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Post by Just call me D.j.m. on Nov 20, 2014 22:03:56 GMT -5
Nah, too many plain janes on the indies. I'm not even a Nikki fan but she blows them all out of the water. Some people that are ignorant to the indies would probably agree with you. The same way people that are ignorant to the indies would agree with the OP.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 22:35:48 GMT -5
I'm not sure how much female indy wrestling you watch, but she honestly isn't much better or worse than many of the female indy stars of today. I haven't seen much women's indy stuff in a while, but the Bellas perpetually sound like they're reading from cue cards. Like even by WWE's standards they're pretty low on the list, higher than Eva Marie (who isn't?) but lower than, say, Cameron. So if most of the Shimmer roster are on that level then that's pretty sad. Granted, promos don't matter as much on the indies as wrestling does, but even then I'd say the Bellas wouldn't stand out. They're okay by Divas standards, not as bad as they used to be, but not that great either. That's really about the most you could say without getting into hyperbole, I think.
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Post by gr1990 on Nov 20, 2014 22:39:44 GMT -5
I'm impressed at how quickly she seems to have found her feet all of a sudden, but if Brie and Nikki's match from Hell in a Cell happened on a Shimmer show, people would have forgotten it by the end of the night, and that's easily her best showing so far. A competently-wrestled, botch-free women's match that tells a story rather than just being 'there' is considered an achievement in WWE, and that's all it was. I enjoyed the match, but that's how low the bar has been set thanks to the horrors of the Johnny Ace era. Heck, if it happened in NXT it wouldn't be among the best 5 women's matches Full Sail has played host to this year.
She's just moved from 'lousy' to 'competent' in the past year after sucking and not seeming to get wrestling at all for five years beforehand. She still might be outside of the top 10 female wrestlers currently employed by WWE, and probably outside of the top 40 in North America, even before taking Japan and Europe into account. She could be a Shimmer midcarder now, but nothing more, and it's taken her over half a decade in the biggest wrestling company on Earth to get there.
Consider also that thanks to never working outside of the WWE system she's probably never wrestled a match longer than 10 minutes in her entire career, so main eventing a show would really be a struggle for her.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 20, 2014 23:25:43 GMT -5
I don't think she's the best Bella on the roster so probably not?
Not saying the OP is doing this, but people here always confuse "hottest" with "most talented"
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Post by giraffe4hire on Nov 20, 2014 23:30:25 GMT -5
Ask Velvet Sky.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2014 23:32:29 GMT -5
True or False: If you put Nikki Bella in undies they will shrink.
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Post by kidglov3s on Nov 20, 2014 23:35:48 GMT -5
So now is this Nikki Bella off the streets? Or is this Nikki Bella after years of WWE grooming with all the things that go along with that?
With the story of how they demanded to go on the main roster why would anyone think that either Bella would ever have an interest in da indies?
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Post by Hit Girl on Nov 21, 2014 0:46:27 GMT -5
She's barely the best wrestler in the Bella family.
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Post by Xxcjb01xX [PIECE OF: SH-] on Nov 21, 2014 1:34:37 GMT -5
She's barely the best wrestler in the Bella family. I don't know about that, I think Brother Bella edges her.
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Post by Non Banjoble Tokens on Nov 21, 2014 2:35:05 GMT -5
True or False: If you put Nikki Bella in undies they will shrink. As long as she puts them in the right hamper, John Cena doesn't care.
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Post by Steveweiser on Nov 21, 2014 2:57:05 GMT -5
The lower card of SHIMMER would smoke her and expose her flaws.
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Post by Bungle on Nov 21, 2014 3:05:17 GMT -5
Not like every indie woman is a technical super charismatic wrestler.
I say basically every diva (Natalya,AJ,Paige,Alicia,Emma,The Bellas...)can go and have no problems both in entertainment and in ring talent.
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Post by Lance Uppercut on Nov 21, 2014 3:05:26 GMT -5
She's fine. Actually, a lot of WWE divas are fine. People complain about the bar being so low that we're impressed by them. I think Fans of Independent and Japanese women's wrestling have the bar set too high. I mean we got people like the Beautiful people and 90% of the TNA Knockouts out there, and I find the Divas more interesting and better wrestlers than them.
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Post by Old Jack Burton on Nov 21, 2014 4:24:27 GMT -5
Nikki would hold her own against the SHIMMER roster as is, and I would expect within a very short time she'd expand her move set and be almost as good as the rest barring some of the top tier talent like Cheerleader Melissa, Mia Yim, and Hamada.
If you compare her to your average county fair wrasslers she'd blow them out of the water.
Overall she wouldn't embarrass herself, and I think the same could be said for a lot of other women in the Divas division. Alicia Fox, Layla, and Kaitlyn would have been fine in a SHIMMER ring. Also remember Natalya and Beth Phoenix came from there.
If you want to see some strange matches with former WWE Divas you can look up several indie matches with Mickie James or Melina wrestling all your favorites. There's a Melina vs Velvet Sky match on youtube, a Mickie James vs Cheerleader Melissa match...
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Post by Welfare Willis on Nov 21, 2014 7:37:58 GMT -5
She would be head and shoulders above the majority of the gal grapplers in the respective locker rooms. We know it's you Nikki. P.S. We appreciate your booty shorts.
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Post by Captain2 on Nov 21, 2014 8:59:49 GMT -5
Not saying the OP is doing this, but people here always confuse "hottest" with "most talented" Psh. That's just silly. Side note though, Maryse is the Shawn Michaels of the Diva's division.
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Post by ________ has left the building on Nov 21, 2014 9:34:02 GMT -5
Actually a number of Divas would fit in Shimmer and not miss a step. And I'm not talking about folks like Paige and Emma. A number of the Divas are much better workers than we give them credit for. Michelle McCool in her prime could go toe to toe with the best but never got that respect because who she was f***ing and her WWE booking. And a number of indy women get exposed as not good as their hype when they finally wrestle on tv.
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Post by Woo on Nov 21, 2014 13:13:15 GMT -5
Of course she wouldn't be a star in Shimmer. Let's look at the last Shimmer tapings and list the girls roughly in order of how good they are.
1. Madison Eagles 2. Kana 3. Cheerleader Melissa 4. Nicole Mathews 5. Athena 6. Tomoka Nakagawa 7. Lufisto 8. Evie 9. Mia Yim 10. Kellie Skater 11. Candice LeRae 12. Kay Lee Ray 13. Nikki Storm 14. AKINO 15. Tsukasa Fujimoto 16. Kimber Lee 17. Mayumi Ozaki 18. Kaori Yoneyama 19. Courney Rush 20. Cherry Bomb 21. Saraya Knight 22. Portia Perez 23. Heidi Lovelace 24. Alysin Kay 25. Nicole Savoy 26. Rhia O'Riley 27. Jenny Rose 28. Veda Scott 29. Jessica Havok 30. Crazy Mary Dobson 31. Vanessa Kraven 32. Leva Bates 33. Sassy Stephie 34. Nevaeh 35. Marti Belle 36. Solo Darling 37. Thunderkitty 38. Ms Natural 39. Xander Bale 40. KC Cassidy 41. Bambi Hall
Nikki Bella wouldn't be any higher than about 36th on that list. And half of the women their can talk better than she can. A third of them are more attractive so what does she bring to the table? Then you have to include women who missed the last set of tapings- Hikuru Shida, Mercedes Martinez, Hiroyo Matsumoto, Yumi Ohka, Christina Von Eerie, Melanie Cruise etc. Nikki Bella wouldn't be good enough for Shimmer. Shine possibly, but even that is a stretch.
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Post by Bungle on Nov 21, 2014 13:45:02 GMT -5
Of course she wouldn't be a star in Shimmer. Let's look at the last Shimmer tapings and list the girls roughly in order of how good they are... The other way around is true. Put any of these girls in the Divas Division,in RAW,in a random 4 minute (in a good day) match,with no build behind and they get exposed. On that list only 5 or 6 names are indiscutible great.Not more.
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Post by Long A, Short A on Nov 21, 2014 16:17:34 GMT -5
I don't think she's the best Bella on the roster so probably not? Not saying the OP is doing this, but people here always confuse "hottest" with "most talented" I've seen that go down a lot around here myself.
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