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Post by mysterydriver on Dec 14, 2014 23:17:25 GMT -5
They protected John Cena because he was going to win with help.
That's so crazy to me. They have Cena plainly 'beat' Rollins, clear as day. Seemingly to set up him losing later and being wronged...but, in actuality, it's because when he gets ambushed later by the Stair Master, Big Show, Roman Reigns is coming to his rescue and helping to set-up the win.
John Cena got help to win...but don't worry...he could've done it all by himself.
I don't know. That just seemed weird to me, so I'm sharing.
Maybe it's because of that Edge/Jericho interview where they discussed how he pushed hard for the "I come back and eliminate the rest of Nexus after getting DDT'd on freaking concrete" spot, but it seemed like something that he would have added in simply for himself.
*Shrug*
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Post by Mayonnaise on Dec 14, 2014 23:20:48 GMT -5
Unless there is a Cena/Reigns "You only won because I saved you" match/feud upcoming nothing in it made sense.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 14, 2014 23:21:27 GMT -5
Part of me thinks that Reigns was politicking himself into the match simply so Cena wouldn't look that ridiculous. Cena embarrassed Rollins, his security team and he would have embarrassed Show too had Reigns not showed up. Cena rarely gets outsmarted by the heel 2x in a row. Had this happened? Nah son, Cena would have gotten Show. Thank god Reigns showed up when he did.
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Post by SenorCrest on Dec 14, 2014 23:26:30 GMT -5
It made no sense. Cena should have been speared by Reigns. Cena loosing will open up a spot for the title at Royal Rumble, why the hell wouldn't Reigns want that spot? f***ing millennial
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 9:38:15 GMT -5
It was as bad as the Wyatt/Cena cage match. Except this time, Cena actually won, instead of taking the most protected loss of all-time.
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Post by N E O G E O B O Y S on Dec 15, 2014 9:50:59 GMT -5
Honestly, this is the first time that a match has made me say that I'm done for a while, I thought that all those shenanigans where to protect cena losing, but in the end it was only to make him look more strong. You include Reigns and I feel like this raw will suck, I will wait some weeks before he rumble if something cool
I don' even want to watch NXT
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Post by kingoftheindies on Dec 15, 2014 11:16:00 GMT -5
I think they over thought everything. It's like they wanted to protect people but instead of coming up with one idea they did 4 and it came off bad
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 15, 2014 11:17:45 GMT -5
They didn't want Cena to look weak, but they didn't want Rollins to look weak either, so that's what we ended up with.
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Post by walterharrow on Dec 15, 2014 11:20:00 GMT -5
It reminded me of Cena's match with Ziggler where Ziggler had help from Vickie, his MITB briefcase, AJ got involved as well and yet Cena still won
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Post by bmfjules on Dec 15, 2014 11:21:17 GMT -5
When Reigns and Cena finally have to face each other they will both have to pin each other 12 times with 12 separate ref bumps until the finish is finally the entire roster coming out to feed into both of their finishers for the DQ draw...
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Post by Deleted on Dec 15, 2014 11:26:25 GMT -5
They didn't want Cena to look weak, but they didn't want Rollins to look weak either, so that's what we ended up with. Rollins looked SUPER weak. Even with constant interference, he was never able to put Cena through a table. Meanwhile, Cena fought through the interference and had it won clean, before Reigns was even in the picture. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 15, 2014 12:21:52 GMT -5
Maybe I'm missing something but to me, it made sense that Roman ran out. He still hates Rollins, doesn't he? So, he had no problem screwing him out of a match. Not like he would have been guaranteed the title shot if Cena lost and the Rumble is right around the corner so it makes sense for him to think that he can get a shot by winning that.
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Post by Sumbody Gon' Get Dey Kneelift on Dec 15, 2014 12:39:08 GMT -5
Think of the pop Reigns would've gotten if he'd killed Show, then helped Rollins put Cena through a table, then put Rollins through a table, taken a mic and said "I want Brock."
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Post by riseofsetian1981 on Dec 15, 2014 12:46:19 GMT -5
Pretty much this just confirms what Punk stated in the podcast regarding the booking of Cena? God forbid, but what would happen if Cena suffered a career ending injury?
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 15, 2014 13:44:39 GMT -5
Meh. Seth has looked incredibly strong since splitting from the Shield. One dodgy loss to wrestling's biggest star and actual Superman won't do him any harm. He's at least hanging with the big boys which is the main thing for now
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Post by The Portable Stove on Dec 15, 2014 14:43:17 GMT -5
They didn't want Cena to look weak, but they didn't want Rollins to look weak either, so that's what we ended up with. Rollins looked SUPER weak. Even with constant interference, he was never able to put Cena through a table. Meanwhile, Cena fought through the interference and had it won clean, before Reigns was even in the picture. I finally realized what the problem was with how Rollins looked. That moment where Cena's laying on the table and it looks like he's going to curb stomp him through and he has to fight to get to the rope. If Cena would've moved at the last second and Rollins stomped through the table (as stupid as a spot that sounds), then I would've been able to buy that hey, Rollins was actually going to win. Even at the two triple powerbombs, with Cena clumsily punching out of it, I never got the impression that Rollins could win, or that he was even in Cena's league. Consider this. When they were building Triple H in 98/99/00, he'd wrestle most of his matches. He'd go ahead and go against the Rock for ten, fifteen minutes and THEN Shane and Vince and the Stooges would run interference for him. Noble and Mercury were in the ENTIRE TIME against Cena, and Rollins lost three times regardless of the fact. If it would've been competitive followed by the SuperCena nonsense, then it would've sucked, but Rollins would've looked somewhat decent. |
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Post by FAR5222 on Dec 15, 2014 14:52:18 GMT -5
Maybe I'm missing something but to me, it made sense that Roman ran out. He still hates Rollins, doesn't he? So, he had no problem screwing him out of a match. Not like he would have been guaranteed the title shot if Cena lost and the Rumble is right around the corner so it makes sense for him to think that he can get a shot by winning that. But logically he beat Rollins clean already before the injury. So why does he need to screw him in a match? Where if Cena loses anybody on the roster can get a title shot. It just goes back to the babyfaces being dumb. |
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Post by Mid-Carder on Dec 15, 2014 15:02:39 GMT -5
Maybe I'm missing something but to me, it made sense that Roman ran out. He still hates Rollins, doesn't he? So, he had no problem screwing him out of a match. Not like he would have been guaranteed the title shot if Cena lost and the Rumble is right around the corner so it makes sense for him to think that he can get a shot by winning that. But logically he beat Rollins clean already before the injury. So why does he need to screw him in a match? Where if Cena loses anybody on the roster can get a title shot. It just goes back to the babyfaces being dumb. I took it as Roman just doing the right thing, with a little nod to his and Seth's history Oh and by the way- Super Cena needed help to beat Seth Rollins. That's what I'm taking from this. |
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Post by The Portable Stove on Dec 15, 2014 15:14:58 GMT -5
But logically he beat Rollins clean already before the injury. So why does he need to screw him in a match? Where if Cena loses anybody on the roster can get a title shot. It just goes back to the babyfaces being dumb. I took it as Roman just doing the right thing, with a little nod to his and Seth's history Oh and by the way- Super Cena needed help to beat Seth Rollins. That's what I'm taking from this. Trying to remember, did Show even do anything outside of strolling menacingly to the ring? The only thing I can remember from Big Show coming out is that it led to Reigns showing up. |
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 15, 2014 15:17:21 GMT -5
But logically he beat Rollins clean already before the injury. So why does he need to screw him in a match? Where if Cena loses anybody on the roster can get a title shot. It just goes back to the babyfaces being dumb. I took it as Roman just doing the right thing, with a little nod to his and Seth's history Oh and by the way- Super Cena needed help to beat Seth Rollins. That's what I'm taking from this. Ultimately he did, but the complaint is that WWE felt the need to do the false finish to show that Cena didn't really need help. |
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