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Post by Essential1 on Dec 19, 2014 15:47:04 GMT -5
I'm surprised to find out that they actually made appearances after Royal Rumble 94.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 19, 2014 17:26:52 GMT -5
You badmouthing the Quebecers? *tapes fists* They're handsome, they're brave, they're strong.
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Post by somsta on Dec 19, 2014 19:10:32 GMT -5
You badmouthing the Quebecers? *tapes fists* They're handsome, they're brave, they're strong. Hmm... But are they the Mounties?
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Post by somsta on Dec 19, 2014 19:14:12 GMT -5
Here's an interesting take on the previously mention Scotty/Flair Clash match from Lance Storm -
Ric Flair vs. Scott Steiner (World Title Match): This is one of the more interesting matches to discuss looking back. This was a time where WCW was looking for their new guy. Jim Herd had decided that Ric Flair was too old, and Scott Steiner was one of the candidates for the next guy. From what I've been told this was a bit of a "let's see if Scotty can hang on his own in a Main Event match". What makes it interesting is a side of the business fans seldom understand. A lot of people think because this sport is "predetermined" it isn't a competitive sport. This is of course completely incorrect. Think about this match, Ric has been told the office doesn't think he can hang at the top anymore and he is working a guy the office thinks might be his replacement. Both of these guys are competing for that top spot, which means they both have motives in this match beyond the agreed upon finish. They need to both work together, make each other look good, while also making sure they look good themselves because Steiner most likely wants that top spot, and Flair very adamantly doesn't want to give his spot up. Think about this for a second. If Flair does is job and makes his opponent look amazing (like he had guys far worse than Scotty for years) he may lose his spot and potentially his job. If Scotty just openly follows Ric's lead and Ric doesn't have Scott's best interests at heart, he could end up looking bad and be deemed not ready for the spot he's being considered for.
This is where the fun and speculation begins. Steiner has done interviews since, out right burying Ric for this match, claiming that Flair cut his legs out from under him. Ric has also commented on the match claiming he did no such thing, which leaves us to speculate. From my vantage point as a guy who has wrestled both of these guys, and seen a ton of their work, I think it's a little bit of both. I think the biggest problem was that they had very contradictory styles. Scotty had been getting over with a more physical style of match that involved some Steiner specific moves, like the Tilt-a-whirl Slam, The Tiger Driver, The Frankensteiner, etc. These moves were a big part of what fans liked about Scott Steiner, and Ric has the bumps he likes to take and is used to running a match his way. Whenever the match felt like it was starting to pick up for Scotty, Ric would cut him off. There were several instances where you could tell Steiner was trying to set up his trademark offense and Ric would block it or shut it down. Ric also dominated a much larger portion of this match than I think any match I've seen him in before. This may have been subconscious, because he was feeling the pressure of the office wanting his run on top to come to an end and wanting to prove them wrong. In any event, Scotty got his legs cut out from under him. It was a decent match but not great,and went to a TV time limit draw. There were very few near falls, and Steiner only managed to get one of his big moves in, which didn't even get us a 2 count as Flair rolled out to the floor immediately after taking it. End result Flair stayed on top and Scotty went back to tag team wrestling with his brother Rick. Make of that what you will.
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Post by The Dark Order Inferno on Dec 19, 2014 19:24:23 GMT -5
They're handsome, they're brave, they're strong. Hmm... But are they the Mounties? They're not the mounties, 'cos they enforce the law.
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 20, 2014 6:24:07 GMT -5
Hmm... But are they the Mounties? They're not the mounties, 'cos they enforce the law. And unlike the mounties, they always get their man!
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Futureraven: Beelzebruv
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Post by Futureraven: Beelzebruv on Dec 20, 2014 6:30:46 GMT -5
In their defense, I think the Smokin' Gunns could have been a great team had it not been for the gimmick. Smiling while shooting off the toy cap pistols made them the lamest team since ... ever. If Vince wanted a crowd-friendly cowboy team, he should have watched the Young Pistols or maybe even hired the Young Pistols. I actually love the 1993 Tag Team scene. Take away the gimmicks, the Smoking Gunns and the Headshrinkers were good teams, there was the awesomeness of the Quebecers, the Steiners, Money Inc winding down but still around. You had comedy faces in MOM, some jobber teams like Well Dunn, it was a well rounded division.
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Post by Manute Bol on Dec 20, 2014 12:41:30 GMT -5
I know it was only a one year run, but they had some really fun matches in that brief span. The Royal Rumble match against The Beverly Brothers was good, I will always argue that their match with The Head Shrinkers was the best match of WrestleMania IX, I love their SummerSlam match against The Heavenly Bodies, and they had two good Coliseum video matches: a very good Steel Cage Match against Money Inc, and an awesome match against Bret & Owen Hart. There were also some decent TV matches against The Quebecers, but those don't hold up as well for me since they were oddly booked with The Steiners selling and playing the baby faces in peril, yet still losing almost every time. January 1993-January 1994 was a great year of in-ring action from The Steiner Brothers. Steiners vs. Harts? Who won? It was a double count-out...awesome match though, definitely worth a watch.
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