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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 17, 2014 19:01:32 GMT -5
Wow, I'd heard about this game but hadn't actually seen the trailer til now, and yeah, that looks like shit. Like Postal or GTA without any of the humor. I don't think the creator is a neo-Nazi but I do think he's shown some really, really questionable judgment. Liking a Polish anti-Islam group on Facebook doesn't exactly paint the best picture of the guy, especially when you tie it in with the game's usage of the phrase "genocide crusade." Nah you see, he liked the Anti-Islam group so that he could get the real news about what was happening in the middle east.
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Post by Glitch on Dec 17, 2014 19:05:03 GMT -5
I guess the 14 year olds who got grounded now have their hero to rally around.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 18, 2014 11:50:44 GMT -5
I care much more about Valve being "discriminatory" towards EA games that are newer than Mass Effect 2. Unless Origin isn't a buggy mess of code anymore. I can't speak for everyone but I haven't had a problem with Origin. But I use Steam more than Origin so... I may not be the best person to ask
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Post by Cyno on Dec 18, 2014 14:01:54 GMT -5
I just want Dragon Age Inquisition, but I'm skeptical about buying it on PC because A. Origin and B. Unsure if specs are going to be able to play the game at the graphical quality I want.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Dec 18, 2014 20:15:59 GMT -5
How come no one is ever Neon Nazis? They'd still be despicable, but they'd at least be festive colors. Weren't they a gang in a Schumacher Batman film?
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 18, 2014 20:18:02 GMT -5
How come no one is ever Neon Nazis? They'd still be despicable, but they'd at least be festive colors. Weren't they a gang in a Schumacher Batman film? I don't think the blacklight gang were Nazis, but I did like them. They also appeared in both Schumacher films, but I had forgotten for a long time that Ivy sort of takes over their base of operations with Bane in a brief scene.
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Dec 18, 2014 20:20:37 GMT -5
Weren't they a gang in a Schumacher Batman film? I don't think the blacklight gang were Nazis, but I did like them. They also appeared in both Schumacher films, but I had forgotten for a long time that Ivy sort of takes over their base of operations with Bane in a brief scene. Joke...
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Post by Mozenrath on Dec 18, 2014 20:22:41 GMT -5
I don't think the blacklight gang were Nazis, but I did like them. They also appeared in both Schumacher films, but I had forgotten for a long time that Ivy sort of takes over their base of operations with Bane in a brief scene. Joke... Ah, okay. Eh, I've got a headache, I have no subtlety detection in place right now.
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Post by El Cokehead del Knife Fight on Dec 18, 2014 22:29:42 GMT -5
I care much more about Valve being "discriminatory" towards EA games that are newer than Mass Effect 2. Unless Origin isn't a buggy mess of code anymore. Origin allows EA to release games without giving Valve their cut, Valve had nothing to do with them leaving. It works fine but EA are pretty bad at sales and there really isn't much on there outside of EA games. Now if you want a horrible buggy mess than just look at Uplay.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 18, 2014 23:10:43 GMT -5
I care much more about Valve being "discriminatory" towards EA games that are newer than Mass Effect 2. Unless Origin isn't a buggy mess of code anymore. Origin allows EA to release games without giving Valve their cut, Valve had nothing to do with them leaving. It works fine but EA are pretty bad at sales and there really isn't much on there outside of EA games. Now if you want a horrible buggy mess than just look at Uplay. Thanks for bringing up terrible memories... when setting up my UPlay account I made a typo on the email... it took f***ing weeks to get that fixed... instead of minutes it would have taken on any other service....
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Post by AFN: Judge Shred on Dec 18, 2014 23:20:09 GMT -5
Origin allows EA to release games without giving Valve their cut, Valve had nothing to do with them leaving. It works fine but EA are pretty bad at sales and there really isn't much on there outside of EA games. Now if you want a horrible buggy mess than just look at Uplay. Thanks for bringing up terrible memories... when setting up my UPlay account I made a typo on the email... it took f***ing weeks to get that fixed... instead of minutes it would have taken on any other service.... The funny part is that for me, Uplay and Origin have been silky smooth and have never had a problem.
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Post by Alexander The So-so on Dec 19, 2014 2:11:31 GMT -5
I'll defend the right of this game to be distributed and played. But honestly, as far as I'm concerned, this game has no reason to exist.
Comparisons to other violent video games are disingenuous. The "No Russian" sequence in Modern Warfare 2 may have had disturbing content, but it had a point given its context; it presented a horrible ethical dilemma for the player character to need to take part in a terrorist massacre in order to maintain his cover and continue his mission.
Killing in the GTA games may be wonton, but there are two points about that: 1.). It's optional, and players don't have to do it if they don't want to, and can instead see the game for its broader points of exploration, crime drama, social satire, etc. And 2.) When it is done, it's done so in an unrealistic and impersonal way that while allowing for great violence, doesn't quite relish in it.
Hatred has neither of these points to defend it. It can't be taken out of context, like COD: the whole POINT of the game is to massacre innocent people. And unlike GTA's unrealistic and tongue-in-cheek approach, Hatred has the player's victims pleading for mercy as he kills them in a myriad range of detailed ways.
Again, people can play this game if they want. But this game just screams to me that it's trying to be something like the "A Serbian Film" of video games; it's being controversial for the sake of being controversial, getting all kinds of attention through no other value than how in bad taste it is, trying to pass it off with phony claims that it's making some sort of grand sociopolitical statement, and drawing a cult fan base mixed up of people interested in the morbid and people who tout the "the developers are right; this game is art!" line in an attempt to sound intellectually edgy.
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 19, 2014 6:22:54 GMT -5
Thanks for bringing up terrible memories... when setting up my UPlay account I made a typo on the email... it took f***ing weeks to get that fixed... instead of minutes it would have taken on any other service.... The funny part is that for me, Uplay and Origin have been silky smooth and have never had a problem. Never used Origin, but I've never had a single problem with Uplay either.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 18, 2015 17:06:29 GMT -5
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Jan 18, 2015 17:18:44 GMT -5
The funny part is that for me, Uplay and Origin have been silky smooth and have never had a problem. Never used Origin, but I've never had a single problem with Uplay either. Origin's been fine for me, but the few times I've had to use Uplay, it slows my computer down a shit-tonne until it's fully started up, which is annoying when you just want to quickly hop on a game.
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Post by Cyno on Jan 18, 2015 19:37:00 GMT -5
Does Steam have a "We don't sell AO rated games" policy? Not that I expected this game to be sold in a lot of mainstream retail stores anyway, but the AO rating is a kiss of death unless the devs tone it down to what would be considered appropriate for an M rating. Then again, this probably won't stop its intended audience from buying it, but it's otherwise, effectively, a soft ban in the US and Canada.
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Post by Capt Lunatic on Jan 19, 2015 3:16:01 GMT -5
Killing in the GTA games may be wonton Nah bro, the killing in GTA is totally Egg Roll.
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball☝🏻 on Jan 19, 2015 3:30:38 GMT -5
Pixels can not be killed. There's no violence in any video game.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 19, 2015 5:20:48 GMT -5
Child mentality:
They just made this thing huge by turning it into forbidden fruit, whereas it could've easily been released quietly and just died. Can it. It doesn't matter. It'll sweep through the Internet now. There's nothing people want more than things they're not supposed to have.
I get that it's an iffy if not completely indefensible premise for a game, but I'd play it. I'm not going to turn around and then murder people though. I would just laugh at the chance to don the mask of such a scumbag. If this got released and something ever happened though, the media would rabble rabble on this thing hard.
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Post by Square on Jan 19, 2015 9:09:26 GMT -5
Manhunt 2 is still sold on Steam with an AO rating. The game looks interesting, showing true reactions to the violence of video games instead of the cartoonish-esque we see in most other games.
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