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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Nov 21, 2014 23:45:34 GMT -5
I'm not even that keen on her as an interviewer. What's wrong with her as an interviewer? |
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Post by gr1990 on Nov 22, 2014 2:01:54 GMT -5
No one who's never been a wrestler should ever be in a colour commentary role (and no one who's wrestling career is limited to five years on the WWE undercard/developmental like Riley or Saxton). They always end up offering little to no insight and generally are irritating and superfluous. That said, I doubt she'd be able to do play-by-play all that well either since she doesn't seem to know the name of any moves. She's a fantastic interviewer and seems like a cool lady in real life, and in theory I'm all in favour of a female presence at the announce table, but if Renee ends up on Raw it will seem like tokenism rather than her deserving it on merit. Plus she's she's hardly advancing the role of women in the company anyway with her constant 'all girls secretly hate each other'/'it's different for girls' bollocks that isn't too different to what Jerry Lawler would come out with.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 2:44:18 GMT -5
No one who's never been a wrestler should ever be in a colour commentary role (and no one who's wrestling career is limited to five years on the WWE undercard like Riley). They always end up offering little to no insight and generally are irritating and superfluous. I think Jim Ross, Mike Tenay, Paul Heyman and Bobby Heenan would all disagree at the very least. |
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Post by gr1990 on Nov 22, 2014 2:54:58 GMT -5
No one who's never been a wrestler should ever be in a colour commentary role (and no one who's wrestling career is limited to five years on the WWE undercard like Riley). They always end up offering little to no insight and generally are irritating and superfluous. I think Jim Ross, Mike Tenay, Paul Heyman and Bobby Heenan would all disagree at the very least. True, I should probably include ex-managers and promoters/bookers in there too. I was more thinking of stuff like Michael Cole being colour guy on Main Event recently, just awful. Tenay and JR are a million times better play-by-play guys than colour though. |
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Post by Abdullah on Nov 22, 2014 5:29:41 GMT -5
Keep her backstage so she can interview Sami more. <3
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 10:45:31 GMT -5
I like her on commentary mostly because of how enthusiastic she is, but that's certainly not where her strengths lie. She's much better as an interviewer or a host.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 14:43:07 GMT -5
If f***ing wrestlers was all it took to be considered good Missy Hyatt would be in the HOF and Melina would still have a job. ... Although, Tammy Sytch IS in the HOF and Rosa Mendes is still employed so what do I know. To be fair, Missy Hyatt probably should be in the HOF. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 14:46:09 GMT -5
No one who's never been a wrestler should ever be in a colour commentary role (and no one who's wrestling career is limited to five years on the WWE undercard like Riley). They always end up offering little to no insight and generally are irritating and superfluous. I think Jim Ross, Mike Tenay, Paul Heyman and Bobby Heenan would all disagree at the very least. None of those guys were acknowledged as being on commentary for their in ring experience like Riley and the others are though. I very much support the Road Dogg suggestion for commentator. He'd be awesome. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2014 16:53:50 GMT -5
I've said this before, but WWE really has no commentator that can mark out and get excited like JR, young Michael Cole (although once in awhile he can still do it), or Gorilla Monsoon. Tom Phillips, Renee Young, William Regal, guys like those are very good play-by-play commentators, but they're more like the kinds of people you'd see calling some sort of sporting event. They know what to say and come off as informed on the product, but I personally don't think they have the voices to go JR and go crazy for an epic return or add character to their role (this is what made JR awesome, since he was able to do both). If you have someone like Renee Young on commentary, you need a loud and charismatic color commentator with her to counteract her mellow, play-by-play style. The problem is, WWE puts people like her and Tom Phillips in the booth at the same time, when they're basically the same kind of commentator. It doesn't work. JR was great, but he needed a dumb, stupid, and obnoxious heel to counter act his informed and just style, and that heel was Jerry "The King" Lawler. Likewise, Michael Cole worked well with guys like Tazz and JBL (King could work if he was a heel). To be straight up, there is no chance in hell Renee Young could go crazy for, say, a surprise entrant in the Royal Rumble. She just doesn't have the voice for that. She could probably call matches well, but she needs to be paired with someone that can go crazy when commentary needs to. I'd say let someone like Road Dogg in the booth (wish he called a match with Josh Mathews once). He has a good voice, and I think he could mark out well if given some tips on how to do so. Anyways, the point is, WWE needs to put commentators in the booth that match each other not by being the same, but by being different enough to where they play off each other. It's almost becoming a lost art and I'm not even sure it's WWE's prerogative to actually use commentary to enhance anything. I'm honestly uncertain what WWE's objective is with commentary anymore. They seem to actively seek out rather indistinguishable dorks (for lack of a better word) that carry the same resonance as morning FM radio. Their commentary teams are so often preoccupied with plucky "cute" ribbing and jockularity that it feels like we've gone far deeper than (Joey Styles impression) "telling stories." It seems like we never get any real passion from WWE commentary until they hit that critical moment that requires them to do business. To me it comes off as an extension of WWE's current idea of trying to be pro wrestling without really telling us it's pro wrestling, commentators can't get too attached because come on, it's wrestling. There's evidence that exists that Michael Cole, JBL and Lawler are very good commentators, but just like morning radio, their jobs have become "making it fun" which involves fake laughter, safe humor, and of course, advertising and it's just so stiff and forced that there's zero authenticity. It's hard for me to get on Renee's case or any specific person too much because I think it goes beyond performance ability where their current play-by-play philosophy stifles even the best commentators right now. NXT commentary is particularly dreadful, but there's a part of me that feels that they're carrying out barking orders to the detail. |
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Post by khali on Nov 22, 2014 19:30:11 GMT -5
All of the NXT announcing is awful.
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Post by rand0mzer0 on Nov 22, 2014 20:31:47 GMT -5
I thought it was just me in noticing how bad she was on this past week's episode of NXT. Good to know.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Nov 22, 2014 20:50:50 GMT -5
How bad is that backstage interviewer though?
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Post by carp (SPC, Itoh Respect Army) on Nov 23, 2014 2:25:56 GMT -5
The weird thing for me is why all the NXT announcers appear to hate one another. They're always calling each other ugly and insulting each other and telling each other that they don't know what's going on. More than anything else, that makes them all seem really unpleasant.
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Post by trollrogue on Nov 23, 2014 10:49:42 GMT -5
Renee...something something...too hot to fire...something something...hot girls are immune to criticism...*blind support*
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