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Post by Germansuplex on Oct 22, 2014 22:52:10 GMT -5
BNB was crazy over. Hope he keeps the momentum.
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Post by JCBaggee on Oct 22, 2014 22:52:35 GMT -5
A bust? No. The match he had with Ziggler right before his injury proves he can get a crowd hot for him.
I would definitely consider him to be extremely unfortunate, though.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Oct 22, 2014 22:55:35 GMT -5
I think he was actually finding something that works in the BNB stuff before the injury. I don't really think of him as a bust because of that, bad luck, possible injury prone yeah but not a bust.
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Post by bluemeii on Oct 22, 2014 22:56:14 GMT -5
If you were to judge him right here, right now....yes.
Guy was given push after push. Wasn't ready for the ME with Nexus and it showed. This time around things finally looked like they were clicking for him, just had some bad luck. I imagine if they are still invested in him, when he gets back he can regain momentum and continue to climb the ladder.
Again though, going by the here and now, yeah I'd call him a bust. Not ADR levels of "why the hell is this guy still in the ME", but not a rousing success story either. That said he definitely has time to change that perception, and looked to be well on his way to finally coming into his own before the injury.
Also let me just say I"m a big fan of the guy. One of my favorites but he needs to turn it around, which I honestly think he will.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 22, 2014 23:00:34 GMT -5
He seems to get hurt a lot, like big injuries, muscle tears etc. He's naturally sort of a skinny guy, though with some big shoulders. He might have too much weight on his frame. Or maybe the Demandments didn't make their way to Preston.
If not for that injury Bad News Barrett was going places for sure. He was really missing an identity before, and it showed in the ring. Now he's got this confidence to everything he does and he's playing the sort of villain he's meant to play, the whole thing was coming together.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Oct 22, 2014 23:02:14 GMT -5
If he rights the ship....no.
But if he keeps getting hurt and never reaching that potential, then I'd say yeah.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Oct 22, 2014 23:11:46 GMT -5
I'd say...yes. Though not through any fault of his own, really.
While he was still a little shaky in the ring from a technical standpoint, charisma and on the mic wise Wade was ready during the Nexus angle. The fact that they botched him so badly during that entire thing is still boggling to me. Part of it I feel was the status quo's need to be maintained with Cena and Orton. Another part of it, I feel, was he was one of many victims of the WWE machine putting all of it's weight behind the idea of Rock versus Cena.
Had they pulled the trigger, had Wade won at Summerslam like orignially planned, or had he gotten even a short run with the title or been made to be even remotely competent after he got Cena under his thumb....He could've been huge, I feel. Probably not the next Austin or Rock or Hogan, but someone that could've been a main event level heel for them. Someone that honestly would've been the perfect foil for Punk during the face portion of his main event title run and someone that could've been finally the definitive rival for Cena that keeps crossing his path.
After that mess, he took some time to recover and eventually he did with the Bad News gimmick. This time around it's been more injury that's been mucking things up for him, though admittedly some questionable booking decisions haven't helped him.
I get the feeling that if Wade's allowed to, he'll bounce back again and I sincerely hope he finally gets to climb his way to the top. Dude's polished up and pretty much gotten rid of any issues people had with him from an in ring perspective. And, he's still gold on the mic and had displaying a general aura to himself when given a halfway decent character.
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Post by the2ndevil on Oct 22, 2014 23:12:54 GMT -5
Yes and no.
The only time I have ever given a damn about him is on JBL And Cole Show, but being made of glass hasn't done him any favors.
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Post by sonofblaine on Oct 22, 2014 23:17:21 GMT -5
Yes and no. The only time I have ever given a damn about him is on JBL And Cole Show, but being made of glass hasn't done him any favors. When he comes back, he'll be a villain bent on breaking his opposite, the unbreakable John Cena. "It was the children, John... they called me Mr.Glass."
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Oct 22, 2014 23:19:37 GMT -5
Injuries have been especially cruel to him. If I remember, his injury from that battle royal a few years ago would be tough to blame on him. Now that I think of it, it would be cruel to blame him for the last injury with Swagger on SmackDown.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 22, 2014 23:25:10 GMT -5
Nope. Talented guy that can easily be pushed any time they choose him to be. His only 'failings' are on the company, not him.
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Post by Oh Cry Me a Screwball on Oct 22, 2014 23:31:53 GMT -5
Bust is WAY too strong of a word here. Barrett has done about as much as you can ask anyone to really do these days short of winning the world title. He's main evented PPVs, been a part of one of the biggest factions of the decade, coined a great catchphrase, and reinvented himself when he was started to get stale.
Time will tell if he can reach the top, but he's fulfilled a lot of his potential already. I'd say Barrett is a major success even if he were never to wrestle again.
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Post by Urethra Franklin on Oct 22, 2014 23:34:32 GMT -5
I think BNB was on the cusp of a good babyface run.
Obviously, a few of Barrett's injuries have been of the freak nature, but I wouldn't be shocked if decision-makers viewed him as injury prone at this point. That said, if he can stay healthy, I still think he's capable of some really good things.
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Post by JTG Fan on Oct 23, 2014 0:10:52 GMT -5
He seems a lot like Bradshaw in that Bradshaw entered the company in 1996 and all along WWE apparently saw main event potential in him but he went through a lot of repackaging and repurposing before finally breaking through in 2004 after 8 years in the company. Barrett is now heading towards year 5 without the major breakthrough, though he has been a lot closer to it than Bradshaw was pre-JBL.
I don't think he's a bust, some things just take time.
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Post by Toxik916 on Oct 23, 2014 0:11:09 GMT -5
Definitely not a bust in the classic Ryan Leaf sense, but more of a disappointment in the Greg Oden sense where he could have/be great if his injuries wouldn't have damaged his career.
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Post by thelonewolf527 on Oct 23, 2014 0:11:22 GMT -5
Oh he's a bust alright
He busted his wrist, his back, his neck, his legs, and probably every other bone in his body
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Post by Mozenrath on Oct 23, 2014 0:11:47 GMT -5
He was finally on the right track when he got hurt. Bad luck, really.
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Post by Digital Witness on Oct 23, 2014 0:14:12 GMT -5
Wade Barrett in a sea of guys who shouldn't have necessarily got a run with a world title is a guy who actually deserves to break the glass ceiling. The guy is a "total package" of strength, size, ability, can work the mic, and has an awesome character. He's everything WWE wants in a guy, and I blame them mostly for not capitalizing. Yes, he's had some bad injuries and I hope he rebounds, but I don't think its all his fault for WWE not utilizing him.
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Post by deancubed on Oct 23, 2014 0:54:49 GMT -5
As soon as he comes back to beat Ziggler for his IC title, he will get an enormous following as a face. It will last right up until people realize he's fighting Ziggler, then people will complain that Ziggler shouldn't be losing to a midcarder like Barrett. He will then get "go away" boos for a couple years until they finally move him up into the main event against Reigns or Bryan. Then he will get a career resurgence, and become a memorable main event heel for the next decade. Then he won't give up his spot because no one does anymore unless injuries or Hollywood come knocking. So we will all be like "when oh when will it be Tyler Breeze's time??? Barrett, Ambrose, and Bryan are so STALE AND BORING in the main event scene!".
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Post by Digital Witness on Oct 23, 2014 0:59:38 GMT -5
As soon as he comes back to beat Ziggler for his IC title, he will get an enormous following as a face. It will last right up until people realize he's fighting Ziggler, then people will complain that Ziggler shouldn't be losing to a midcarder like Barrett. He will then get "go away" boos for a couple years until they finally move him up into the main event against Reigns or Bryan. Then he will get a career resurgence, and become a memorable main event heel for the next decade. Then he won't give up his spot because no one does anymore unless injuries or Hollywood come knocking. So we will all be like "when oh when will it be Tyler Breeze's time??? Barrett, Ambrose, and Bryan are so STALE AND BORING in the main event scene!". ...what? Barrett and Ziggler are two upper mid card guys who are actually well over with the crowds. No one's going to hate on Barrett for taking the IC title, though I feel Ziggler and Barrett should be above the mid card titles at this point and should be feuding with the bigger dogs in the fight.
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