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Post by HMARK Center on Oct 28, 2014 16:45:05 GMT -5
gets catcalled about 108 times.
Want to feel incredibly uncomfortable for a couple of minutes?
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Post by Sephiroth on Oct 28, 2014 16:49:25 GMT -5
I tried cat calling once. But I guess her paws just couldn't handle picking up the phone.
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Post by PKO on Oct 28, 2014 17:11:33 GMT -5
Some of those are sleazy, some are creepy as f*** (the guy following her for five minutes [!] as she walks) but stuff like "have a good night", "how're you doing?"...I got that in NYC, and most big cities.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 28, 2014 17:17:07 GMT -5
I call BS... Ten hours and she wasn't mugged?
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Post by Thaal Sinestro on Oct 28, 2014 17:17:49 GMT -5
I feel uncomfortable 24 hours a day. This video won't do anything.
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Post by Toxik916 on Oct 28, 2014 17:20:35 GMT -5
Ehh most of that wasn't harassment. There's nothing wrong with seeing someone on the street and saying have a good night or good morning.
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Post by Hit Girl on Oct 28, 2014 17:26:33 GMT -5
"Have a nice evening"
"Hello"
"Good morning"
All this harrassment. It's awful
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Oct 28, 2014 17:30:40 GMT -5
In defense of men everywhere, at least one of those guys was just a homeless guy trying to hit her up for money.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Oct 28, 2014 17:31:49 GMT -5
Ehh most of that wasn't harassment. There's nothing wrong with seeing someone on the street and saying have a good night or good morning. 4 people did that. 4 people does not count as most. And they should shut the f*** up anyway.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 28, 2014 17:33:35 GMT -5
A lot of that was skeevy, some of it wasn't. The donation thing seems odd though; no program is gonna end that.
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Post by DSR on Oct 28, 2014 17:36:18 GMT -5
A lot of that was skeevy, some of it wasn't. The donation thing seems odd though; no program is gonna end that. With your help, maybe someday we can stop all men from talking to or looking at women. Please donate now.
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Post by King Boo on Oct 28, 2014 17:38:29 GMT -5
I think something is missing in this - it's not the words, it's the motivation behind saying them. It wasn't just to be friendly, otherwise they'd be saying it to everyone they saw. They're saying it specifically to her because she's a woman/they find her attractive/etc. You can tell the difference between someone being friendly and someone saying it because they think you're good looking.
Now, is saying things like "have a good evening" (which, what? you close a conversation with that, not say it randomly to someone on the street) alarming in the sense of "This person is definitely going to leap out and rape me?" No, it's not. But she knows why he said it, HE knows why he said it, and that can make it uncomfortable for someone.
Some of the other people...yowza. *THEY* were creepy and/or somewhat aggressive.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 28, 2014 17:42:39 GMT -5
I think something is missing in this - it's not the words, it's the motivation behind saying them. It wasn't just to be friendly, otherwise they'd be saying it to everyone they saw. They're saying it specifically to her because she's a woman/they find her attractive/etc. You can tell the difference between someone being friendly and someone saying it because they think you're good looking. Now, is saying things like "have a good evening" (which, what? you close a conversation with that, not say it randomly to someone on the street) alarming in the sense of "This person is definitely going to leap out and rape me?" No, it's not. But she knows why he said it, HE knows why he said it, and that can make it uncomfortable for someone. Some of the other people...yowza. *THEY* were creepy and/or somewhat aggressive. This is true too; it's pretty clear WHY they're saying whatever, even though some of it is relatively harmless. Some is just downright sleazy/aggressive though.
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Post by Glitch on Oct 28, 2014 17:43:29 GMT -5
A lot of that was skeevy, some of it wasn't. The donation thing seems odd though; no program is gonna end that. With your help, maybe someday we can stop all men from talking to or looking at women. Please donate now.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 28, 2014 17:43:51 GMT -5
A lot of that was skeevy, some of it wasn't. The donation thing seems odd though; no program is gonna end that. With your help, maybe someday we can stop all men from talking to or looking at women. Please donate now. Heh, there's that; but even what they're talking about harassment wise--that's a good thing to be against, but there's not a program in the world that's gonna stop a skeevy douche from saying shit.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Oct 28, 2014 17:45:45 GMT -5
With your help, maybe someday we can stop all men from talking to or looking at women. Please donate now. Not really, like I said, there's no real way to legislate or enforce the sort of thing a charity would be about; noble cause or not. Like you can encourage dudes not to be assholes all you want, some of em are gonna.
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Post by Sparkybob on Oct 28, 2014 17:48:27 GMT -5
Not sure how donations will help when it's a generational thing. Not like the government can pass and enforce laws to stop this.
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Post by Unaffiliated on Oct 28, 2014 18:02:51 GMT -5
Ehh most of that wasn't harassment. There's nothing wrong with seeing someone on the street and saying have a good night or good morning. 4 people did that. 4 people does not count as most. And they should shut the f*** up anyway. Actually it's 4 people shown doing that. If the point of the video was to donate to a cause about ending street harrassment, I'm sure she included the sleaziest of the lot. It wouldn't be too much to assume that the rest of the 108 catcalls were the usual boring "hellos" and "good mornings". Not to say street harrassment is not a big deal or that she should just live with it, but about the donation thing... Totally agree about the donation thing being odd. I can see how even the "hello, good mornings" can be interpreted as harrassment, but then there's way too much gray area around what is and is not acceptable. If taken to the extreme, then we will have a "let's stop men talking to or looking at women ever again" situation.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Oct 28, 2014 18:04:44 GMT -5
I think something is missing in this - it's not the words, it's the motivation behind saying them. It wasn't just to be friendly, otherwise they'd be saying it to everyone they saw. They're saying it specifically to her because she's a woman/they find her attractive/etc. You can tell the difference between someone being friendly and someone saying it because they think you're good looking. Now, is saying things like "have a good evening" (which, what? you close a conversation with that, not say it randomly to someone on the street) alarming in the sense of "This person is definitely going to leap out and rape me?" No, it's not. But she knows why he said it, HE knows why he said it, and that can make it uncomfortable for someone. Some of the other people...yowza. *THEY* were creepy and/or somewhat aggressive. Are people not allowed to say hello to attractive women or something? I say hello to pretty girls a lot, but I don't see how that can be considered cat calling or harassment. I don't understand how we are supposed to gauge these greeting by any sort of motivation anyway. There's really no way to tell any of that. But I get that lots of people did say incredibly inappropriate things to the girl. That's unfortunate, I just think when we start counting things like, "How are you today?" Or "have a good evening." It's unnecessary.
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Post by BlackoutCreature on Oct 28, 2014 18:06:34 GMT -5
Ok, there are apparently people on this thread who don't live in NYC and don't understand the rules of NYC.
Rule 1 - if somebody you don't know walks up to you on the street saying "hello" or "good morning" or a standard greeting as such, they are looking for money. They are not being friendly, they are not hitting on you, they are looking for money. If you say hello back or even casually glance back at them, they will start their story on why you should give them money.
Rule 2 - the subway doesn't close. Stop asking your friendly transit employee when/if it does.
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