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Post by Andy Martin on Oct 30, 2014 11:47:03 GMT -5
I'm not excusing the "good ol' boy" behavior, and I'm sure HHH is doing what he can to rid The E of this If Ricardo Rodriguez is to be believed, Triple H is a major part of the problem. And if THAT is true, it's not surprising.
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Post by Tiger Millionaire on Oct 30, 2014 11:48:17 GMT -5
I believe the racism claims. I think the monetary claims are exaggerations.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Oct 30, 2014 11:50:21 GMT -5
Wages were always going to drop like a rock when they got developmental working correctly and the WWE network got up and running. Now almost every talent is replaceable and they know it so won't make waves as where are they going to go should the WWE can them before they have a chance to make real money?
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Oct 30, 2014 11:51:35 GMT -5
I have to hand it to Del Rio for his bravery.
I think that the WWE simply didn't know what to do with him. He's much better off working in Mexico and raking in the dough. A solid worker.
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Post by Steveweiser on Oct 30, 2014 12:19:37 GMT -5
Reading the actual interview in FSM, nowhere does it say that the guy who told Del Rio this has a brother in the company, but Del Rio uses "Brother" for that guy's words to him the same way Hogan would. He does say "the top heel wrestler in the company", which could be any of Randy Orton, Bray Wyatt, Seth Rollins etc - though he also says this guy worked Superstars, and no-one who's "the top heel wrestler in the company" would work Superstars.
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Post by gbo86 on Oct 30, 2014 14:37:26 GMT -5
Knowing how much better off financially people would be working for ROH or in Mexico, why don't they just do it? WWE isn't changing that until they have a reason to.
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Post by mizerable on Oct 30, 2014 14:47:10 GMT -5
Knowing how much better off financially people would be working for ROH or in Mexico, why don't they just do it? WWE isn't changing that until they have a reason to. Because there's some bullshit stigma in wrestling that you don't "make it" until you make it to WWE. It's the same stigma which is why so many people refuse to challenge WWE in ways Ted Turner did back in the 90's. Until there's an equal quality organization out there, the talent is going to continue to get the raw end of the deal.
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Post by Chainsaw on Oct 30, 2014 14:58:35 GMT -5
Reading the actual interview in FSM, nowhere does it say that the guy who told Del Rio this has a brother in the company, but Del Rio uses "Brother" for that guy's words to him the same way Hogan would. He does say "the top heel wrestler in the company", which could be any of Randy Orton, Bray Wyatt, Seth Rollins etc - though he also says this guy worked Superstars, and no-one who's "the top heel wrestler in the company" would work Superstars. Seth, maybe? I think he was on Superstars a bit after his heel turn to sell his heelness.
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Post by Sparvid on Oct 30, 2014 17:35:09 GMT -5
I believe the racism claims. I think the monetary claims are exaggerations. Don't WWE wrestlers get paid a monthly downside, plus bonuses for PPVs (well, at least pre-Network), live events, merch, etc? Saying that someone got paid this particular amount for this particular day sounds strange for the WWE enviroment.
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Post by Hobby Drifter on Oct 30, 2014 18:41:25 GMT -5
I thought it was pretty well known that, these days, if you're not at least in the upper midcard, the pay-to-work ratio for WWE wrestlers is absurdly low. Basically, if you've got the talent and drive to make it WWE TV, you could almost certainly make far more money in any number of other lines of work.
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Post by Raskovnik on Oct 30, 2014 18:47:37 GMT -5
You know how bummed you get when it turns out your favorite singer or actor is a total dickbag? I get like the exact opposite of that feeling whenever these Del Rio interviews come out. One of my favorite wrestlers and a smart dude who doesn't take any shit. It's great.
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Post by Boo! on Oct 30, 2014 19:13:06 GMT -5
Racism is bad, but if the most interesting thing about your life is being subject of a racial slur then have a evaluate your life. He's becoming like one of these women who have a one-night-stand with a pop star an then make a career out of it. He'll be milking this cow for years now. It's his new gimmick. "I was once subjected to a racial insult" - I'll bet ten bucks he has business cards with words to that effect on
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Post by Deleted on Oct 30, 2014 19:18:04 GMT -5
I believe the racism claims. I think the monetary claims are exaggerations. Don't WWE wrestlers get paid a monthly downside, plus bonuses for PPVs (well, at least pre-Network), live events, merch, etc? Saying that someone got paid this particular amount for this particular day sounds strange for the WWE enviroment. I don't believe the wrestlers get their downside in addition everything else. For example if they have a $2,000 per month downside guarantee and they make $3,500 from everything else that month, they bring home $3,500, not $5,500.
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Post by Apricots And A Pear Tree on Oct 30, 2014 19:22:36 GMT -5
but Del Rio uses "Brother" for that guy's words to him the same way Hogan would. That settles it, WWE need to bring Del Rio back in a Hulk Hogan gimmick "It's destiny, Brother!"
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Post by Starshine on Oct 30, 2014 19:28:59 GMT -5
Racism is bad, but if the most interesting thing about your life is being subject of a racial slur then have a evaluate your life. He's becoming like one of these women who have a one-night-stand with a pop star an then make a career out of it. He'll be milking this cow for years now. It's his new gimmick. "I was once subjected to a racial insult" - I'll bet ten bucks he has business cards with words to that effect on Um, it's kind of the thing most people wanted to hear about since it led to his departure and all, also it's not the only thing he's talking about. Plus it only happened recently, we're barely 3 months removed from when it went down. Let's at least give it some time before we start assuming he's using it as a crutch (which he isn't even doing now).
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Post by fortknox on Oct 30, 2014 19:32:24 GMT -5
I believe the racism claims. I think the monetary claims are exaggerations. Don't WWE wrestlers get paid a monthly downside, plus bonuses for PPVs (well, at least pre-Network), live events, merch, etc? Saying that someone got paid this particular amount for this particular day sounds strange for the WWE enviroment. I remember reading a few years ago around the time Nexus was called up that when people from NXT/FCW are called up they are still under the development contract which is $500 a week. Now that's good money when your living and wrestling in base area, in this case Orlando and the surrounding areas, but, when you get called up and you're traveling all over the country and you have to pay for your own hotel and rental car the $500 a week doesn't go as far.
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Post by barelybeastmode on Oct 30, 2014 19:56:52 GMT -5
I wish Del Rio would have come out about the apparently common place racism while he still worked there. That's the only way things will change is by bringing the public's attention to it. And since he was a relatively high up while he was there I would think others, lower and higher on the totem pole might have come out as well. I absolutely hate the go along to get along mentality. And that seems to be the modus operandi of the WWE. Ugh, it's completely toxic. I can't imagine working in such an environment.
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Post by xCompackx on Oct 30, 2014 20:04:25 GMT -5
I wish Del Rio would have come out about the apparently common place racism while he still worked there. That's the only way things will change is by bringing the public's attention to it. And since he was a relatively high up while he was there I would think others, lower and higher on the totem pole might have come out as well. I absolutely hate the go along to get along mentality. And that seems to be the modus operandi of the WWE. Ugh, it's completely toxic. I can't imagine working in such an environment. Just another example of how hypocritical WWE is as a company, really. They promote anti-bullying and become really self-conscious about their image, yet there's still plenty of problems in the locker room that they don't seem intent to address.
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Post by Juice on Oct 30, 2014 20:16:01 GMT -5
I make 500 every week and a half. one night of wrestling shit that totals to probably less than an hour not bad imo
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Oct 30, 2014 20:21:50 GMT -5
That racist higher up wouldnt happen to be "Free as a Bird" would they?
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