Who will Cena put over before he retires?

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As the title states, who will Cena put over? Put over as in legit lose in a future feud with them. Bray for example was not put over.

Who do you think?

Only ones I can honestly see are Ambrose, Rollins and Reigns. I really can't think of anyone else that definitely might get put over by Cena. These three were flatout said going to be future world champions in the latest Shield documentary and they basically said the company will be built around these three dudes. Maybe Cesaro but that's a big big big maybe. NXT I don't see anyone besides Kenta and that's considering who he is but that's about as far as I'll go. I'll also say Bray Wyatt considering Cena said that they'll definitely meet again in the future after he literally buried Bray.

[Mozenrath]

NO ONE HAHAHA

With that horseshit out of the way, probably someone like a Shield guy. I kind of get the feeling it'd be a face, and not a heel, that he'd put over huge on his way out.

[Prince Petty]

The as yet unborn Levesque-McMahon scion.

Depends when he retires, really. If it's in the next year, then any of Ambrose, Rollins or Reigns seem decent bets. But if it's years from now, then those guys would all hopefully be over enough that they don't need the rub from beating old John (that sounds filthy. Sorry).

[Hanzo]

That's the thing, though: Cena is willing to job to anybody with a pulse. So whenever what you're talking about happens, it probably won't be that big of a deal.

[Essential1]

Little Jimmy.

[sonofblaine]

[Instant Classic]

Kevin Owens

[Mozenrath]

Oct 30, 2014 16:44:43 GMT -5 sonofblaine said:

At Twister?

[fw91]

from the looks of it, J.J.Bella

[Boo!]

I have a problem with the concept of putting people over. IMO it's overrated. The real breakout stars get themselves over, essentially. They have guys job for them along the way fine but I don't think you can name any break-out/massive superstar of any era who anyone has ever said "I'd not like them now if X didn't lay down for him" about, ever.

I also think the idea is overrated. Did Hogan laying down for Warrior help? Sure. But would Warrior's post April 90 been any worse if they switched the belt to Quake and have him face Warrior a WM? No. The event would mean less but Warrior's elevation wouldn't hve been much different at all. The trajectory Warrior was on was down to the Warrior character himself.

With VERY few exceptions the concept of the 'put over' is a greatly exaggerated. Not least because there have only been a handful of guys in the last 30 years who have ever had the ability to do it. Cena's lost too many times to really put someone over already anyway IMO. It'll be a slight boost to whoever does it but if the person is on the rise anyway it'll be little difference. It'll make a good DVD match but nobody will suffer if it doesn't happen.

Hogan was never 'put over' by Andre until he was already the big star. it was nice but Hogan never suffered through nobody putting him over before 1987

[mizerable]

It's be nice if he did a clean heel job. I mean it can be something where he immediately gets up shocked that it happened, but at least sell us on the idea that even the best out there have their off days. I pick Seth Rollins to get him with a quick roll up.

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Oct 30, 2014 16:23:47 GMT -5 Hanzo said:

That's the thing, though: Cena is willing to job to anybody with a pulse. So whenever what you're talking about happens, it probably won't be that big of a deal.

WUT DA HAYLE?!

[northernmonkey]

I think he'll carry on doing what he is now for at least another 5 years

[Mid-Carder]

Roman Reigns, probably. But at this rate, Cena will outlast all the new guys.

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Owen Steen

[thecrusherwi]

Oct 30, 2014 16:49:29 GMT -5 Boo! said:

I have a problem with the concept of putting people over. IMO it's overrated. The real breakout stars get themselves over, essentially. They have guys job for them along the way fine but I don't think you can name any break-out/massive superstar of any era who anyone has ever said "I'd not like them now if X didn't lay down for him" about, ever.

I also think the idea is overrated. Did Hogan laying down for Warrior help? Sure. But would Warrior's post April 90 been any worse if they switched the belt to Quake and have him face Warrior a WM? No. The event would mean less but Warrior's elevation wouldn't hve been much different at all. The trajectory Warrior was on was down to the Warrior character himself.

With VERY few exceptions the concept of the 'put over' is a greatly exaggerated. Not least because there have only been a handful of guys in the last 30 years who have ever had the ability to do it. Cena's lost too many times to really put someone over already anyway IMO. It'll be a slight boost to whoever does it but if the person is on the rise anyway it'll be little difference. It'll make a good DVD match but nobody will suffer if it doesn't happen.

Hogan was never 'put over' by Andre until he was already the big star. it was nice but Hogan never suffered through nobody putting him over before 1987

I think even better examples are from the Attitude Era. Austin and DDP almost never won in 1997 and The Rock spent his first year as a main eventer jobbing to Austin and Triple H repeatedly, yet all three kept getting more and more over with each week.

On the flip side, Goldberg was HUGE by the time by faced Hogan and who is the most important guy he beat? Raven? He got to be a star without being put over (though the Hogan win still helped take him even higher). If the crowd likes you, you don't need to be put over and you can't be jobbed out.

[Bo Rida]

Oct 30, 2014 16:23:47 GMT -5 Hanzo said:

That's the thing, though: Cena is willing to job to anybody with a pulse. So whenever what you're talking about happens, it probably won't be that big of a deal.

Yep, he's jobbed to a fair few people but when it came to launching guys into the upper echelon of talent he's already put Punk and Bryan over. Anything that happened afterwards is hardly his fault.

With that done he put over the new up and comer Brock Lesnar by getting squashed. That was the big one, anything that comes now won't be as big of a deal.

It's possible he'll reinvent himself to the point he can do it again but without a heel turn that seems unlikely, he can't really get to the Jericho stage where a win over him isn't much more than a rite of passage.

That theoretically leaves his retirement match but judging by Flair and HBK that honour will be given to somebody who is already established.

[Jedi-El of Tomorrow]

Oct 30, 2014 16:44:43 GMT -5 sonofblaine said:

Finally William Sadler gets his time to shine.

[xCompackx]

Oct 30, 2014 16:49:29 GMT -5 Boo! said:

I have a problem with the concept of putting people over. IMO it's overrated. The real breakout stars get themselves over, essentially. They have guys job for them along the way fine but I don't think you can name any break-out/massive superstar of any era who anyone has ever said "I'd not like them now if X didn't lay down for him" about, ever.

I also think the idea is overrated. Did Hogan laying down for Warrior help? Sure. But would Warrior's post April 90 been any worse if they switched the belt to Quake and have him face Warrior a WM? No. The event would mean less but Warrior's elevation wouldn't hve been much different at all. The trajectory Warrior was on was down to the Warrior character himself.

With VERY few exceptions the concept of the 'put over' is a greatly exaggerated. Not least because there have only been a handful of guys in the last 30 years who have ever had the ability to do it. Cena's lost too many times to really put someone over already anyway IMO. It'll be a slight boost to whoever does it but if the person is on the rise anyway it'll be little difference. It'll make a good DVD match but nobody will suffer if it doesn't happen.

Hogan was never 'put over' by Andre until he was already the big star. it was nice but Hogan never suffered through nobody putting him over before 1987

It doesn't really help that Creative rarely capitalizes on it anyway. When Rock "passed the torch" to Cena (ugh), it's hardly even been referenced afterwards. They're trying to keep Brock beating The Streak relevant, but it's not any better.

[xxshoyuweeniexx]

Oct 30, 2014 16:23:47 GMT -5 Hanzo said:

That's the thing, though: Cena is willing to job to anybody with a pulse. So whenever what you're talking about happens, it probably won't be that big of a deal.

What's more important is the aftermath. If it's a bunch of stupid angles, shitty matches, and terrible promos and opponents, being put over by John Cena means jackshit then.