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Post by chazraps on Dec 16, 2014 17:43:05 GMT -5
It's much more insulting and stupid that they're doing a 'happy go lucky black church' gimmick. What's funny to me is that people want to complain about the "black church" gimmick being offensively stereotypical, but if Johnny Curtis, Zack Ryder and Ryback did the exact same gimmick, everyone would cry "culture jacking". Wouldn't that be more of a southern baptist preacherman gimmick anyway? |
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Post by Boo! on Dec 16, 2014 17:44:07 GMT -5
If it was a gimmick that intentionally wasn't supposed to work, I'd get it. I could just imagine Monsoon and Heenan
Heenan: These guys a are fun Monsoon
Monsoon: I find them obnoxious
Heenan: What's wrong with having fun?
Monsoon: Nothing Brain, but I don't believe these guys are really fun, think they're sinister
Heenan: They're whose sisters?
Monsoon: Will you stop!
That'd I'd get. But for them to actually be a face team that the crowd are supposed to support? I'm honestly dumbfounded at the idea there's anyone who thought that concept would work. Irritatingly up-beat heels all day long, surely?
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 16, 2014 17:44:38 GMT -5
What's funny to me is that people want to complain about the "black church" gimmick being offensively stereotypical, but if Johnny Curtis, Zack Ryder and Ryback did the exact same gimmick, everyone would cry "culture jacking". Wouldn't that be more of a southern baptist preacherman gimmick anyway? I meant it as in if three white wrestlers did those same vignettes word for word, action for action, complete with clapping choir. |
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Post by chazraps on Dec 16, 2014 17:49:06 GMT -5
Wouldn't that be more of a southern baptist preacherman gimmick anyway? I meant it as in if three white wrestlers did those same vignettes word for word, action for action, complete with clapping choir. So...Brother Love? |
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Post by Texas Tornado on Dec 16, 2014 17:50:04 GMT -5
It's much more insulting and stupid that they're doing a 'happy go lucky black church' gimmick. What's funny to me is that people want to complain about the "black church" gimmick being offensively stereotypical, but if Johnny Curtis, Zack Ryder and Ryback did the exact same gimmick, everyone would cry "culture jacking". I mean, in both cases the gimmick is offensive and dumb, so...I don't really see what the point is here. |
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Post by xxshoyuweeniexx on Dec 16, 2014 18:04:58 GMT -5
No duh New Day sucks, it's lame as shit. It's like it's trying to be Men on a Mission for 2014...but like, nobody wants to hear that shit right now because of obvious reason I'm not gonna get into. It's dorky and lame.
Also, happy singing clapping dancing black guys talking about being positive while obnoxious commentators talk about how fun they are like the equilent of your parents trying to talk about twerking? Of course that'd get over like a lead fart in church.
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Post by Fauxnaki on Dec 16, 2014 18:28:18 GMT -5
wow people are already talking about race. its shitty gimmick thats it.
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 16, 2014 18:34:04 GMT -5
I don't want them to turn heel. I want them to be happy go lucky for ever. I wish fans would be smart enough to cheer the stupid act to force them to stay with it. I've had enough ass kickers. I wan't a happy go lucky team for a good 4 or 5 years.
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Post by Lila on Dec 16, 2014 18:47:05 GMT -5
The ferguson/ protest crap going on.  |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 19:04:54 GMT -5
I don't want them to turn heel. I want them to be happy go lucky for ever. I wish fans would be smart enough to cheer the stupid act to force them to stay with it. I've had enough ass kickers. I wan't a happy go lucky team for a good 4 or 5 years. Yeah, but this isn't 1979 in the territory days. I don't want all my good guys being butt kickers, but the idea of a trio of wrestlers who always smile and talk happy things would be annoying quickly. This could work as heels with them never actually doing anything nefarious, but when you're supposed to CHEER for them, the thought process is "Why should I?" |
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Post by Milkman Norm on Dec 16, 2014 19:10:00 GMT -5
I don't want them to turn heel. I want them to be happy go lucky for ever. I wish fans would be smart enough to cheer the stupid act to force them to stay with it. I've had enough ass kickers. I wan't a happy go lucky team for a good 4 or 5 years. Yeah, but this isn't 1979 in the territory days. I don't want all my good guys being butt kickers, but the idea of a trio of wrestlers who always smile and talk happy things would be annoying quickly. This could work as heels with them never actually doing anything nefarious, but when you're supposed to CHEER for them, the thought process is "Why should I?" Because they're happy and what's wrong with cheering happy? What's wrong with cheering babyfaces who aren't "edgy" |
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Post by BrianZane on Dec 16, 2014 19:20:20 GMT -5
I think it would be awesome if it turns out they're actually a cult. I mean, they're already dressed like members of the Epsilon Program.
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 16, 2014 19:22:47 GMT -5
I don't want them to turn heel. I want them to be happy go lucky for ever. I wish fans would be smart enough to cheer the stupid act to force them to stay with it. I've had enough ass kickers. I wan't a happy go lucky team for a good 4 or 5 years. Yeah, but this isn't 1979 in the territory days. I don't want all my good guys being butt kickers, but the idea of a trio of wrestlers who always smile and talk happy things would be annoying quickly. This could work as heels with them never actually doing anything nefarious, but when you're supposed to CHEER for them, the thought process is "Why should I?" But if they're heels who don't do anything heelish, you'd have the same thought process for "why should I boo them?" |
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Post by percymania on Dec 16, 2014 20:18:55 GMT -5
It's true, the New Day sucks. If they're not getting over in Detroit, they're not getting over anywhere. These guys are so much better than this. Just turn them heel already.
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Post by Crimson on Dec 16, 2014 20:20:26 GMT -5
Racist Crowd Confirmed
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Post by Deleted on Dec 16, 2014 22:30:21 GMT -5
I personally put my vote to, "Make Kofi and Big E a vicious heel team and launch Xavier into the sun or something." Preferably without bringing the race thing into it at all - New Day's terrible but so is the New Nation idea.
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Post by berlynwright on Dec 16, 2014 22:39:27 GMT -5
it would work if they didn't include Woods. He has no flashy moves, no charisma, no star looks. He's just a guy and huge drop for Kofi, who can really be their star guy if pushed right.
Kofi has great voice and can cut OK to good promos.
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Post by chazraps on Dec 16, 2014 22:40:41 GMT -5
it would work if they didn't include Woods. He has no flashy moves, no charisma, no star looks. He's just a guy and huge drop for Kofi, who can really be their star guy if pushed right. Kofi has great voice and can cut OK to good promos. Did you see on Monday that they made Kofi a f***ing slam poet? |
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Post by gonzalez on Dec 16, 2014 23:28:11 GMT -5
it would work if they didn't include Woods. He has no flashy moves, no charisma, no star looks. He's just a guy and huge drop for Kofi, who can really be their star guy if pushed right. Proved you wrong tonight. For the first time since they debuted The New Day finally had a good performence, and it wasn't a team with Big E in it. It was Kofi & Xavier, and they tore the roof off. |
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Post by Magic knows Black Lives Matter on Dec 16, 2014 23:30:22 GMT -5
it would work if they didn't include Woods. He has no flashy moves, no charisma, no star looks. He's just a guy and huge drop for Kofi, who can really be their star guy if pushed right. Kofi has great voice and can cut OK to good promos. Did you see on Monday that they made Kofi a f***ing slam poet? But he's got bars, tho. |
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