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Post by Beets by Schrute on Dec 20, 2014 23:10:03 GMT -5
I've been very meh on this trilogy. The hidden use of effects that was in LOTR was the opposite in the Hobbit. Second, the group of dwarves were not memorable. I cannot for the life of me tell who was who. Even minor characters in Game of Thrones were more memorable than the dwarves. Third, was the love story really necessary? ]Fourth, {Spoiler}As the Dude would say, "I hate the f***ing Eagles man!" I rank the films (1) Desolation of Smaug. (2) Battle of the Five Armies. (3) An Unexpected Journey. The trilogy I rate 6/10. {Spoiler}When Legolas killed Bolg, I shouted "that still only counts as 1!" and the person in front of me lost it.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 20, 2014 23:29:58 GMT -5
I actually liked this one the most, because it was the shortest of the bunch. >_>
Also because Bard was a bit of a badass.
As for the Dwarves not being memorable.....yeah that was kind of an issue. Some of them I legitimately keep forgetting existed, and a few of them I only remember them for their looks, not their name. Such as the one with the funny looking hat with the flaps, the one with the star-shaped hairdo, the one with the hearing horn, and the fat ginger one. The few I remembered the names of were either because they had a lot of screentime(Thorin and Balin), or because I liked their actors and made it my task to remember them(Kili and Dwalin, specifically because I liked Aidan Turner(Kili) as Mitchell in Being Human and Graham McTavish(Dwalin) in Uncharted 3).
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 21, 2014 1:53:26 GMT -5
I felt about it like I did the first one (somehow never got around to the second one, saw this one on a whim): It was ok, a lil too long, and nothing I'll ever watch again; but alright.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Dec 21, 2014 11:30:38 GMT -5
I enjoyed it. I hated that the coward got not comeuppance. If a sniveling, bullying ass isn't going to get stomped by a troll, why give him so much screentime?
Also Legolas flying on the bat, running up the falling bricks and the hurracarana were just silly.
On the plus side Dain was awesome and I loved seeing the dwarf army go to battle.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 21, 2014 12:07:19 GMT -5
I actually liked this one the most, because it was the shortest of the bunch. >_> Also because Bard was a bit of a badass. Yeah the 2 best things about making it a trilogy was that it meant more time with Smaug (2 movies means a lot would have been cut), and giving Bard a backstory and more time.
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Post by Famous Rocking Chimes on Dec 21, 2014 13:27:30 GMT -5
I enjoyed it. I hated that the coward got not comeuppance. If a sniveling, bullying ass isn't going to get stomped by a troll, why give him so much screentime? Also Legolas flying on the bat, running up the falling bricks and the hurracarana were just silly. On the plus side Dain was awesome and I loved seeing the dwarf army go to battle. Peter Jackson: Because that's life! Batista: DEAL WITH IT! I kid, but I get what you're on about.
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Post by Jiren on Dec 21, 2014 13:39:26 GMT -5
I enjoyed it. I hated that the coward got not comeuppance. If a sniveling, bullying ass isn't going to get stomped by a troll, why give him so much screentime? Extended edition maybe?
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Post by adamclark52 on Dec 21, 2014 13:46:00 GMT -5
I enjoyed it. I hated that the coward got not comeuppance. If a sniveling, bullying ass isn't going to get stomped by a troll, why give him so much screentime? I kid you not, that guy looks and acts exactly like an apprentice I used to have. Sad thing is he's a licensed journeyman now and is really riding the high-horse.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 21, 2014 17:10:53 GMT -5
The Hobbit: Battle of the Five Armies Short review: F*** this waste of film and ban Peter Jackson from ever touching a movie series again. Longer Review: WARNING: This will be ranty and disorganized, much like the movie itself. Also, minor spoilers, but nothing huge. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}{Spoiler}I was not a big fan of this movie. It has been one of the more blatant cashgrabs in folmdom. And while I don't mind the occasional cashgrab, I only ask that the slightest bit of effort is put into them.
This movie opens up with a cool sequence that would have been incalcuably better at the end of the last movie, which this movie only slightly beat out for worst in the series.
After that it builds to something that has potential, before just phoning it in with a battle of five armies that looks like it was animated by interns for college credit. Brilliant choice making the dwarves and orcs have the same armor, could definitely tell what was going on.
The battle in and of itself plays second fiddle to random duels far away, as an entire second army is held off by 6 people. By the time the deus ex machinas show up, you'll be asking yourself, "Why bother?"
Re the orcs. If you thought they made stormtroopers look competent in the last movie, get ready for, I shit you not, shovel-wielding women fighting off orc legions who were "bred for war."
Presented here is a quote summing up the whole problem. At one point, 4 dwarves are charging towards a boss battle, and some hell on toast looking goblins come over the wall.
"Goblin mercenaries, near a hundred of them." "You two go on ahead, we'll hold them off."
And they do, without a sweat.
Let me make one thing clear as well. There is death in this movie, but no one you would care about. Lots of red shirt elves and dwarves meet their end, and named characters walk around afterwards looking sad, but even when named characters die, they have so little development, there is no reason to care about them.
Meanwhile, they build up characters to die, that you want to see die, or redeem themselves, and nothing comes of it at all.
Let's also mention the schtick and slapstick. I know this is meant for a younger audience, but come on, you don't need to break any dramatic moment with a pratfall.
AND ENOUGH OF THE WINKS! If you groaned at Legolas looking at a picture of Gimli and all but winking at the audience, just you wait until you find out what he's up to at the end of the movie.
Frikkin Legolas is slightly nerfed from the last movie, but still must have hit his head sometime before Fellowship, because pointy dude's a damn Super Elf here.
In summation: It's a badly written low stakes movie presented as an epic. As the final entry in a series where the first 3 made me a massive fanboy, this movie delivered the coup de grace and finished off any love I had for the cinematic universe. Do not spend money on this movie even for the spectacle, just wait til it's on Netflix and hopefully has been edited down to one movie for time. I'm right there with you. {Spoiler}{Spoiler}Visually the movie is great, the fighting is fun to watch but man there is such a build up of terrible nuances to this film that add up and just drive you crazy if you're that kind of person. The way in which Legolas gets around from place to place drives me up the wall. Okay so you grab the feet of a large bat that had intentions to kill you (although all they ended up doing was irritate everyone for a few seconds) and it conveniently flies you to where you want to go. Alright now you're climbing up falling debris...alright now you're killing an ogre to knock him into a tower to make a bridge and you're doing this all on purpose...Holy shit.
The amount of "nearfalls" in this whole trilogy is exhausting. I can't imagine having to be the composer for the film score on this, you can almost hear the music losing patience with the "ohhh this orc's gonna kill this guy...wait for it......wait for it...Gandalf's back to save him!" They cry wolf so many times that by the time they actually end up killing people off you just end up being happy that they did it at least once to justify the yo-yo act they've relentlessly insist upon.
If nothing else I thought it was kind of cool that the movie is pretty much a really long drawn out battle. The build up scenes of Thorin's greed leading the parties involved to war was a pretty well done. It's just too rough around the edges to meet its potential.
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Post by kevin on Dec 28, 2014 11:39:24 GMT -5
Finally saw the last hobbit movie all three films are good but they could have cut a lot out and made two amazing movies.
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Post by Kevin Hamilton on Dec 28, 2014 11:45:27 GMT -5
I will say my biggest problem with the Hobbit films is just how artificial they looked. Rings trilogy had the massive crowd scenes etc, but MOST of the time at least the FX was "realistic" looking enough that you could suspend disbelief and be in awe at the massive armies etc. So much of the Hobbit looked like a video game.
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Post by adamclark52 on Dec 28, 2014 12:26:00 GMT -5
I will say my biggest problem with the Hobbit films is just how artificial they looked. Rings trilogy had the massive crowd scenes etc, but MOST of the time at least the FX was "realistic" looking enough that you could suspend disbelief and be in awe at the massive armies etc. So much of the Hobbit looked like a video game. I wouldn't say it was my biggest problem but it was certainly a big problem.
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Post by crabbymelt on Dec 28, 2014 16:14:27 GMT -5
I'm not sure which character I wanted flattened more- the coward, or Turiel.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 29, 2014 9:45:00 GMT -5
I think Billy Connolly riding in on an actual Large Ham has to be one of the funniest visual puns I've ever seen.
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Post by Ryback on a Pole! on Dec 29, 2014 13:00:12 GMT -5
I'm not sure which character I wanted flattened more- the coward, or Turiel. Yeah, I couldn't stand Turiel. She was extremely annoying, I felt pleased when it seemed she was going to die. But alas, she didn't.
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Post by YAKMAN is ICHIBAN on Dec 29, 2014 13:39:46 GMT -5
I think Billy Connolly riding in on an actual Large Ham has to be one of the funniest visual puns I've ever seen. CG Billy Connolly anyway. I'm pretty sure he was CG'd the entire time due to his Parkinsons.
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Post by Display Name on Dec 29, 2014 20:01:52 GMT -5
So, my girl and I weren't the only ones that laughed out loud at how bad the CGI looked when Legolas went f***in' Super Mario on those falling bricks,right?
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Post by Burst on Dec 29, 2014 20:31:41 GMT -5
I don't get how the CGI was so much shoddier this time around when it's like ten years or so after the original LotR. Budget Cutter to the max, I guess.
My biggest grip with this entire series was sooooooo mmuuuuuuuuuuch padddddiing. This series had more padding than a Pampers warehouse and there were times when it was so obvious that they were stalling for time. The freakout sequence with Thorin drowning in a molten gold music video cliche was pretty much the cinematic equivalent of "Another resthold, Randy?".
I wanted to like it more and there were enough times when I fanboy'd out to keep me happy, but they could've even cut it to two and cut out all the cute "look at how we're referencing Lord of the Rings" fanwank and it would've been so much better.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 29, 2014 21:20:45 GMT -5
I don't get how the CGI was so much shoddier this time around when it's like ten years or so after the original LotR. Budget Cutter to the max, I guess. The thing is in LotR the CGI was used primarily to supplement the use of practical effects. There were very few fully-CGI shots in LotR, while in The Hobbit the CGI pretty much replaced 90% of the practical effects, and the difference is noticeable.
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 30, 2014 9:22:46 GMT -5
I don't get how the CGI was so much shoddier this time around when it's like ten years or so after the original LotR. Budget Cutter to the max, I guess. My biggest grip with this entire series was sooooooo mmuuuuuuuuuuch padddddiing. This series had more padding than a Pampers warehouse and there were times when it was so obvious that they were stalling for time. The freakout sequence with Thorin drowning in a molten gold music video cliche was pretty much the cinematic equivalent of "Another resthold, Randy?". I wanted to like it more and there were enough times when I fanboy'd out to keep me happy, but they could've even cut it to two and cut out all the cute "look at how we're referencing Lord of the Rings" fanwank and it would've been so much better. Yeah there were parts I loved in all three movies, but especially with the last two, there was too much where I'm going "get on with it already" And all the stupid love angles that added nothing.
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