Crappler El 0 M
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Post by Crappler El 0 M on Dec 21, 2014 21:06:35 GMT -5
I never saw him as a world champion-level wrestler, but ESPECIALLY during the rise of the Rock, Austin, Triple H, Kane, Big Show, and Foley. He didn't belong in that mix.
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Post by JTG Fan on Dec 21, 2014 21:18:39 GMT -5
I never saw him as a world champion-level wrestler, but ESPECIALLY during the rise of the Rock, Austin, Triple H, Kane, Big Show, and Foley. He didn't belong in that mix. That I think is the bigger issue with Austin than Jarrett's dad stiffing him on pay or, more significantly, Jarrett decrying Austin 3:16 as blasphemous in his WWF return. Austin simply didn't think Jarrett belonged in that echelon, and you can argue that it isn't his place to make that determination but Austin was looking out for himself and didn't want to stick his neck out and put over somebody who he didn't believe in.
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Post by Redbeard's Ghost on Dec 21, 2014 21:39:46 GMT -5
He was a B+ player. Jarrett was never good enough to hold the WCW title, but he was "The Chosen One".
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Post by abjordans on Dec 22, 2014 1:28:52 GMT -5
I don't agree with this at all. Double J was never presented as any kind of main event threat. My memory may not be the best, but that Austin Program that is often brought up was VERY LIGHTLY teased. He never really sniffed the main event and I never felt like he was on the rise. Jeff Jarrett never beats HHH out for top heel. Jarrett has always been HHH-lite.
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Post by Digital Witness on Dec 22, 2014 2:35:03 GMT -5
I always thought of Jarrett as a guy who at least deserved the shot to sink or swim in the main event. Worst case scenario is that he Billy Gunns it. I don't see him having the greatest of success, but I see him at least coming close. I can actually see him holding things together as an experienced veteran heat magnet when Austin and Rock leave and Michaels is still out.
One curiosity that I have is how Jarrett would be booked if he found his way into Heyman's booking plans.
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Cranjis McBasketball
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Post by Cranjis McBasketball on Dec 22, 2014 4:29:31 GMT -5
No. If you add up all the people who I've read, just on this board, "should have gotten a thank-you or a transitional run with the belt" it's pretty much everyone who ever wrestled in WWF.
Jarrett was a fine mid-card heel......and that's something that is sorely missing from WWE today.
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Post by EvenBaldobombHasAJob on Dec 22, 2014 7:21:40 GMT -5
not sure if him being champ in WWE at that time would've worked comsidering how stacked the ME scene was at the time, but he would've held is own a lot better than some other guys they tried. I always thought Double J was criminally underrated and people wouldn't rate him so poorly as a ME guy if their best memories of him in that position weren't WCW at its lowest point.
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Post by Surfer Sandman on Dec 22, 2014 7:26:09 GMT -5
The idea of Jarrett holding the WWF title is blasphemous. Thankfully, it never happened.
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Post by jamofpearls on Dec 22, 2014 10:59:04 GMT -5
Best case scenario, Jarrett's never champ. Worst case scenario, Jarrett got the belt.
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Johnny Flamingo
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Dec 22, 2014 11:52:29 GMT -5
I've never seen Jarrett as a World Champion level wrestler for a major company.
The most I ever see him is as a transitional opponent for the champion for a 1 off at a PPV before starting another angle.
With that said, I do think he is very talented and doesn't get the respect he deserves for how good he is. I definitely think he would be good enough to have your champion face off against on a PPV. Just wouldn't give him the belt.
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Post by efarns on Dec 22, 2014 14:57:34 GMT -5
If Jarrett had been mostly a WWE career guy, I think he would have had a career comparable to Christian. They're both good all around workers who just don't have that special "it" that a main eventer needs.
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Post by AtomSmasher on Dec 22, 2014 15:08:09 GMT -5
There's probably been worse wrestlers who've held the belt (or the WHC) than Jarrett to be fair. At least he seems to have a fairly good ability to draw some 'sh!tty' heel heat (even if it does feel like 'X-Pac Heat'). Which is more than The Miz ever managed.....
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Post by Ben Wyatt on Dec 22, 2014 16:02:35 GMT -5
I always thought he would have been a fine challenger on a non "big" PPV
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Post by hassanchop on Dec 23, 2014 7:33:10 GMT -5
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Post by thegame415 on Dec 23, 2014 14:34:27 GMT -5
I think Jarrett worked best as an upper mid carder, but if I had to do something, it would've been to have him and the NWA stable feud with Austin as a "traditional" vs "new school" feud.
Obviously, what they did with Austin and McMahon worked better. I'm just saying,if I had to book Jarrett.
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Post by "Evil Brood" Jackson Vanik on Dec 23, 2014 15:49:15 GMT -5
While he was certainly not on the level of Austin, Rock, or Triple H during that era, I think he could have certainly broken into the main event scene every now and again. I would have certainly given him a push over the likes of the Big Show, Bossman, Kane, etc. Jarrett could work a good match (especially with a decent worker) and could cut promos that got great heat. The best thing about him is that he could make almost anything work and a feud with any top star could have made great TV even if he ultimately did not win the title. Rock/Jarrett definitely sounds better to me than Rock/Billy or Rock/Bulldog (at least in 1999).
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Post by CATCH_US IS the Conversation on Dec 23, 2014 15:51:34 GMT -5
Jarrett as champion with a stacked roster of superior talent? Isn't that how TNA started? No. If you add up all the people who I've read, just on this board, "should have gotten a thank-you or a transitional run with the belt" it's pretty much everyone who ever wrestled in WWF. Jarrett was a fine mid-card heel......and that's something that is sorely missing from WWE today. A transitional run isn't always a bad thing. Sometimes you wanna get the belt from one guy to another without killing a guy who actually has a bigger upside. A thank you run isn't a bad thing either, except I never liked that the former World Heavyweight Championship was set aside for this particular purpose, which ironically (I hope I'm using it right) made the gesture less meaningful. Imo a "thank you" run should be for guys who had the potential to be a top guy at one point but never got that opportunity due to bad luck, politics, bad timing (I.e. someone else getting really hot), etc. That said, Jarrett isn't a guy who should've had one. While there are guys who get misused or have their potential unrealized in one company, move to another and truly break out, Jarrett wasn't one of them. When he was WCW Champion he just felt like "that WWF midcard guy that happened to have the belt".
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Post by Duke Delicious on Dec 23, 2014 16:00:08 GMT -5
I disagree with the general opinion in this thread. I wouldn't have minded seeing him as a corporate champion type.
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