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Post by Deleted on Oct 29, 2014 22:02:33 GMT -5
I liked the roll-up finish, it's sort of classic wrestling booking, they didn't want to be too decisive by having Roode win with his finish. Just getting the win was enough for this match, and it leaves Roode with another hill to climb in actually putting Lashley down for the count for a more definitive finish.
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Post by benstudd on Oct 29, 2014 22:34:15 GMT -5
I liked the roll-up finish, it's sort of classic wrestling booking, they didn't want to be too decisive by having Roode win with his finish. Just getting the win was enough for this match, and it leaves Roode with another hill to climb in actually putting Lashley down for the count for a more definitive finish. But I find that it's a problem in wrestling these days, in that they want to protect everybody but nobody really gets over. That finish felt like they said we want Roode to win clean but want Lashley to not be damaged by it. Instead of saying "f*** it, the winner needs to be put over big" like it should be.
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Post by jimmyjames on Oct 30, 2014 1:17:29 GMT -5
Srew you TNA. That's how you end this "feud". It's bad enough that with LAshley losing, the ONE good thing in TNA is over, but to have it end by having Roode sit on him. TNA was telegraphing this "win" from the start of the show, with that ridiculous opening with everyone wishing Roode the best (I guess TNA wrestlers have long term memory issues, as apparently they forgot Roode treating them like crap when he was champ), but that was one of the weakest championship changing wins I've ever seen, let alone for someone of Bobby Roodes caliber. Eric Young yes, but Booy Roode, hell NO.
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Post by benstudd on Oct 30, 2014 4:45:39 GMT -5
Srew you TNA. That's how you end this "feud". It's bad enough that with LAshley losing, the ONE good thing in TNA is over, but to have it end by having Roode sit on him. TNA was telegraphing this "win" from the start of the show, with that ridiculous opening with everyone wishing Roode the best (I guess TNA wrestlers have long term memory issues, as apparently they forgot Roode treating them like crap when he was champ), but that was one of the weakest championship changing wins I've ever seen, let alone for someone of Bobby Roodes caliber. Eric Young yes, but Booy Roode, hell NO. Yea compare it to the other match they had which had tons of drama and Roode lost. In this one, it just wasn't well done by TNA. He should probably should have won it the last time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 20:21:09 GMT -5
I liked the roll-up finish, it's sort of classic wrestling booking, they didn't want to be too decisive by having Roode win with his finish. Just getting the win was enough for this match, and it leaves Roode with another hill to climb in actually putting Lashley down for the count for a more definitive finish. But I find that it's a problem in wrestling these days, in that they want to protect everybody but nobody really gets over. That finish felt like they said we want Roode to win clean but want Lashley to not be damaged by it. Instead of saying "f*** it, the winner needs to be put over big" like it should be. They've got the rematch though. That's when Roode needs to win with his finish in the middle, no bullshit. I get reasoning for not digging it, but I like how it gave Roode his big moment and now he's got to ultimately prove he deserved it. By not having him win defintively with his finish, they left a little more story to tell.
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Post by JTG Fan on Oct 30, 2014 20:48:57 GMT -5
I have no complaints about the finish. Look at Flair vs. Vader at Starrcade 93. A babyface winning by the skin of their teeth helps tell the story that it only takes 3 seconds to be the better man and makes their monster heel opponent look as well.
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Post by benstudd on Oct 31, 2014 1:46:50 GMT -5
I have no complaints about the finish. Look at Flair vs. Vader at Starrcade 93. A babyface winning by the skin of their teeth helps tell the story that it only takes 3 seconds to be the better man and makes their monster heel opponent look as well. Difference is, Flair has always been known as chicken shit heel and Vader was a true monster, much bigger than Lashley. It was almost impossible for Flair to defeat Vader so they had to do this. With Lashley, Roode didn't have to win on a fluke, he's a known badass that can wrestle circles around most wrestlers. But I felt that the whole psychology of that match was off. I mean Roode said "I may not be as fast or as strong as you Lashley but I have more heart than you". Yet nowhere during the match did we see this. It was pretty even and both guys were exchanging moves for moves. And there was a few times when Lashley was working on Roode's back but that's it. At least have a situation where Lash dominates and almost pin Bobby but Roode always survive. And even that angle "having heart", when has this been part of Roode's character? His thing was that he was a hard ass in the ring with a boiling temper and he was also a good mat technician and was willing to do anything he can to win(Selfish Generation). Faced by a superior opponant like Lash, he should have taken him apart Arn Anderson style. Take a body part and work on it like crazy until Lashley gives up. Imagine how rewarding it would have been to beat a monster like this fair and square, by being super calculating.
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Post by Mayonnaise on Oct 31, 2014 2:04:09 GMT -5
My problem with the finish has a lot to do with knowing TNA's immediate future. Lashley has been built up in TNA like WWE has done for Lesnar. He is someone that has destroyed everyone in TNA including Bobby Roode. Him losing should be a major moment that is on the highlight reel for the guy that does it for years to come but instead Roode drops down in a halfassed attempt at the SS92 finish, get the 3, the title and show's over. There is nothing there, there was more excitement in Eddie Edwards v. James Storm earlier in the night. Extremely Minor spoiler. No match results, just line ups. {Spoiler}Unless they do a taping that has not been announced yet, they don't do Roode/Lashley again. Roode/MVP is the only title match scheduled. On top of that, IF they leave SPIKE, I think they lose access to Bobby since he's got a Belabor deal which means no one really beats the monster.
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Post by benstudd on Oct 31, 2014 22:35:42 GMT -5
My problem with the finish has a lot to do with knowing TNA's immediate future. Lashley has been built up in TNA like WWE has done for Lesnar. He is someone that has destroyed everyone in TNA including Bobby Roode. Him losing should be a major moment that is on the highlight reel for the guy that does it for years to come but instead Roode drops down in a halfassed attempt at the SS92 finish, get the 3, the title and show's over. There is nothing there, there was more excitement in Eddie Edwards v. James Storm earlier in the night. Extremely Minor spoiler. No match results, just line ups. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Unless they do a taping that has not been announced yet, they don't do Roode/Lashley again. Roode/MVP is the only title match scheduled. On top of that, IF they leave SPIKE, I think they lose access to Bobby since he's got a Belabor deal which means no one really beats the monster. Exactly. Not only there was no drama in that match but defeating an invincible monster via roll-up was just a sad ending. Imagine seeing Jaws and at the end the shark advance and Brodie has his riffle ready and just when the confrontation is about to come down, the shark misses Brodie and crash into the boat and die.
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