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Post by chrom on Dec 10, 2014 16:03:37 GMT -5
So now their moving to The Death Slot for shows?
Whatever, I don't get DA anyway but I do get AXS and NJPW will be airing the 16th at 8.
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ICBM
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Post by ICBM on Dec 10, 2014 16:19:57 GMT -5
Marathon, this is how you launch a product. Now as to how well structured the product they run in the marathon will be? Meh, it's TNA not a solid track record there folks
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 10, 2014 16:36:53 GMT -5
Marathon, this is how you launch a product. Now as to how well structured the product they run in the marathon will be? Meh, it's TNA not a solid track record there folks This just reminds me of when they ran a Monday Night Best of Special because Raw was preempted due to something (dog show or us open probably) anyway... TNA immediately opens up by insulting both the WWE and it's fans... and they did it more than once during the course of the show... making sure that any of said fans flipping channels due to Raw not being on were insulted by the company and now have negative connotations associated with it and will never watch again.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Dec 10, 2014 17:37:17 GMT -5
Wait what? Live wednesday, regular start Fridays? Aren't they gonna start taping this month? Or early January? Are they gonna tape a bunch of impacts, then a live impact, then show the impacts that were taped before the live episode?
Also, Friday? Really, destination America? You have so much programming throughout the week, you have to give the one show that might draw ratings on Fridays?
Oh well at least we get
Monday: Raw Tuesday: Main Event Wednesday: NXT/Lucha Underground Thursday: Smackdown Friday: Impact. Saturdays/sundays: ROH (check your local listings)
Damn son, that's a lot of wrestling.
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Post by Steveweiser on Dec 10, 2014 17:46:25 GMT -5
IIRC, the first taping date is January 6th, so either they'll be taping then for episodes that air AFTER January 7th, or the first episode won't in fact be live at all.
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Post by ICBM on Dec 10, 2014 19:53:42 GMT -5
Wait what? Live wednesday, regular start Fridays? Aren't they gonna start taping this month? Or early January? Are they gonna tape a bunch of impacts, then a live impact, then show the impacts that were taped before the live episode? Also, Friday? Really, destination America? You have so much programming throughout the week, you have to give the one show that might draw ratings on Fridays? Oh well at least we get Monday: Raw Tuesday: Main Event Wednesday: NXT/Lucha Underground Thursday: Smackdown Friday: Impact. Saturdays/sundays: ROH (check your local listings) Damn son, that's a lot of wrestling. Young man, in the America I grew up in that slate of wrestling was Friday and Saturday. The 80's were a hell of a time to be a mark for wrestling.
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Post by MC Blowfish on Dec 11, 2014 17:13:11 GMT -5
Wait what? Live wednesday, regular start Fridays? Aren't they gonna start taping this month? Or early January? Are they gonna tape a bunch of impacts, then a live impact, then show the impacts that were taped before the live episode? Also, Friday? Really, destination America? You have so much programming throughout the week, you have to give the one show that might draw ratings on Fridays? Oh well at least we get Monday: Raw Tuesday: Main Event Wednesday: NXT/Lucha Underground Thursday: Smackdown Friday: Impact. Saturdays/sundays: ROH (check your local listings) Damn son, that's a lot of wrestling. Young man, in the America I grew up in that slate of wrestling was Friday and Saturday. The 80's were a hell of a time to be a mark for wrestling. NWA/WCW on Saturday mornings, afternoons and Sunday afternoons. Unless a Braves game was on. AWA on Saturday mornings. WWF on both Saturday and Sunday mornings. An occasional Saturday Night Main Event. Plus you got WCCW on ESPN and WWF on Monday night. It was so much fun.
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Post by ICBM on Dec 11, 2014 20:31:30 GMT -5
Young man, in the America I grew up in that slate of wrestling was Friday and Saturday. The 80's were a hell of a time to be a mark for wrestling. NWA/WCW on Saturday mornings, afternoons and Sunday afternoons. Unless a Braves game was on. AWA on Saturday mornings. WWF on both Saturday and Sunday mornings. An occasional Saturday Night Main Event. Plus you got WCCW on ESPN and WWF on Monday night. It was so much fun. I know cable systems differed on when some shows ran. For me: Friday 4:00pm ESPN wccw replay from three yrs before Friday 8pm ESPN AWA Friday local UHF out of Houston NWA Worldwide Saturday 8am wccw show taped Friday night(sometimes followed immediately by wild west wrestling a wccw collection of bigger house show matches) Saturday am wcw (recently renamed from GCW) Saturday 11am WWF wrestling challenge on usa Saturday 5:05 central TBS NWA Saturday night main event once a month or regular WWF Houston superstars of wrestling Sunday 4:05 nwa main event
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Post by SAJ Forth on Dec 13, 2014 21:59:21 GMT -5
We'll now they have a new home.
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Post by benstudd on Dec 15, 2014 2:08:52 GMT -5
Even if Impact is on Friday, I think they manage to get a good number of shows which is what they wanted. You have Impact, then a re-run just after, a Saturday Morning highlight show and a flashback show for Wednesdays. I feel like they should be more aggressive with their flashback show, actually, you can pretty much show what you want, the best stuff with all the AJ Styles X Division matches. Give it a name, at least.
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Post by OVO 40 hunched over like he 80 on Dec 15, 2014 10:46:39 GMT -5
I'm really scared because I don't know if they're gonna be able to survive, I wonder that their business model it's gonna be, are they gonna stop doing house shows? Are they gonna stop doing ppv's? They lost a good portion of fans when they moved to Wednesdays because they didn't advertised it, do their casual fans even know what's going on and where to look for them? I don't know if it has been advertised on spike that they are leaving the network
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 15, 2014 15:34:32 GMT -5
I'm really scared because I don't know if they're gonna be able to survive, I wonder that their business model it's gonna be, are they gonna stop doing house shows? Are they gonna stop doing ppv's? They lost a good portion of fans when they moved to Wednesdays because they didn't advertised it, do their casual fans even know what's going on and where to look for them? I don't know if it has been advertised on spike that they are leaving the network They should stop doing house shows. If they're already touring just to do house shows, those events should instead be Tapings for individual episodes of Impact rather than doing the block tapings And they should stop doing PPVs. The only reason TNA does PPVs is because "that's what WWF/E, WCW, and ECW did" so they think that's what a wrestling promotion is "supposed" to do.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 15, 2014 16:03:18 GMT -5
I'm really scared because I don't know if they're gonna be able to survive, I wonder that their business model it's gonna be, are they gonna stop doing house shows? Are they gonna stop doing ppv's? They lost a good portion of fans when they moved to Wednesdays because they didn't advertised it, do their casual fans even know what's going on and where to look for them? I don't know if it has been advertised on spike that they are leaving the network They should stop doing house shows. If they're already touring just to do house shows, those events should instead be Tapings for individual episodes of Impact rather than doing the block tapings And they should stop doing PPVs. The only reason TNA does PPVs is because "that's what WWF/E, WCW, and ECW did" so they think that's what a wrestling promotion is "supposed" to do. They done away with all of those things because TNA wasn't making enough money to justify continuing going into the hole financially. And you do realize that ppvs and house shows are ways for wrestling companies to make money? Especially needed for TNA since Panda Energy drastically cut their budget and their new tv deal is much, much lower than what Spike was giving to them. Wrestling tv shows are basically infomercials to sell people things to buy what the company is shilling. Whether it's merchandise, ppvs, or house shows. So TNA are slaves into hoping enough folks come out to the tapings and Destination America's checks clear in time so they can make enough money to hopefully tape the next series of episodes. That's the reason why Impact ran out of episodes for Spike to air. They ran out of money needed to tape more to cover their run. How you expect them to continuing to survive going by that business model?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2014 1:55:55 GMT -5
They should stop doing house shows. If they're already touring just to do house shows, those events should instead be Tapings for individual episodes of Impact rather than doing the block tapings And they should stop doing PPVs. The only reason TNA does PPVs is because "that's what WWF/E, WCW, and ECW did" so they think that's what a wrestling promotion is "supposed" to do. They done away with all of those things because TNA wasn't making enough money to justify continuing going into the hole financially. And you do realize that ppvs and house shows are ways for wrestling companies to make money? Especially needed for TNA since Panda Energy drastically cut their budget and their new tv deal is much, much lower than what Spike was giving to them. Wrestling tv shows are basically infomercials to sell people things to buy what the company is shilling. Whether it's merchandise, ppvs, or house shows. So TNA are slaves into hoping enough folks come out to the tapings and Destination America's checks clear in time so they can make enough money to hopefully tape the next series of episodes. That's the reason why Impact ran out of episodes for Spike to air. They ran out of money needed to tape more to cover their run. How you expect them to continuing to survive going by that business model? By most accounts their PPVs and house shows also just put them deeper in the red and they don't actually make any money off of them. TNA's likely not surviving at this point no matter what they do, but they might as well try and focus on trying to be as cheap as they possibly can in taping Impact while saving what they can from what Destination America gives them, and maybe just have one PPV a year that they aggressively market for months leading up to it, plus try and get better at getting people to actually come pay to watch Impact and at trying to make merch people will want to get. It's not likely to work but going small-scale and trying to take their victories where they can is for the better because as it stands they really can't afford to tape their actual show as it is, so no sense blowing even more money trying to do side stuff that isn't worth it.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Dec 17, 2014 6:43:48 GMT -5
They done away with all of those things because TNA wasn't making enough money to justify continuing going into the hole financially. And you do realize that ppvs and house shows are ways for wrestling companies to make money? Especially needed for TNA since Panda Energy drastically cut their budget and their new tv deal is much, much lower than what Spike was giving to them. Wrestling tv shows are basically infomercials to sell people things to buy what the company is shilling. Whether it's merchandise, ppvs, or house shows. So TNA are slaves into hoping enough folks come out to the tapings and Destination America's checks clear in time so they can make enough money to hopefully tape the next series of episodes. That's the reason why Impact ran out of episodes for Spike to air. They ran out of money needed to tape more to cover their run. How you expect them to continuing to survive going by that business model? By most accounts their PPVs and house shows also just put them deeper in the red and they don't actually make any money off of them. TNA's likely not surviving at this point no matter what they do, but they might as well try and focus on trying to be as cheap as they possibly can in taping Impact while saving what they can from what Destination America gives them, and maybe just have one PPV a year that they aggressively market for months leading up to it, plus try and get better at getting people to actually come pay to watch Impact and at trying to make merch people will want to get. It's not likely to work but going small-scale and trying to take their victories where they can is for the better because as it stands they really can't afford to tape their actual show as it is, so no sense blowing even more money trying to do side stuff that isn't worth it. They might as well and go full Russo. Because as someone who watched WCW before and after they made full budget cuts towards their end of their lifecycle, going cheap turns people off no matter if the product is good or not. It's TNA fault for not setting up a system to make money outside of tv deals. When you make ppvs obsolete by giving away title changes and marquee matches on the next Impact, don't be surprised that no one wants to watch the next ppv. Or headline a house show with Gunner vs Magnus with no big names on the card. When you create a climate of failure, don't be surprised when things can't work.
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Post by Chainsaw on Dec 18, 2014 11:05:17 GMT -5
I have to say, I'm actually impressed that TNA somehow didn't botch it in some way where Spike didn't own all of the footage that TNA ran on it's network. I would have figured they would have somehow signed all of that over when they got that brief extension.
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Post by benstudd on Dec 19, 2014 2:34:17 GMT -5
Having a few PPV shows a year that you make special and market well is not the worse idea. They were doing OK numbers before Hogan and they had 12 of them. Just do it right.
As for house shows, do it by seasons. They could say, not travel much and then go to Great Britain for a month in the Spring. Then they could give it a go in the NY territory in the winter. It's all about balance.
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Post by Brood Lone Wolf Funker on Dec 22, 2014 18:24:18 GMT -5
I really do think TNA could do well on Destination America. If a Haunting can keep going why not TNA
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 23, 2014 8:51:07 GMT -5
I really do think TNA could do well on Destination America. If a Haunting can keep going why not TNA Well with how invested Destination America seems to be in TNA, if TNA fails it'll be on them.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 23:33:36 GMT -5
I was flipping channels and I unexpectedly found Destination America. So I guess I have it.
Is that a good thing?
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