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Post by The Quintessential Studmuffin on Dec 29, 2014 12:38:14 GMT -5
Seriously....i'm rewatching WM 30 just for the f*** of it, and Cesaro was white hot, after the match big show shook his hand and all the signs were pointing to super over face Cesaro. Then after Cesaro is heel and with paul heyman, which is then randomly dropped and now he's in a tag team with Tyson Kidd. Wtf
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 12:48:51 GMT -5
Yeah, I was just remembering a match he had with Orton when Orton was the unified champ (I think it was either 2013 or 2012) and MAN did Cesaro pretty clearly fit into that whole world title scene. Its amazing how anyone in WWE's creative team/management couldn't see that.
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Post by A Platypus Rave on Dec 29, 2014 12:51:19 GMT -5
Their complete botching of Cesaro is one of the worst things to happen this year, and will probably be on Wrestling's list of how the hell did you f*** that up? for years.
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Post by Next Level was WRONG on Dec 29, 2014 12:57:53 GMT -5
Apparently Cesaro and Heyman came up with the idea to be paired up themselves.
Then the only logical conclusion to that was Cesaro vs Lesnar which Cesaro wasn't ready for.
And now either he's being punished for bitching on the radio or he's being set up as the new "under-appreciated" guy.
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Post by Rican on Dec 29, 2014 13:03:22 GMT -5
I can't wrap my head around how badly they messed it up. I honest to God thought Cesaro vs. Lesnar was gonna happen for the world title somewhere down the road. Maybe not at Mania, but at the Rumble or something at least. I think him and Kidd are an awesome pairing, but I wish Cesaro was above that level.
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 29, 2014 13:07:15 GMT -5
I shall restate my case: Should have been Cesaro to win the tournament and win the IC belt from Big E. But he eventually grows tired of Heyman talking up Lesnar and not him, so he dumps Heyman. Heyman calls in Lesnar to put the upstart in his place. But the problems in the world title scene would have put paid to that even without screwing up on Cesaro's push.
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Post by Saul Goodman on Dec 29, 2014 13:25:07 GMT -5
Something is just not clicking with him. Maybe he is too Swish. Even though the fans seem to love him, even though he is strong as hell, even though he never had a real chance to shine and even though he is a great wrestler.
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Post by Dave the Dave on Dec 29, 2014 13:28:16 GMT -5
He's this years f*** up. Ryback was last year. This being a theme is pathetic.
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Post by Push R Truth on Dec 29, 2014 13:29:24 GMT -5
Instead of being too Swiss, what if he's not Swiss enough?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 13:34:56 GMT -5
Yeah, I thought Heyman constantly talking up Lesnar while with Cesaro would lead to Cesaro getting fed up and demanding a match with Brock.
I should've known better.
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Post by mcstoklasa on Dec 29, 2014 13:35:20 GMT -5
It really annoys me when Vince is like "Oh he just doesnt connect with the fans" when he was all through the start of 2014. Big time. And then he was hugely over around the period of WM30 and then they f***ed him up.
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Post by Johnny Flamingo on Dec 29, 2014 13:39:50 GMT -5
The whole Cesaro didn't connect with fans is crap. I was at the Dome for Wrestlemania XXX and he got a large reaction for the tag match and the place exploded big time when he won the rumble. The fans were more than ready to accept him as a main even player. HUGE screw up by WWE on this one.
On the plus side, Cesaro is a great performer and can easily get back over with decent booking.
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Post by Chiral on Dec 29, 2014 13:40:23 GMT -5
It's one of the most depressing things I've seen on WWE, and after the Austin podcast it's hard for me to blame anyone but Vince for it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 14:22:27 GMT -5
He's going to win the Rumble and it will be the ultimate combination of unexpected and making perfect sense.
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Post by "Gentleman" AJ Powell on Dec 29, 2014 14:26:15 GMT -5
He's this years f*** up. Ryback was last year. This being a theme is pathetic. Well, he's following the Ryback route of having a besties Tag Team, so hopefully he'll be back in the ME this time next year!
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Post by Slanted and Enchanted on Dec 29, 2014 14:35:47 GMT -5
He's going to win the Rumble and it will be the ultimate combination of unexpected and making perfect sense. So....he's going to be the first guy eliminated?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 14:37:34 GMT -5
According to Vince on Austin's podcast Cesaro is missing something.
On this same podcast Vince says he knows how to make the fans happy and give them what they want.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 14:56:18 GMT -5
He didn't handle the "cool down" period well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 29, 2014 15:03:54 GMT -5
What I don't get is Vince says Cesaro is missing something, ect. yet he seemed to not have a problem pushing guys like Bobby Lashley to the moon.
Cesaro was ready (brother!) and Vince f***ed up, not Cesaro.
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Post by Sephiroth on Dec 29, 2014 15:24:34 GMT -5
The part thst annoys me still is thst putting Cesaro with Heyman could have been a good move. Heyman was fresh off the end of the Streak and had major credibility as a manager. But not ibky did Heyman spend more time talking up Lesnar, Ceasro also gooked to lose almost every match as a Heyman guy. As I said earlier, a feud with Big E for the IC belt would have been ideal. Or even have Cesaro be the one to end Ambrose's year long US title run. But having him lose every match while playing second fiddle to a guy who wasn't even on TV for months was an atrocious waste.
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