. I mean...ok, if something awful is happening and needs to be recorded for the truth to get out there? Fine. But a spontaneous moment of excitement and joy...you're taking the spontaneity away when you consciously take the time to remove your phone from your pocket/purse/whatever and begin filming. It's such a weird thing to me. As for proper theater etiquette, I'd simply recommend anybody who has never been a performer refrain from commenting on what is and isn't acceptable during on-stage performances. When I'm on stage for a show, and we've put out a "no flash photography" request, I'll do my best to work through the distractions, but I'd be pretty damned put off if people just kept ignoring said requests. It's even tougher on stand-up comics, who make material that is HIGHLY personal to them, and can't properly work on it unless they have a live audience to bounce ideas off of. I was at a concert just a week ago and had the pleasant experience of a guy in front of me reaching back at ear level over my shoulder and taking a selfie and it was about as infuriating as anything. It's so aggravating the way people make live shows about themselves. It gets to the point where I don't even know how to enjoy myself at a concert sometimes because it's hard not to get caught up people-hating when someone close to you is recording a song, and then reviewing their video to make sure they got it right instead of just f***ing enjoying the thing. Argh.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 21, 2014 22:59:24 GMT -5
I've only got a couple of stage plays to my credit.
Interestingly enough, the most difficult show I've ever had to do was that second night when we had to perform in front of a mostly white crowd.
A DEAD SILENT white crowd from opening lines to the final act. Combined with the subject matter of the play, I rarely recall ever feeling less like a performer and more like a mildly-interesting specimen being viewed under a microscope. I remember that crowd well.
That said, we never had to tell anyone to not take pictures or film. In fact, I think it was illegal for us or anyone else to film the plays we were putting on.
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Post by "American Cream" Dusty Loads on Oct 22, 2014 4:36:55 GMT -5
Surprisingly I know what the hell they are talking about. Damn that movie was fantastic. Fixed
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 22, 2014 12:22:57 GMT -5
Everyone is filming everything constantly, but we still don't have a convincing UFO, ghost or Bigfoot image
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 12:37:02 GMT -5
Everyone is filming everything constantly, but we still don't have a convincing UFO, ghost or Bigfoot image It's a pity, as the next surprise act on was Bigfoot UFO. Those jerks in the audience RUINED the proof.
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Post by Ultimo Gallos on Oct 22, 2014 15:35:05 GMT -5
Joke stealing is a pretty serious thing in the comedy world (just look at the Dane Cook/Louis CK feud and how bitter it got). Someone being a jackass and filming some new material so that he could get facebook likes is an issue. The audience member has no right to film, and I'm surprised this was even an issue that people in the audience had to be informed of. I can see the comparisons to bands somewhat, but I think there are a lot of differences between filming a band and filming a comic's act, not the least of which the sound quality on a lot of fan-recorded videos being absolute crap for music, but just fine to hear a joke. You can't really replicate the experience of being at a concert, or even listening to a song on an album, by watching a shaky youtube video of the performance, and you can't say the same about a comedy show. How can we forget about Joe Rogan confronting Carlos Mencia about him stealing a joke of his Or Hicks going after Leary for stealing lots of his material.
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 22, 2014 16:05:08 GMT -5
How can we forget about Joe Rogan confronting Carlos Mencia about him stealing a joke of his Or Hicks going after Leary for stealing lots of his material. And Leary stealing the "asshole" bit from Louis CK, though CK doesn't really mind hugely, given he had already begun phasing it out of his act by that point, and Leary helped funding a project of his later on, which he took as an acknowledgement of help the "asshole" bit had been to his career.
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Post by MC Blowfish on Oct 22, 2014 16:13:47 GMT -5
The last concert I was at I noticed how annoying the phone issue is. I had people holding up their phones during the entire performance of one song or taking panoramic shots of the audience around them. Put the phone down and enjoy the show. I don't think their's anything wrong getting a few pictures, but when the phone is up the entire time, that's an issue.
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