wisdomwizard
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Post by wisdomwizard on Oct 23, 2014 22:37:29 GMT -5
Well, at least she looks a lot better than she has in a while. Really wished she'd let her breakup with HHH go. 14 frickin' years, jeez......
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Post by Deleted on Oct 23, 2014 22:53:12 GMT -5
Damn, she even took a shot at Russo, he had nothing to do with it lol.
She needs to get over Triple H though. I mean it happened, big deal.
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Post by Renslayer on Oct 23, 2014 23:23:10 GMT -5
So what Chyna is saying is that as a survivor of domestic abuse she is offended by a zero tolerance policy for domestic abuse. I think what Chyna is saying is kind of on point. Zero tolerance like that places undue pressure on the victim to be silent in order to protect themselves from even further abuse. Women who have experienced DV in the NFL have expressed similar sentiments. Also, as she mentioned, in lots of places, both parties get arrested on a DV call, and if the WWE gets rid of you after an arrest, an innocent party may end up losing their job/money as a result. On a different note, I'm glad she's doing well. She needed to get away from the States in the worst way & it looks like being a teacher in Japan has done wonders for her.
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Post by Angus Mcloud on Oct 24, 2014 0:27:49 GMT -5
I watched a little of the video. I have zero interest in what shes saying but it makes me so happy to see her appearing to be clean and sober. She was always such a sad case when she was all drunk and drugged up. So glad to see her happy and on the right track.
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Post by King Devitt on Oct 24, 2014 2:05:34 GMT -5
Chyna is Matt Hardy.
HHH is Lita.
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Post by Ryushinku on Oct 24, 2014 2:51:20 GMT -5
Watching that video I fully expected to hear the door bell ring and then see a mustached man with a mullet and utilty belt walk into the house saying "I'm here to check your pipes... let me get my wrench out." "But first, let me let my snake out of his bag... If you know what I mean." Oh my God, he brought Waylon Mercy with him?
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Post by Greer on Oct 24, 2014 3:05:22 GMT -5
To be fair or to at least play devil's advocate here, it can be very difficult to get over someone you care for and have a very long history with.
On top of that, I'm sure it doesn't help knowing that the people that lied and had relations behind your back didn't really receive any punishment in the matter. If anything they were rewarded and continued to thrive and make more money in a business you were also in.
While it's easy for many to say "get over it", it's very easy to see why someone in her position would still be bitter and angry after all these years.
Not necessarily defending her...but can definitely see things from her side.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Oct 24, 2014 4:00:59 GMT -5
Damn, she even took a shot at Russo, he had nothing to do with it lol. She needs to get over Triple H though. I mean it happened, big deal. I think if Stephanie were just some random female wrestler or random model and not the future "Queen of the Wrestling Business, then Chyna might not feel so hurt about it. But in her eyes, HHH dumped her as a political move. Maybe that's why she won't let it go. This breakup pretty much forced her out of the wrestling business.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Oct 24, 2014 5:34:34 GMT -5
So does anyone blame HHH for choosing Stephanie over her?
Whenever someone breaks up with you, you have two choices. Work your ass off to prove they made a mistake or make poor choices and prove they were absolutely correct in leaving you. Chyna has proven multiple times HHH made the correct choice.
It's 14 years later, she needs to move on and get over it.
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Post by Woo on Oct 24, 2014 5:49:07 GMT -5
I knew Chyna was all about female empowerment when I watched six guys dressed as wrestlers splooge on her face. She's empowered in that she can make her own choices like a man can! If she wants to guzzle the jizz of six men she can! That's the rights she's fighting for! At least that's what people tell me when I argue that women like Beyone can't be feminists because of the raunchy photshoots they do. "She has the right to show off her body. It's empowering." "Oh please, the suffragettes never referred to their arses as 'bootylicious."
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Post by Essential1 on Oct 24, 2014 9:33:40 GMT -5
I just watched one of her scenes where this guy teabags her silly. Not sure if I can take her seriously ever again.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Oct 24, 2014 9:45:25 GMT -5
and if the WWE gets rid of you after an arrest, an innocent party may end up losing their job/money as a result. From what I remember reading they don't fire on arrest. They suspend on arrest (maybe after charges are brought up instead of just arrest I forget exactly) and terminate on conviction. So if both parties get arrested but one of them is released without charges, they still have their job.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 11:41:08 GMT -5
I just watched one of her scenes where this guy teabags her silly. Not sure if I can take her seriously ever again. I never get this line of thought, if someone doing a job (regardless of what it is) and they speak out when not doing their job, they should be taken seriously. I mean, once upon a time when I was down on rent I did alt-gay phone sex work, does that make any of my posts less valid? The answer is no, holding sex work against people as a means of invalidating opinions (whether anyone agrees with them or not) is an immature and uninformed way of dealing with any discussion.
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Post by Essential1 on Oct 24, 2014 11:49:30 GMT -5
I think it's more to do with people viewing Chyna as a delusional has-been who made really embarrassing porn flicks.
If they were any good and she wasn't off her head on drugs it might be different.
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Post by lesleymoon on Oct 24, 2014 14:32:45 GMT -5
Oh Chyna.
That poor girl needs intense and ongoing therapy.
I've always wanted to like her, because she does seem like a sweet person. I think she just has a boatload of emotional and psychological issues, that need to be addressed because she clearly hasn't gotten all the help she needs.
She does seem to be coherent here, which is good.
She definitely needs to let the HHH/Steph thing go. I know it must be rough, seeing them together, hearing about their marriage and kids and 'perfect' life and all that, it must suck. And its sad that they were all coworkers because she did get screwed in the situation and she was, from most reports, the victim in the situation.
Before making comments though, she needs to get her facts straight about their policy, otherwise she just sounds silly. The policy is, if you're arrested you get suspended, if you are convicted you're fired. Which doesn't seem fair on the surface, if both parties get arrested but I'm sure there is more investigation into things for both parties. Maybe there are (we don't know, obviously) resources within WWE for the victims that wouldn't lead to the victim being suspended or losing their job.
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Post by Zabel Zarock on Oct 24, 2014 18:47:53 GMT -5
I think it's more to do with people viewing Chyna as a delusional has-been who made really embarrassing porn flicks. If they were any good and she wasn't off her head on drugs it might be different. I'd say that's more of a problem with the people judging her based off of how she was making her money than her.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2014 19:00:05 GMT -5
I think it's more to do with people viewing Chyna as a delusional has-been who made really embarrassing porn flicks. If they were any good and she wasn't off her head on drugs it might be different. I'd say that's more of a problem with the people judging her based off of how she was making her money than her. I agree. The people pointing out that they don't trust her judgment or can't take her seriously because they've seen a guy cum on her face are just plain assholes. The ones who say it's because she's coming off as absolutely drug addled, if not currently at least there's been some damage done due to past use, actually have a point. Not listening to someone because they're a porn star = moronic. Not listening to someone who's brain has been fried = fair enough. Chyna's the latter. You could make a case that the decision to do former is a result of that, but that decision in and of itself has ZERO bearing on her ability to make a point.
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Post by Hurbster on Oct 24, 2014 22:55:00 GMT -5
But she did porn while fried - double jeopardy ?
And yes I am attempting in inject a little humour in amongst all the gnashing of teeth.
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Post by sonofblaine on Oct 24, 2014 23:17:30 GMT -5
But she did porn while fried - double jeopardy ? And yes I am attempting in inject a little humour in amongst all the gnashing of teeth. This is my thinking. There's a difference between people who do porn because they enjoy it, like the business and may eventually direct or take leadership roles (Katie Morgan for example), and someone who seems to have done it because it's a quick buck thanks to celebrity and to help pay their lifestyle and addictions (as Chyna seems to have done).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 25, 2014 10:38:28 GMT -5
I don't trust her judgment because she's exhibited bad judgment on a consistent basis for about as long as I can remember. =P
If the last 20 times you saw your friend leave your house, he tripped and fell on his face, on the 21st time do you give him a cake to carry to the car?
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