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Post by Cela on Dec 27, 2014 3:33:51 GMT -5
Now that there's been a little bit of time to sink in, the time has come to ask which prequel series will be remembered the least fondly, The Hobbit or the Star Wars prequels.
For comparison, both: -Relied heavily on green screen compared to prior movie practical effects -Were helmed by onetime visionary who seemed to have lost much passion for the craft -Had winky asides to previous films (Thank you... CHEWBACCA vs. It's my son, Gimli) -Made pointy eared fan favorite into whirling dervish of death -Featured a main protagonist being tempted by the dark side -Christopher Lee
Problems with Star Wars: -Terrible explanation retcons: midichlorians. -Acting/Dialogue -Jar Jar -NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! -Possibly racist characters
Problems with The Hobbit: -Unmemorable characters (Starfish dwarf, most of the dwarves) -Stretched material -Alfrid -Unresolved story points -Woefully incompetent antagonists
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Post by Professor Chaos on Dec 27, 2014 3:42:24 GMT -5
Never saw any Hobbit movies. I'll still go to the grave saying Revenge of the Sith is the best Star Wars movie.
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Post by The Unconquered Sun on Dec 27, 2014 3:43:55 GMT -5
i really do like the hobbit series, but let's be honest, it is too bloated. 3 movies out of 1 book you can read in a day. its too much.
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Post by Jedi-El of Tomorrow on Dec 27, 2014 4:00:35 GMT -5
Pros of The Hobbit
- Smaug - Bard - Bard vs Smaug - Martin Freeman as Bilbo - Riddles in the Dark - The fight at Dol Guldor in Five Armies
Pros of Star Wars Prequels
- Darth Maul - Obi-Wan and Qui-Gon vs Darth Maul - Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan - Obi-Wan being even more badass than we thought was possible - Obi-Wan vs Anakin - The worlds were beautiful - The score - Order 66 was well done
I'd say The Hobbit was a worse prequel series.
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Post by Koda, Master Crunchyroller on Dec 27, 2014 4:00:52 GMT -5
Star Wars. Dear god Star Wars.
Bloated as the Hobbit films may be, I still enjoyed watching them, still had fun.
I can't really say the same for the Star Wars prequels. >_>
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Post by Deleted on Dec 27, 2014 5:27:30 GMT -5
Star Wars.
The Hobbit movies are just a product of bigtimer Hollywood.
The Star Wars movies are a product of Lucas not even being close to the same person that spawned the originals getting hung up on a bunch of stupid bullshit like cgi and busy backgrounds.
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Post by Evilution E5150 on Dec 27, 2014 6:22:38 GMT -5
Has Peter Jackson now changed LOTR to match up with something in the Hobbit movies? Because if he hasnt then its definitely Star Wars
i havent seen any of the hobbit movies as I saw LOTR so many times as a teenager that im completely burnt out on it
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 27, 2014 6:38:11 GMT -5
Star Wars. Those movies were George's unchecked ego put on-screen.
Peter Jackson a good job with the Hobbit movies. Yes, they were bloated, but let us not overlook that they were originally supposed to be two movies. The third was supposed to be more of a straight up prequel to the War of the Ring set during the 60 years between the end of The Hobbit and the start of Lord of the Rings.
If anything, Jackson remained too faithful to the source material. In the book the dwarves are unmemorable and poorly fleshed-out, for example. In the film at least Balin, Kili, and Bofur had some character to them.
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Post by ICBM on Dec 27, 2014 7:21:53 GMT -5
Revenge of the sith was good and don't care what anyone says about it. Clones can F the F right off Episode 1 wasn't that bad except for Jar Jar and little Anny
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Post by xCompackx on Dec 27, 2014 8:44:20 GMT -5
Star Wars Prequel hate tends to get really over-exaggerated, imo. I mean sure, there's things about them that should've been done differently (no need for the politics, Episode II having some really boring scenes), but none of the Prequels are the horrifying experience that people make them out to be.
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Post by James Fabiano on Dec 27, 2014 9:10:40 GMT -5
I only saw the first Hobbit, do the other movies fix the amping up of humor in the first one?
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Post by Zaq "That Guy" Buzzkill on Dec 27, 2014 10:58:02 GMT -5
Star Wars by a country mile. The worst thing I can say about the Hobbit films was that they tried to do to much at once, but even then I still love all three (well the second 2 anyway, first one is just OK).
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Post by Mighty Attack Tribble on Dec 27, 2014 11:00:06 GMT -5
Star Wars Prequel hate tends to get really over-exaggerated, imo. I mean sure, there's things about them that should've been done differently (no need for the politics, Episode II having some really boring scenes), but none of the Prequels are the horrifying experience that people make them out to be. Certainly not, but when you put them next to three of the most beloved movies of all time the massive drop in quality is bound to provoke stronger reactions than would have happened if the original trilogy didn't exist. I only saw the first Hobbit, do the other movies fix the amping up of humor in the first one? Yes. There's still some humour in the secon, but nothing on the same scale as the first, while the third is pretty much 99% free of humour.
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Post by Citizen Snips Has Left on Dec 27, 2014 11:06:01 GMT -5
Star Wars ranged from lousy to not bad but The Hobbit was one of the rare films where I just felt like my time was being completely wasted watching them. So I voted Hobbit.
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Post by Red Impact on Dec 27, 2014 11:18:23 GMT -5
I'm going with Hobbit, but that's more a testament to how pointless those movies are more than anything good in the Star Wars prequels.
At least it felt like the each Star Wars movie had it's own actual story.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 27, 2014 11:56:28 GMT -5
Yeah, if we bag on dwarves for being unmemorable in the movie... if I recall a couple of them might only have 1 or 2 lines total in the book. Thorin and Balin are about the one two dwarves that say anything meaningful. Some of the character development in the original book is limited to the color of their hood and what instrument they played.
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Post by Cyno on Dec 27, 2014 12:14:58 GMT -5
The Hobbit was Peter Jackson's LOTR fanfiction but they were mostly enjoyable if not bloated. Star Wars prequels are worse alone by the existence of Episode II.
Though Episode III is my favorite movie out of the two prequel trilogies being compared.
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Post by Beets by Schrute on Dec 27, 2014 12:22:51 GMT -5
I've been pretty meh on the Hobbit, but at least they're all watchable. It'll be a cold day in hell before I allow myself to endure the line "Now this is pod racing!" one more time. EDIT: Plus, the Hobbit films made this jewel possible.
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Post by EyeofTyr on Dec 27, 2014 12:23:10 GMT -5
Star Wars. And, it's not even close.
For all the woes that the Hobbit series had, the acting was never really an issue in them. Whereas in the Star Wars movies everyone was pretty much bringing their cheapest game to the party. Even actors and actresses that normally were good, or tolerable at least, outside of them were dragged down to a cringe worthy bad performance under Lucas.
That alone will always make the Star Wars prequels beneath the Hobbit movies.
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Post by Hit Girl on Dec 27, 2014 15:07:50 GMT -5
I haven't even seen the Hobbit series, but I know it cannot possibly be worse than the Star Wars prequels.
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